GTi-6 calipers....are these they?

1. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

   #1 12th March 2010, 20:20

   Bought these Girling/Lucas GTi-6 calipers off the bay of E the other day. Went to get some pads from work as I work at a factors and the pads fitted to it currently are XSi ones, for 266mm discs, so now I'm a bit concerned these aren't the 283 GTi-6 brakes.
   
   But...to confuse it more, from the diagrams I've got in my Bendix catalogue, it looks like the Girling calipers will accept either pad (GTi-6, or XSi/ZX diesel/Berlingo/whatever it's fitted to) as they're the same length, have the same fittings and are the same design really. Only difference is the height.
   
   So what I'm trying to work out, is do I have GTi-6 calipers that someone has fitted incorrect pads to at some point, or have I been mis-sold XSi calipers as GTi-6 ones.
   
   Heres the calipers:
   
   
   
   
   
   Major thanks to anyone who can shed some light.
   
   Cheers
2. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #2 12th March 2010, 20:23

   Are they really heavy?
   They look pretty rotten in all honesty matey
3. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

   #3 12th March 2010, 20:23

   They do look like the calipers on my Rallye.
   
   
   Rallye:
   
   
4. KrisB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Dorking,Surrey,M25 J9 Posts: 2616 Static -80mm Peugeot 405

   #4 12th March 2010, 20:24

   they're 266's im afraid.
   
   Do them pistons even move?
5. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #5 12th March 2010, 20:25

   I've got the rare kind of gti-6 calipers
   
   
   And they look fuck all like them!
   
   What's the diameter on the piston? Not sure if it alters between the xsi and gti-6 though. GTI-6 is 57mm iirc?
6. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #6 12th March 2010, 20:26

   Either way, if you do use them, get em rebuilt cos they don't look like they will stop much
7. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #7 12th March 2010, 20:31

   Best place for them is the scrap bin
8. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

   #8 12th March 2010, 20:31

   They look rough, but everything moves freely on them. I paid very little for them, but if they're not 283mm then I paid too much for 266mm IMO.
9. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

   #9 12th March 2010, 20:33

   Hmmm, look the same as these bad boys:
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/peugeot-306-gt...item2eaba6450c
10. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #10 12th March 2010, 20:34

    Quote:

    Hmmm, look the same as these bad boys:

    As I already said they also look the same as mine.
11. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #11 12th March 2010, 20:36

    pic of the pad that is currently fitted in it would help
12. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

    #12 12th March 2010, 20:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by makaveli144 As I already said they also look the same as mine.

    Sorry mate, I thought yours looked like the 266mm in that pic.
13. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #13 12th March 2010, 20:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Icey_Furio Sorry mate, I thought yours looked like the 266mm in that pic.

    His are under 16" and on a 306 rallye (gti6)
14. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #14 12th March 2010, 20:39

    Quote:

    Sorry mate, I thought yours looked like the 266mm in that pic.

    Lol that would be good as its a 306 Rallye which is a lightweight GTI-6 so has the 283mm brakes as standard.
15. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

    #15 12th March 2010, 20:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by makaveli144 Lol that would be good as its a 306 Rallye which is a lightweight GTI-6 so has the 283mm brakes as standard.

    Ahhh.....16's!! Sorry mate, assumed 15's! Cheers
16. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #16 13th March 2010, 21:40

    if the pistons and sliders move then they wont not work cos there not painted red lol
    
    love it that there is prob nothing wrong with them but people say there crap
17. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #17 13th March 2010, 22:10

    Look at the top of the caliper.
    
    If it has '57' printed near the rear (above the bleed screw/brake hose) they're definitely GTi-6.
    
    I'm gonna say 283mm, the pad fixings are identical between a lot of 283mm/266mm variants, so that doesn't say too much about them.
    
    That does look like a 283mm carrier though. IIRC if it has Lucas printed on it it's usually a sign it's 283mm. The carrier is what makes the biggest difference here.

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18. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

    #18 13th March 2010, 22:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tweeqd if the pistons and sliders move then they wont not work cos there not painted red lol love it that there is prob nothing wrong with them but people say there crap

    A man of your caliber must own an AX surely?
19. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

    #19 13th March 2010, 22:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mikol Look at the top of the caliper. If it has '57' printed near the rear (above the bleed screw/brake hose) they're definitely GTi-6. I'm gonna say 283mm, the pad fixings are identical between a lot of 283mm/266mm variants, so that doesn't say too much about them. That does look like a 283mm carrier though. IIRC if it has Lucas printed on it it's usually a sign it's 283mm. The carrier is what makes the biggest difference here.

    You might have just made my night....they do have 57 printed on the top! And have Lucas and a number begining with 5 printed on the face of the caliper. They do seem pretty heavy. I'm thinking fuck it, I'll just order some 283mm discs and take the chance! Cheers bud!
20. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #20 13th March 2010, 23:30

    if you fancy a run up to mine before you order the disc you can try them on mine as i have 283's
21. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

    #21 14th March 2010, 09:26

    Cheers for the offer mate. I've ordered some now so fingers crossed I'll get a result