266mm Brakes

1. Rushton88 Newbie Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9

   #1 12th March 2010, 01:47

   what cars/models have the 266mm brakes
   
   306td? ive seen berlingo mentioned a few times.
   what other models?
   
   i intend on retaining the original 14" vtr alloys
   
   thanks
2. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #2 12th March 2010, 02:16

   206 gti have them
3. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #3 12th March 2010, 18:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeffchiz 206 gti have them

   be careful with them as the gti180
   had 287mm
   ill have a set of 266mm 306 s16 available at the end of the month
4. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #4 12th March 2010, 19:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by swampy be careful with them as the gti180 had 287mm ill have a set of 266mm 306 s16 available at the end of the month

   i might be interested in them mate if he doesnt want them
5. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #5 12th March 2010, 19:53

   I got mine off a xsara hdi
6. baker556 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax

   #6 12th March 2010, 20:09

   berlingo van !
7. KrisB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Dorking,Surrey,M25 J9 Posts: 2616 Static -80mm Peugeot 405

   #7 12th March 2010, 20:29

   Berlingo and xsara as mentioned above.
   
   306 - 1.8's, all xsi's, hdi's, late dturbo's with abs.
   
   bigger brakes,
   
   306gti6 - 283mm
   
   307 hdi (i think) -302mm
8. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

   #8 13th March 2010, 00:49

   looking for a brake conversion for my vtr with standard alloys what is the biggest i can go and which callipers and carriers any info will be a help
9. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #9 13th March 2010, 07:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by steve17 looking for a brake conversion for my vtr with standard alloys what is the biggest i can go and which callipers and carriers any info will be a help

   266mm
10. planetrover Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 leicester Posts: 390 saxo furio vtr lookalike

    #10 13th March 2010, 08:50

    peugeot 1007 also have 266mm set up with bosch calipers
11. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #11 13th March 2010, 22:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KrisB 307 hdi (i think) -302mm

    1.4 HDi = 266mm
    
    1.6, 2.0 = 283mm
12. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #12 13th March 2010, 22:27

    do all the berlingo models have the same 266 setup?
13. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #13 13th March 2010, 23:04

    mikol is the 266 on pug 307 1.4 hdi u mean ?
    
    ecott what setup have u got on urs ie callipers what year and carriers did u have to use diff flexi hoses thanks
14. planetrover Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 leicester Posts: 390 saxo furio vtr lookalike

    #14 14th March 2010, 07:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR do all the berlingo models have the same 266 setup?

    you need 2001 onwards with bosch calipers not the lucas ones
15. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #15 14th March 2010, 10:10

    planetrover ive got an r reg vtr will the 2001 berlingo 1.9 d callipers fit it or have got to get diff carriers
16. stevie_m Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Glasgow Posts: 4772 Mk2 VTR Two Tone, Mazda 3 Sport

    #16 14th March 2010, 10:27

    I'm looking at the 266mm set up from a 307 1.4
17. planetrover Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 leicester Posts: 390 saxo furio vtr lookalike

    #17 14th March 2010, 10:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steve17 planetrover ive got an r reg vtr will the 2001 berlingo 1.9 d callipers fit it or have got to get diff carriers

    yep so long as there bosch not lucas there a straight swap mate 10 min job each side to change
18. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #18 14th March 2010, 11:05

    ok cheers mate get sum new 1s and have powdercoated lol
19. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #19 14th March 2010, 11:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR do all the berlingo models have the same 266 setup?

    No
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by planetrover you need 2001 onwards with bosch calipers not the lucas ones

    What he said. Some pre-2001 have 266mm dics but they're solid instead of vented. The higher-end models (1.9D etc) have 266mm vented brakes on a Lucas caliper though.
    
