vts

14th March 2010, 20:50

Hey, Im jusy wondering does any1 think having a vts as a first car is a bad idea?
Thanks

14th March 2010, 20:53

It's not a 'bad' idea; just depends on whether you can insure it.

14th March 2010, 20:55

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Originally Posted by woodysquiksilver

It's not a 'bad' idea; just depends on whether you can insure it.

you dont stand a chance imo.

14th March 2010, 20:56

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Originally Posted by brogan5050

you dont stand a chance imo.

That's what I was thinking, but wrote it in a softer way!

14th March 2010, 20:59

go for it, why not

14th March 2010, 21:05

A VTS as a first car is a fair jump if you've just passed your test. First of all as said above, insurance. Insuring a Corsa 1.4 Sport for example will easily cost you 2k+, and they are only insurance group 9. A VTS is Insurance group 14, so they'll be a sigificant difference.

In my opinion, your first car should be the cheapest thing you can your hands on. That way, it can be bumped and scraped and you don't car less. So long as you don't driving a basic car like a track car you should be ok.

Its like being a baby, you have to learn to crawl before you can walk.

14th March 2010, 21:05

Well its nt really a vts, iv got a vts engine and im thinking of putting it in to my 1.1 ax shell,

14th March 2010, 21:08

And you've just passed your test?

14th March 2010, 21:11

yeah, do you think its a bit much?

14th March 2010, 21:36

I would recommend waiting before taking on something like that, all it takes is one misjudged corner at stupid speeds and your history.

Get Corsa Sxi or something and lower it and exhaust it. Build your way up like most of us have.

I know sounds like the wise Father talk, but you really don't learn to drive until after you've passed your test.

14th March 2010, 21:38

ive got a 1.4 for my first car and thats cost me £2k insurance.

but its more than quick enough for what i need.

at the end of the day it doesnt matter how fast your car is becuase you've got to stick to the speed limit anyway.

14th March 2010, 21:43

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Originally Posted by kyleax1

Well its nt really a vts, iv got a vts engine and im thinking of putting it in to my 1.1 ax shell,

do it!

15th March 2010, 02:40

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Originally Posted by nichollsvts

A VTS as a first car is a fair jump if you've just passed your test. First of all as said above, insurance. Insuring a Corsa 1.4 Sport for example will easily cost you 2k+, and they are only insurance group 9. A VTS is Insurance group 14, so they'll be a sigificant difference.

Im 19 passed in sept 2008 and have 1 years NCB, no accidents, no points and to insure a VTS is around 4k+

15th March 2010, 08:00

no, you'll learn to respect the speed.
you have a 1.1 you'll rag it everywhere because its slow.
a mate (tweedie on here) has a vtr that was his first car, not so much as scratched it in 2 years.

15th March 2010, 08:03

As above a 1.4 Saxo is a good call, got the VT kit and is still fairly nippy, also it won't be anywhere near as bad as a VTS to insure

15th March 2010, 09:20

do it!!! i had one as a second car cost about a grand with admiral to insure after 6-8 months of passing my test , not really worth the extra money because i prefer the vtr , hope this helps

15th March 2010, 09:27

if you can afford the insurance do it

15th March 2010, 11:42

my first car is a vts just got it last december even though im near 30 and just passed my test i was getting quotes around £1600 eventualy i phoned elephant and haggled a bit told a few white lies and my insurance is now £860 tpft and that includes a blah blah blah what ever they call it where i get a year no claims in 10 months hehe and the vts is a flippin nippy car!

15th March 2010, 13:18

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Originally Posted by brogan5050

ive got a 1.4 for my first car and thats cost me £2k insurance.

but its more than quick enough for what i need.

at the end of the day it doesnt matter how fast your car is becuase you've got to stick to the speed limit anyway.

Once you have been driving a few years read that last bit back to yourself

15th March 2010, 14:19

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Originally Posted by lukee_VTR

Once you have been driving a few years read that last bit back to yourself

Fantastic!

15th March 2010, 15:56

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Originally Posted by nichollsvts

Fantastic!

hehe

15th March 2010, 19:48

i am getting a vts im 18 and that is gonna cost 4150

16th March 2010, 22:57

Thanks for all the replys, Il need to think about it yet, lol

16th March 2010, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Saxguy

i am getting a vts im 18 and that is gonna cost 4150

that is fucking crazy, ive decided against cars because of insurance quotes a quarter of that

16th March 2010, 23:39

allot of people won't recommend it, but there's no difference from anything else on the road if you drive right

17th March 2010, 00:29

If you want the speed of a vts, get another car with 120 odd break.

The seat ibizas diesels etc are easily 100 then a remap etc is 110+ and they are the same insurance group as a furio (5)

Basicly, as soon as you put in saxo on the insurance quote, alarms ring.

And the stereotyping starts.

