Removing MK2 Spoiler

1. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #1 7th March 2010, 22:07

   Hii guys,
   
   Basically, I want to remove my Mk2 spoiler and get a Mk1 spoiler. I know Mk2 spoilers are bolted on to the rear screen, when i remove it what could i use to fill the small holes on the rear screen? i know gromets will do the job but is there another way? And what would be the best way to fit the Mk1 spoiler? Tiger seal?
   
   Thanks!
2. Saxo-Mikey Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Aberdeenshire Posts: 372 Sunbeam Alpine, Citroen Saxo VTR BMW z4

   #2 7th March 2010, 22:09

   i say stick to the mk2 spoiler. it aint all that bad! changing to mk1 will be a lot of hastle....
   if you wanted, wouldnt it be easyer to fit a mk1 boot on it? as arent they the same shape at the back?
3. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #3 7th March 2010, 22:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo-Mikey i say stick to the mk2 spoiler. it aint all that bad! changing to mk1 will be a lot of hastle.... if you wanted, wouldnt it be easyer to fit a mk1 boot on it? as arent they the same shape at the back?

   I have always prefered the mk1 spoiler though. Yeh, could get a mk1 boot but I dont think it will be that hard to just remove the mk2 and fit a mk1 spoiler.
4. ollie-vt- Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Nottingham Posts: 341 Saxo 16v VTR

   #4 7th March 2010, 22:37

   mate i've just fitted a mk1 spoiler to my mk2 and its SO easy!
   
   use the bolts from the mk2 spoiler to cover the holes in the window and use a rubber washer on the inside to stop it leaking, no need for sealant!
   
   when fitting the mk1 spoiler, put the screws in the spoiler with a lil bit of paint on the end and line it up on your tailgate where you want it. then drill through the boot where the paint marks are, and use rubber washer on the inside again
5. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #5 7th March 2010, 22:42

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   Originally Posted by ollie-vt- mate i've just fitted a mk1 spoiler to my mk2 and its SO easy! use the bolts from the mk2 spoiler to cover the holes in the window and use a rubber washer on the inside to stop it leaking, no need for sealant! when fitting the mk1 spoiler, put the screws in the spoiler with a lil bit of paint on the end and line it up on your tailgate where you want it. then drill through the boot where the paint marks are, and use rubber washer on the inside again

   Cheers for that mate. I dont really want to be drilling holes though because if I ever want to remove it I'll be left with holes on the boot. I heard tiger seal is pretty strong and once fitted won't come off?
6. aksaxovtr Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Wickow Posts: 548 green mk1 vtr and gold mk2 vtr

   #6 7th March 2010, 22:46

   what you want is the stuff autoglass use to stick new windscreens in mate its really strong stuff
7. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #7 7th March 2010, 22:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo-Mikey i say stick to the mk2 spoiler. it aint all that bad! changing to mk1 will be a lot of hastle.... if you wanted, wouldnt it be easyer to fit a mk1 boot on it? as arent they the same shape at the back?

   the boot its exactly the same, i have a boot off a mk1 vtr with a mk1 spoiler for sale but it is in venetian red lol
8. Saxo-Mikey Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Aberdeenshire Posts: 372 Sunbeam Alpine, Citroen Saxo VTR BMW z4

   #8 7th March 2010, 22:50

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   Originally Posted by carlosfilippsen I have always prefered the mk1 spoiler though. Yeh, could get a mk1 boot but I dont think it will be that hard to just remove the mk2 and fit a mk1 spoiler.

   hmmm....not sure but its up to you mate im sure you could pick up a boot lid out a scrappy for pritty cheap but that is only if it fits (i.e. lights) but i think you will be fine. also if you get bored of the mk1 look you could just use your old boot lid and put it back to standard! the screw idea with the water tight washer isnt too bad an idea but wont you still be able to see it?
9. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #9 7th March 2010, 22:53

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   Originally Posted by jeffchiz the boot its exactly the same, i have a boot off a mk1 vtr with a mk1 spoiler for sale but it is in venetian red lol

   how much you looking for it mate?
10. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #10 7th March 2010, 22:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aksaxovtr what you want is the stuff autoglass use to stick new windscreens in mate its really strong stuff

    Do you know what the stuff is called mate?
    
    

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    Originally Posted by Saxo-Mikey hmmm....not sure but its up to you mate im sure you could pick up a boot lid out a scrappy for pritty cheap but that is only if it fits (i.e. lights) but i think you will be fine. also if you get bored of the mk1 look you could just use your old boot lid and put it back to standard! the screw idea with the water tight washer isnt too bad an idea but wont you still be able to see it?

