Extinguisher nozzle debate

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #1
    Im debating as to where to mount my extinguisher nozzles. i have 2 and it suggests mounting one in the cockpit for the driver and one in the engine bay. now the thing is im not gonna do any msa or fia racing, just track days (often with passengers). So should i mount both inside so the passenger isn't burned alive or stick with the regs?
    cheers
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #2
    And if something did happen with a passenger on board i don't think i could live knowing that i saved myself and my engine, not them
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5
    #3
    It's highly unlikely you're going to need to use it, even more so if you're only doing trackdays. Not to mention that you'd then both need to be stuck, as well. So just have it above the driver and passenger somewhere in the middle.
  4. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #4
    would it be better to wear some sort or race-suit that is fire retardant etc. to help you and your passenger out should it catch on fire? and then put one nozzle in the engine bay, and one centrally in the cockpit ?

    Or is it for the 'track' look ?
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #5
    No i'm not just doing the whole track look thing, i am gonna be using it quite fequently. (the car not the extinguisher may i add lol) it's just that i have seen many track cars get side impacts and rupturing fuel tanks, scares the shit out of me. your supposed to aim them at the knees, and its a 90 angle spray so i might be able to get away with putting it in the middle i guess.
  6. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR View Post
    No i'm not just doing the whole track look thing, i am gonna be using it quite fequently. (the car not the extinguisher may i add lol) it's just that i have seen many track cars get side impacts and rupturing fuel tanks, scares the shit out of me. your supposed to aim them at the knees, and its a 90 angle spray so i might be able to get away with putting it in the middle i guess.
    I'm no expert on the matter, but this is my opinion.

    If you were in a crash (side impact on the passenger side) - you could potentially rupture a fuel line anywhere from the fuel tank into the engine bay, so you do have a large area that could potentially be ignited

    Can't you add another nozzle ? It depends on how much you value your engine, as could just have both in the car aiming at you and your passenger - if the engine catches fire you should have a bit of time to get out IMO.

    Also, might not be worth having it aiming at you incase it goes off whilst driving ?!
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #7
    Yeah lifeline say it has to point at the footwell, and there not a lot of danger of it going of it has a retaining clip, you have to pull the T quite hard. and about the nozzles, you cant use any more, if you do the pressure will be twice as low and the foam will come out really thick. and i only have a pretty standard 1.4 so nothing too pricey lol.
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #8
    i think i'll just have one for both occupants
  9. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR View Post
    Yeah lifeline say it has to point at the footwell, and there not a lot of danger of it going of it has a retaining clip, you have to pull the T quite hard. and about the nozzles, you cant use any more, if you do the pressure will be twice as low and the foam will come out really thick. and i only have a pretty standard 1.4 so nothing too pricey lol.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR View Post
    i think i'll just have one for both occupants
    If it's just a 1.4 I wouldn't be too worried tbh about the engine - they can be replace pretty easily!
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #10
    easier to replace an engine than a friends legs lol
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5
    #11
    You say it won't go off randomly, I presume you've not seen this...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySQxH5tVHBY


    And I understand your concern, but on a trackday, it's highly, highly, highly unlikely you're going to make contact with any other car, and on the rare possibility that you do, it's again, unlikely that it's going to be enough to cause a fire. As said, I understand your concern with it happening, but you'd probably be better be mounting it in a similar position to where it is in the BTCC car in the vid (top, middle of the cabin). Or ditching the Lifeline system and just getting a normal Fire Extinguisher mounted somewhere that you can easily reach.
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #12
    The btcc ones are electrical. so that was probably an electrical fault. They no other way of setting mechanical ones off other than pulling the cable. I think i'm just gonna put a nozzle for each occupant. easier than spraying randomly with a handheld