Apex lowering kit (40mm)

1. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

   #1 15th March 2010, 15:51

   hi guys, just about to guy an apex lowering kit off ebay!!
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Saxo-lowering-...item35a7dcb803
   
   before i go ahead and buy them, are these any good plus how much do u think they should cost??
   
   
   and anyone got any fitting guides on here!!
   im new so having trouble looking around for any!!
   
   
   cheers!!
2. lukee_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 462

   #2 15th March 2010, 15:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver hi guys, just about to guy an apex lowering kit off ebay!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Saxo-lowering-...item35a7dcb803 before i go ahead and buy them, are these any good plus how much do u think they should cost?? and anyone got any fitting guides on here!! im new so having trouble looking around for any!! cheers!!

   Its up to you, but i would invest some more money to get a new kit, rather than trusting the guy has only driven the springs for 1000 miles, they look pretty used :o
3. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

   #3 15th March 2010, 16:01

   tbh dont really have alot of money, so was thinkin they still look alright, abit used but not fucked, will go collect anyway so will have a look in person, any chance of a fitting quide anyone??
4. lukee_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 462

   #4 15th March 2010, 16:04

   you need spring compressors for the front, the rear dampers are easy to fit, take rear tyres off, you got 2 bolts and the shock comes off nice and easy.
5. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

   #5 15th March 2010, 16:06

   spring compressors ???
6. lukee_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 462

   #6 15th March 2010, 16:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver spring compressors ???

   I'm no expert, but you need to compress the springs when removing/installing them, apparently the force of the spring if it comes loose can kill you !
7. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

   #7 15th March 2010, 16:15

   o, cant u use the spring compressors from the orginal suspension??
8. lukee_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 462

   #8 15th March 2010, 16:18

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   Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver o, cant u use the spring compressors from the orginal suspension??

   Mate spring compressors is a kit, try www.halfords.com for a half decent kit, around the £40 mark, and it obviously compresses (squeezes) the spring smaller so its tense, then you can remove it i think. Never done it but a friend has the compressor kit and he assures me you need one lol. (for the front)

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9. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

   #9 15th March 2010, 16:20

   o lol thats gay, might find someone that know what they are doin lol
   
   cheers for the help lol
   
   i no nothin!!!!
10. lukee_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 462

    #10 15th March 2010, 16:24

    don't worry mate, its pretty simple to do i think!
    Try some of the sax-p users which live in your area, ask them if they can fit it for you!
    
11. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #11 15th March 2010, 16:25

    alright mate cheers il have a search around
12. maraalfap Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 112

    #12 15th March 2010, 16:42

    You need spring compressors to comress the springs on the front struts after you've removed them. You need to disassemble the strut assembly to remove the standard shocks and replace with the new ones (front) rear is simple replacement job. If you don't know what you're doing get somebody who does or at least get proper guidance and supervision. If you fail to attach the spring clamps and use properly the consequences are potentially fatal. I haven't done any of these for a few years now but the job is simple but think SAFETY first and your comments above didn't fill me with confidence!!
13. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #13 15th March 2010, 16:47

    lol yeah mate, think il get someone to do it for me! but il fit the rears next week and just drive it around with 40mm lowered at the back and il just have to wait for the front to be done by someone lol, might just pay a garage to do, if its just the front it cant cost tomuch lol
    
    cheers
14. lukee_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 462

    #14 15th March 2010, 17:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver lol yeah mate, think il get someone to do it for me! but il fit the rears next week and just drive it around with 40mm lowered at the back and il just have to wait for the front to be done by someone lol, might just pay a garage to do, if its just the front it cant cost tomuch lol cheers

    lol. this would look pretty funny, but you do know the way of going about lowering the rear? It isn't with springs, its on a torsion bar mate. Installing new shocks isn't anything to do with the ride height on the rear.
15. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #15 15th March 2010, 17:22

    huh, the new rear dampers will lower the rear right???
    they are set to lower the rear by 40mm!!
16. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #16 15th March 2010, 17:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver o, cant u use the spring compressors from the orginal suspension??

    Spring compressors are a tool. A tool used to compress the spring so the top mount can be undone, and the spring not fly off and hit you in the face.
    A tool, Much like yourself. <Ijoke lol
    
    I STRONGLY suggest getting someone who knows what they are doing to do it. Its a fairly involved process and you will have a fair chance of getting extremely hurt without springs compressed. Also its worth remembering that the rear uses torsion bars which will need to be removed and refitted once the trailing arms have been adjusted to the correct height.
17. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #17 15th March 2010, 17:25

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    Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver huh, the new rear dampers will lower the rear right??? they are set to lower the rear by 40mm!!