    Post 2002 I think almost all of them were 266mm vented BOSCH jobbies.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steve17 mikol is the 266 on pug 307 1.4 hdi u mean ? ecott what setup have u got on urs ie callipers what year and carriers did u have to use diff flexi hoses thanks

    Yup
20. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #20 14th March 2010, 11:52

    I can supply flexi hoses to suit any of the calipers
21. planetrover Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 leicester Posts: 390 saxo furio vtr lookalike

    #21 14th March 2010, 15:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swampy I can supply flexi hoses to suit any of the calipers

    why the original ones on the saxo fit ?
22. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #22 16th March 2010, 08:07

    planet rover what is ur set up i went to buy discs pads and callipers today for a 01 berlingo 1.9 d in bosch and he sed there diff offsets do u have anypart numbers plz
23. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #23 16th March 2010, 08:36

    You want the 34mm overall height ones, provided your bosch calipers have the square ended pads
    
    If the pads have circular ends, you want the 27mm height ones
24. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #24 16th March 2010, 08:45

    use my old carriers cant i then see wt pads r in them
25. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #25 16th March 2010, 09:34

    Standerd lines will fit
    but
    they have a tendancy to pull tight on full lock or suspension travel.
    This can cause the hose to fail and is also an mot failure.
    So its down to the individual.
    Swapping calipers to improve the brakes is also a good chance to get rid of the rubber lines that expand under pressure for braided lines that transfer all the pressure to the caliper.
    Particuly when i can supply the braided lines for not alot more than you can get rubber önes for
26. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #26 16th March 2010, 10:22

    Swampy are the ones you supply for 266mm conversions longer then? As mine do stretch slightly on full lock...
    
    And steve I can't make sense of your post...
27. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #27 16th March 2010, 10:40

    Mikol yes they are chap not by a vast amount but by enough that they allow some slack
28. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #28 16th March 2010, 10:43

    Ah awesome - I think we may have had this conversation a few months back
    
    You'll be seeing some money off me then once I shift my old ones and slap on the 266's.
29. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #29 16th March 2010, 10:51

    Yeah we did chap.
    Not a problem can do them any time.
30. PUG1OFF Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2009 chorley lancashire pr7 Posts: 401 106 s2 gti turbo,46k quicky,caddy van vr6, and a w

    #30 16th March 2010, 19:08

    i have two sets of 266mm for sale £80 per set plus postage
31. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #31 16th March 2010, 19:13

    my local parts supplier are sayin there aff diffferent offsets for the discs and they have got bosch callipers and pads but only do lucas discs has anyone got and info so i get right parts thanks
32. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #32 16th March 2010, 19:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mikol You want the 34mm overall height ones, provided your bosch calipers have the square ended pads If the pads have circular ends, you want the 27mm height ones

    Read my reply above dude, what more info do you need?
33. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #33 17th March 2010, 08:21

    ive gave them all the info u have given me mate they just thick i think lol they sed the only discs they do are lucas where all the other parts are bosch is that ok ? which pug 405 wud i get these all off cuz there loads goin around by me
34. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #34 17th March 2010, 08:49

    The 27mm overall height ones are for the Lucas calipers (or very early BOSCH ones)
    
    The 34mm ones are the ones that suit most BOSCH calipers and are indeed at a different offset.
    
    Best bet is probably to grab some online. Ebay is your friend.
35. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #35 17th March 2010, 19:22

    ok mate what u running on urs cuz im getting it all brand new ta
36. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #36 17th March 2010, 22:03

    I will be running BOSCH 266mm calipers, square ended mintex pads with matching 34mm height mintex discs.
    
    But being 3 stud I need some custom spacers and adapters first, else I'd have had it done ages ago...
37. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #37 17th March 2010, 23:55

    do original carriers fit
38. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #38 18th March 2010, 01:42

    No. They are very very different
39. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

    #39 18th March 2010, 01:48

    ive found that mine catch the wheel weights
40. steve17 Newbie Joined: Feb 2008 redditch Posts: 16 mk 1 saxo vtr

    #40 18th March 2010, 08:26

    mikol if i get a 405 set up i need 405 carriers dont i then
41. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #41 18th March 2010, 12:45

    Genrally yes but I have no experience with 405's, nor any clue why you'd want brakes from a 15 year old car tbh.
    
    I'd find some newer ones with less miles on them