    True mate, the only bad thing is it will cost a bit much to get a boot lid sprayed the same color as my car. I seen a icelandic grey vtr on here and he put gromets through the holes when he removed his mk2 spoiler and they are hardly noticeable i was just wondering if there was any other way to fill the holes
11. ollie-vt- Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Nottingham Posts: 341 Saxo 16v VTR

    #11 7th March 2010, 22:58

    if i was you mate i would save my money and keep your mk2 tailgate
    i read into this when i did my spoiler and a lot of people rave about tiger seal, drilling through the boot and bolting it on is probably more effective at stopping it coming off than tigerseal though tbh
12. ollie-vt- Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Nottingham Posts: 341 Saxo 16v VTR

    #12 7th March 2010, 23:00

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    Originally Posted by carlosfilippsen Do you know what the stuff is called mate? True mate, the only bad thing is it will cost a bit much to get a boot lid sprayed the same color as my car. I seen a icelandic grey vtr on here and he put gromets through the holes when he removed his mk2 spoiler and they are hardly noticeable i was just wondering if there was any other way to fill the holes

    i'll take a photo of mine tomorrow and post it here mate but yeah its barely noticeable, SAVE YOUR MONEY DONT BUY A MK1 BOOT lol!
13. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #13 7th March 2010, 23:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ollie-vt- if i was you mate i would save my money and keep your mk2 tailgate i read into this when i did my spoiler and a lot of people rave about tiger seal, drilling through the boot and bolting it on is probably more effective at stopping it coming off than tigerseal though tbh

    Yeh true, i'll look in to drilling and bolting it on
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ollie-vt- i'll take a photo of mine tomorrow and post it here mate but yeah its barely noticeable, SAVE YOUR MONEY DONT BUY A MK1 BOOT lol!

    Yeah, get a pic up please mate.
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 8th March 2010, 01:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carlosfilippsen how much you looking for it mate?

    not much mate its just sitting in my back garden not doing anything, if you collected id let it go cheapish say around £40? i paid £160 for a new rear window a few months back, then i ended up getting a smooth boot grrr wish i hadnt bought a new window now haha
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=265232
15. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #15 8th March 2010, 01:11

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    Originally Posted by jeffchiz not much mate its just sitting in my back garden not doing anything, if you collected id let it go cheapish say around £40? i paid £160 for a new rear window a few months back, then i ended up getting a smooth boot grrr wish i hadnt bought a new window now haha http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=265232

    Ah right haha, good price though mate. Whats your postcode?
16. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #16 8th March 2010, 01:18

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    Originally Posted by carlosfilippsen Ah right haha, good price though mate. Whats your postcode?

    my post code is ox3 0lt, i think im around 50 miles away from you
17. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #17 8th March 2010, 01:20

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    Originally Posted by jeffchiz my post code is ox3 0lt, i think im around 50 miles away from you

    I just looked on google maps and you're not far at all mate, an hour trip at the most i'll try get the cash this week and come get it 100% sure that this will go on a mk2 with no problem yeh?
18. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #18 8th March 2010, 01:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carlosfilippsen I just looked on google maps and you're not far at all mate, an hour trip at the most i'll try get the cash this week and come get it 100% sure that this will go on a mk2 with no problem yeh?

    yea mate no difference what so ever ill double check it tomorrow just to make sure its in tip top condition
19. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #19 8th March 2010, 01:39

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    Originally Posted by jeffchiz yea mate no difference what so ever ill double check it tomorrow just to make sure its in tip top condition

    Ok mate i aint 100% sure if i'll have it though, i will pop in to a local body shop tomorrow and ask them how much they would charge to get it sprayed silver to get a rough idea of how much cash i would need to get it done and let you know
20. user_31231 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150

    #20 8th March 2010, 10:30

    well i removed my mk2 and replaced it with a mk1 and i metal plugs off a ax to fill the holes and the same with my rear wiper u carnt c the plugs when the spoiler is fitted because covers the holes
21. user_33380 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 666 Saxo VTR MkII 2000(W) Posi Blue, VTR MK1 1998(R) P

    #21 8th March 2010, 10:36

    I've just done this to my MK2, I used the grommets from Halfords for the holes and Tiger sealed them in. My Mk1 had 2 bolts in it so I marked the tailgate(Tip to mark it if yours has the bolts in it put a DOB of grease on the end of the bolts, get a mate and lower it into position where you want it touch the metal and lift, you now have 2 perfectly marked positions of which to drill the tailgate) I then Tiger sealed around the holes fitted the spoiler and bolted it down.
    One thing I didn't count on was that one side of the MK2 wouldn't undo it kept just spinning so I had to cut through the top of it to get mole grips on the spinning bolt. Was a shame as I planned on selling the MK2 spoiler.
    Hope this helps mate I hate the Mk2 spoiler that's why I changed it.