    WRONG
    
    Dampers dont lower a car, they have increase stiffness to compensate for the lack of suspension travel.
    A saxo uses a torsion bar. Find a haynes manual and have a read. Theres a few people on here that will lower your car for a fee
18. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #18 15th March 2010, 17:25

    ahhhh imm confused, i dont no anything lol
    cheers for all the help guys, might just leave it for my mate to do, i thought it i take the old dampers off and put the new apex ones on, it will get lowered, where the torsion bar? and do i need to buy anything else to lower the car! i have new rear dampers, front springs and shocks!!
19. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #19 15th March 2010, 17:29

    Torison bars - 2 red bars running under the rear of your car. These are connected to moving trailing arms. The "spring" effect in the rear suspension is caused by the bars resistance to twisting.
    
    You're not far from me, id be happy to meet up somewhen and explain the ins and outs of saxo suspension to give you an understanding
20. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #20 15th March 2010, 17:31

    its for the vts and its off the road atm lol so cant re meet up anywhere, soz bro!
    thinkin of geting my mate just to do it for me lol,
    
    u no the link at the top of the page!!
    do i need to get anything else to lower the vts or not!
21. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #21 15th March 2010, 17:36

    Technicaly no, asuming all the nuts/bolts and bushes are in good condition.
    To lower the car all you need is front dampers and springs and rear dampers. (can be done with just springs)
    Hopefully your mate knows what he is doing, id hate to see a vts ruined. Make sure he's done it before and does know what he's doing.
    Use the search button and FAQ's on here and do ALOT of research on it mate. If your mechanically minded then its quite simple but you need to know your stuff, and judgin by the comments your making i dont think you do yet.

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22. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #22 15th March 2010, 17:38

    Oh and cut the text talk on the forum. You'll soon be the moderators bitch as its a pet hate of theirs
23. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #23 15th March 2010, 17:39

    lmfao, ur right der mate lol alright cool so then my mate comes over he will have all the bits to do
    
    yeah my mate works with saxo/fiesta all the time, sets them up for racing and shit! lol
    
    think he knows his stuff
24. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #24 15th March 2010, 17:40

    ok sorry! my bad! i shall try not to any more, thankyou for the advise
25. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #25 15th March 2010, 17:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver lmfao, ur right der mate lol alright cool so then my mate comes over he will have all the bits to do yeah my mate works with saxo/fiesta all the time, sets them up for racing and shit! lol think he knows his stuff

    Oh one of those race setup jobs is he.
    Have fun and please be aware Saxperience holds no responsibilty for injury to you and your "mate" while attempting to lower your car or whilst driving it. due to sheer neglegence and your "mate" apparently setting cars up for racing. init.
    
    oh and by the way, saxos and fiesta's are nothing alike in terms of suspension.
26. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #26 15th March 2010, 17:47

    cheers man, no worry, he has done plenty of saxo before!
    
    thank you so much for your help!
    think you have kept another saxo on the roads, as if i had done it, it would be down the scrap yard!
    
    shall let you know how it goes!
    hopin to get it done by easter holidays!
    
    cheers once again!!
27. lukee_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 462

    #27 15th March 2010, 17:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxovtsdriver think you have kept another saxo on the roads, as if i had done it, it would be down the scrap yard!

    Fair play mate, just thinking if you did do it, you might have killed yourself not knowing that you need a spring compressor! Take care
28. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #28 15th March 2010, 17:53

    yeah lol true true my mate joel will do it for free and hes done loads before, so its all good will only cost me a beer! which i think worth it
29. user_31039 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Woking / Plymouth Posts: 1031 saxo 1.1 posi blue, saxo 1.4 furio black

    #29 15th March 2010, 21:50

    there is a guy in horsham tht will do it for £80 dude and all you need are the springs as he uses the existing rear torsion bars tht way you are looking at around £120 in total with springs and fitted
30. user_31039 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Woking / Plymouth Posts: 1031 saxo 1.1 posi blue, saxo 1.4 furio black

    #30 15th March 2010, 21:51

    and horsham is only 30-40min drive from us dude and he says he can do it in around 3 hours
31. saxovtsdriver Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Woking Posts: 790 Citroen saxo 1.1 desire Silver Citroen saxo 1.6 1

    #31 15th March 2010, 22:45

    cheer buddy, but got a mate doin it for free )))