the difference between vtr inlet and rallye one

1. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

   #1 8th March 2010, 18:28

   
   
   
   surely it can only be a good thing as its huge but very light too
2. ReadieeVTS Established Member Joined: May 2009 milton keynes Posts: 1084 saxo Mk1 westie VTS saxo mk2 VTR S1 106 16v

   #2 8th March 2010, 18:38

   have you fitted it to your car mate?
3. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

   #3 8th March 2010, 19:28

   not yet but tomorrow as alot of fiddling and making sure things are spot on before fitting and im waiting for gaskets and throttle cable to turn up
4. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #4 8th March 2010, 19:30

   will with stand a higher lift cam ph4.
   
   hopefully youll get it going mate, these can be right gypos to set up.
5. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

   #5 8th March 2010, 20:18

   im using an enlarged vtr throttle boddie so i keep all standard sensors so hopefully wont have many probs
   
   
   
   
   see fits perfect
6. ReadieeVTS Established Member Joined: May 2009 milton keynes Posts: 1084 saxo Mk1 westie VTS saxo mk2 VTR S1 106 16v

   #6 9th March 2010, 00:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dorsetsaxo im using an enlarged vtr throttle boddie so i keep all standard sensors so hopefully wont have many probs see fits perfect

   mate what do you mean by enlarged VTR throttle bodie? and how did you get it to fit im waiting for mine to be delivered then i will be putting mine on cheers Lee
7. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #7 9th March 2010, 00:12

   intresting....
   
   i was trying to bolt a vts body one, didnt even think about the R one.
   
   although it is smaller though.
8. ReadieeVTS Established Member Joined: May 2009 milton keynes Posts: 1084 saxo Mk1 westie VTS saxo mk2 VTR S1 106 16v

   #8 9th March 2010, 00:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by frankie intresting.... i was trying to bolt a vts body one, didnt even think about the R one. although it is smaller though.

   what 1 was smaller mate? the vtr or vts 1? what actually causes the problem to make these run spot on is it the throttle body?
9. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #9 9th March 2010, 00:20

   the vtr one is smaller.
   
   the ICV causes the problems.
10. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

    #10 9th March 2010, 00:24

    You sure that's a vtr tb though?
    Cause it looks like a 16v one to me
    Cause the icv is positioned diff on vtr tb and so is the bit where the throttle cable goes onto
    and also it looked like it had that groove thing that fed air to icv but it's been cut off and smoothed
    
    unless I'm having a real special moment lols
11. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

    #11 9th March 2010, 00:31

    it aint a 16v one chris.
    
    ive tried fitting that and i didnt work.
12. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #12 9th March 2010, 07:40

    nope definaterly my vtr one thats on my car now and had it enlarged a while ago through a mate of mine and and enlarged butterfly, this is off an early silvertop engine theyre much more simple so i dont have to worry about it not idling etc as it runs fine now on standard inlet and i.ll be keeping all the sensors origonal to vtr inlet gonna fit it today so i'll let ya all know later this evening fingers crossed
13. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #13 9th March 2010, 22:28

    all fitted and runs spot on pulls a lot harder right through rev range will get pics up tomorrow but very pleased brilliant mod
14. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

    #14 9th March 2010, 22:51

    how did you plumb the ICV?
15. ReadieeVTS Established Member Joined: May 2009 milton keynes Posts: 1084 saxo Mk1 westie VTS saxo mk2 VTR S1 106 16v

    #15 9th March 2010, 23:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorsetsaxo all fitted and runs spot on pulls a lot harder right through rev range will get pics up tomorrow but very pleased brilliant mod

    so how did you get the throttle body enlarged mate? do you think it will run if if use my vtr 1? as it is now but put it on the rallye inlet? Cheers Lee
16. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #16 9th March 2010, 23:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorsetsaxo all fitted and runs spot on pulls a lot harder right through rev range will get pics up tomorrow but very pleased brilliant mod

    Get in on the central south rolling road day see what sort of figures the engine puts out now!
17. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #17 10th March 2010, 07:37

    would love to will have a search later to find it
    
    a standard vtr one will work you just have to drill 3 holes in right place like i did in top pic
18. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #18 10th March 2010, 07:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankie how did you plumb the ICV?

    
    
    drilled big enough hole into the end of in let and it had its own seal which worked perfect tried to pics up but photobucket is down at moment will try later
19. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #19 10th March 2010, 08:23

    Sounds like a great solution to fitting the rallye inlet!!
    
    Saves all the messing about with wires etc!!
20. ReadieeVTS Established Member Joined: May 2009 milton keynes Posts: 1084 saxo Mk1 westie VTS saxo mk2 VTR S1 106 16v

    #20 10th March 2010, 10:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorsetsaxo drilled big enough hole into the end of in let and it had its own seal which worked perfect tried to pics up but photobucket is down at moment will try later

    top man, so you dont think id have to get it inlarged any1? cheers Lee
21. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #21 10th March 2010, 10:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxovtr18 top man, so you dont think id have to get it inlarged any1? cheers Lee

    Well measure the hole in the inlet, and the hole in the TB, and then match the two by enlarging the inlet hole so that the transition from TB to Inlet is seamless
22. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #22 10th March 2010, 19:16

    theres about 4mm difference, the vtr slightly smaller but should work fine hears the bits ive modded and this was fitted to a silvertop 90bhp
    
    first the injection wiring runs down between the middle legs of the inlet and you need to drill a hole big enought for the plug to fit down through
    
    
    
    not pretty but its not seen when on but needs to be an inch square as its a big ass plug
    
    next map sensor but straight forward
    
    
    this will get cleaned up as just wanted it to seal and run
    
    next icv i drew round it as didnt have drill big enough bit drilled lots of small holes the filed it till smooth then drilled and tapped screw holes, the icv has its own seals and as lond as you dont drill to big a hole its seals on the rubber o ring
    
    
    
    
    next throttle body, redrill holes to match inlet see pic, and all the wires will reach no probs and it uses all your own sensors, you will need diesel throttle cable but if you order it throught a motor factors its one you can cut to any length and they give you all bits
    
    
    and youll have to make up your own throttle cable braket mines a bit of a bodge but did work well at moment, as the throttle boddy is on angle it makes life a bit more difficult
    
    and voila
    
    
    
    
    it idles perfect and makes the most amazing roar ever id do it over and over just for noise and its made quite a differnce all round to mine very happy for easy mod that start to finish cost me about 75quid
    
    inlet was £65 on ebay
    s reg diesel throttle cable 11quid
    rallye in let gaskets £2.50
    sealent etc £5
    
    
    hope this helps and is alot easier than fitting rally throttle boddie and cutting wires whole job took 4 hours
23. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #23 10th March 2010, 19:25

    Good to see someone using a bit of common sense !!
    
    Great mod !!
    
    Hopefully here this at some point !!http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=294797
24. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #24 10th March 2010, 21:08

    cool beans my name is down, if im running standard new car power id be very happy