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22. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #22 8th March 2010, 11:09

    you're all mad. i'm changing my mk1 spoiler to a mk2!!
    looks so much better in my opinion. mk1 is so chunky and horrible!
23. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #23 8th March 2010, 11:21

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    Originally Posted by Luke-saxo well i removed my mk2 and replaced it with a mk1 and i metal plugs off a ax to fill the holes and the same with my rear wiper u carnt c the plugs when the spoiler is fitted because covers the holes

    I think gromets would be better as they are hardly visible but metal plugs sound like a good idea. Thanks mate
    
    

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    Originally Posted by Rez I've just done this to my MK2, I used the grommets from Halfords for the holes and Tiger sealed them in. My Mk1 had 2 bolts in it so I marked the tailgate(Tip to mark it if yours has the bolts in it put a DOB of grease on the end of the bolts, get a mate and lower it into position where you want it touch the metal and lift, you now have 2 perfectly marked positions of which to drill the tailgate) I then Tiger sealed around the holes fitted the spoiler and bolted it down. One thing I didn't count on was that one side of the MK2 wouldn't undo it kept just spinning so I had to cut through the top of it to get mole grips on the spinning bolt. Was a shame as I planned on selling the MK2 spoiler. Hope this helps mate I hate the Mk2 spoiler that's why I changed it.

    That is some great advice mate. I think I'm going to try this and see how it goes. Thanks a lot bud
    
    

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    Originally Posted by holdawayt you're all mad. i'm changing my mk1 spoiler to a mk2!! looks so much better in my opinion. mk1 is so chunky and horrible!

    Depends how the mk1 is fitted. I want it like this:
    
    Jim-Bob's car.. Mk1 Spoiler ftw
    
    
    
    You can buy my mk2 spoiler if you want, when i remove it lol

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24. user_33701 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Aberdeenshire Posts: 1932 MK3 Dub VR6 & DUB TDI

    #24 8th March 2010, 11:30

    How much for the mk2 spoiler posted dude? give me a PM
25. Abass123 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Thamesmead , London Posts: 920 Saxo Furio

    #25 8th March 2010, 11:46

    go scrappy n get a mk1 boot with spoiler n fit that
26. user_41827 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 torquay Posts: 924 Citroen saxo MK2 VTR

    #26 8th March 2010, 11:58

    i would just leave it the spoilers are point less anyway in my eyes. but i spose everyone has there opinion
27. ollie-vt- Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Nottingham Posts: 341 Saxo 16v VTR

    #27 8th March 2010, 19:18

    heres the pics mate, you dont need to get gromets or anything just use the bolts that come with the standard spoiler on the outside, like so -
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    see, barely noticable! this is a pic from inside the boot, i just used a rubber seal washer to stop it leaking and a nut:
    
    
    
    
28. user_12308 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 The Lang Toun Posts: 4133 Mk2 Clio V6 #007 of 354

    #28 8th March 2010, 19:23

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    Originally Posted by carlosfilippsen Hii guys, Basically, I want to remove my Mk2 spoiler and get a Mk1 spoiler. I know Mk2 spoilers are bolted on to the rear screen, when i remove it what could i use to fill the small holes on the rear screen? i know gromets will do the job but is there another way? And what would be the best way to fit the Mk1 spoiler? Tiger seal? Thanks!

    i'm going to be doing this but will be replacing the rear screen as grommits in the glass will look a bit imo
29. ollie-vt- Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Nottingham Posts: 341 Saxo 16v VTR

    #29 8th March 2010, 19:29

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    Originally Posted by mtpagey i'm going to be doing this but will be replacing the rear screen as grommits in the glass will look a bit imo

    such a waste of money, look at the 3rd pic down in my last post - you cant even see the bolt when your stood anything more than a metre away, and anything closer and you'd only spot it if you were lookin for it
30. user_33563 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Eyemouth Posts: 1094 amazon green vts :)

    #30 8th March 2010, 19:39

    what size are the gromets from halfrauds?
31. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #31 8th March 2010, 23:03

    Thanks a lot for the replies guys! and cheers for the pics ollie-vt- I'm going to do what Rez did and see how it turns out
32. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #32 8th March 2010, 23:12

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    Originally Posted by jamieross what size are the gromets from halfrauds?

    you just buy a pack mate, comes with all different sizes, cost something like £1.49 from halfrauds

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33. user_33563 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Eyemouth Posts: 1094 amazon green vts :)

    #33 8th March 2010, 23:15

    good shout mate, cheers
34. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

    #34 8th March 2010, 23:17

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    Originally Posted by jamieross good shout mate, cheers

    No problem mate
35. user_12308 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 The Lang Toun Posts: 4133 Mk2 Clio V6 #007 of 354

    #35 8th March 2010, 23:33

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    Originally Posted by ollie-vt- such a waste of money, look at the 3rd pic down in my last post - you cant even see the bolt when your stood anything more than a metre away, and anything closer and you'd only spot it if you were lookin for it

    perfection my good friend