"Its a tin can where if you reverse into a bench its a fatal write off and the driver will have 20 boys in the back with music loud and modified etc etc"

Im going to be paying 2k for my vts after 1 years driving.

Good times

17th March 2010, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Saxguy

i am getting a vts im 18 and that is gonna cost 4150

FLOL.

Personally, i think the £450 a pay to insure my vts is too much. F*ck paying 10 x that lol.

17th March 2010, 09:52

i was made to have a standard 1.1 for my first car and had to keep for a year.

have to repect the road and speed,

also as you are planning a vts engine in a ax! that worst than a standard vts to insure!

bet most insurance company will not even insure you with that!

i would keep it a 1,1 for a year or so and save the money!

andy

17th March 2010, 10:03

You'll struggle to insure an AX VTS conversion at anywhere near a reasonable price. I can insure a VTS for £290 a year FC which is only £1 more expensive than I can insure a VTR. But as soon as I said I was insuring a VTS conversion people wanted £550 to insure what is basically the same car. I paid less than that to insure my TVR when I was 22! I managed to get it down to £390 with Adrian Flux by telling them that I drive a 2.5ltr V6 Mondeo as my daily driver and have a TVR as my weekend toy so I should be ok with a VTS conversion in my VTR

17th March 2010, 13:56

Just respect it mate, dont drive it like a nob and you will be ok. I always thought it was a waste of money and didnt really understand people buying a 1.1 etc and making it into a VTR/VTS, as in the long run it only costs more that actually buying a VTS, plus you have to declare these to your insurance which increases the premium again. Each to there own and that like.

But yes, if you respect it you will be ok. But they are nippy little things so if you do go for the VTS be careful and get used to it PROPERLY before giving it 'the bifters'
:-)

17th March 2010, 13:59

Also wouldnt you go for the VTS? only IG 7, plus still got some grunt, especially for a 1st car.

17th March 2010, 14:02

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Originally Posted by akuakabucy

Also wouldnt you go for the VTS? only IG 7, plus still got some grunt, especially for a 1st car.

It's insurance group 14? The VTR is 7

17th March 2010, 14:04

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Originally Posted by akuakabucy

Also wouldnt you go for the VTS? only IG 7, plus still got some grunt, especially for a 1st car.

Meant VTR, sorry.

19th March 2010, 02:04

lads im 18.. off my Rplates in may... just bought a vts today..under my mums name its costing me £1200 to insure! i think thats pretty dam good!

19th March 2010, 02:28

saxguy- your a tool if you gonna pay over £4k to insure a saxo! its the principle of it! really want to give an insurance company that much money to insure a 10 year old hatchback? u must have something to prove to someone to be paying that much!

and yea an ax with a vts conversion for a first car is one of the most stupid ideas ive ever heard of! the insurance is going to be through the roof thats if u actually tell the insurance company, Ive been driving over two years and so many company's wouldn't even insure me on a standard vts until i was 21, they would laugh me off the phone if i told them about an engine conversion , i had a 1.3 fiesta for my first car £1500 to insure, then a 1.4 astra then i went for a 1.6 xr2i fiesta then my vtr then had the 16v conversion and like i said ive only just got the power of a 16v over two years after passing
... in other words just get a 1.4 furio will be so dangerous for you to have 120 bhp

19th March 2010, 07:36

Its all down to can you insure it? My first car was a clio williams look alike still a 2litre 16v cost me £3 a YEAR more than the car was worth. So I then after a year I sold up and went to a 1.2 punto insurance was still 2k for a year, so after one YEAR I was thinking 1k different between a 2litre and a 1.2 so I decided on a vts, if you passed your tested then your safe enough to be on the road so a vts is ok for a first car.. Just dont be stupid as your still learning..

19th March 2010, 07:49

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

saxguy- your a tool if you gonna pay over £4k to insure a saxo! its the principle of it! really want to give an insurance company that much money to insure a 10 year old hatchback? u must have something to prove to someone to be paying that much!

and yea an ax with a vts conversion for a first car is one of the most stupid ideas ive ever heard of! the insurance is going to be through the roof thats if u actually tell the insurance company, Ive been driving over two years and so many company's wouldn't even insure me on a standard vts until i was 21, they would laugh me off the phone if i told them about an engine conversion , i had a 1.3 fiesta for my first car £1500 to insure, then a 1.4 astra then i went for a 1.6 xr2i fiesta then my vtr then had the 16v conversion and like i said ive only just got the power of a 16v over two years after passing
... in other words just get a 1.4 furio will be so dangerous for you to have 120 bhp

i have found away round it tho me and my bro have started our own garage and the buisness insurance will cover me to drive any car i own and customers cars

19th March 2010, 15:29

i was gonna say it will be around 4k would have loved one for a first car, quite glad i didnt though as i did write my first car off. luckily was only a shitty little fiesta

19th March 2010, 15:33

my second car was a VTS and i was 17 it cost me 2750 a year to insure it.