Upgrading my front breaks??

1. Denno09 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1125 Saxo honda civic

   #1 20th March 2010, 12:55

   Hi there will be upgrading my front breaks shortly for better breaking on my saxo how do i go about this.
   What would i need
   Thanks
2. nufcsteve Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 848 Saxo 1.4i Furio, Yaris 1.3i SR

   #2 20th March 2010, 13:05

   i presume u would need drilled and groved discs? thats wot im looking to buy soon anyways
3. Denno09 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1125 Saxo honda civic

   #3 20th March 2010, 13:11

   Been looking into a set of drilled and groved disc's but wernt sure was the right thing.
   I have a 1.1 saxoyou see but would vtr/vts disc's fit?
4. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #4 20th March 2010, 13:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Denno09 Been looking into a set of drilled and groved disc's but wernt sure was the right thing. I have a 1.1 saxoyou see but would vtr/vts disc's fit?

   you can get the vtr calipers and discs to fit IIRC. will let someone else clarify though!
5. nufcsteve Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 848 Saxo 1.4i Furio, Yaris 1.3i SR

   #5 20th March 2010, 13:13

   im not sure, im new to the saxo's really, my first car was a saxo 1.1 forte, but that was four years ago, now i have a furio! I think you can put the VTR discs on without any problems!
6. user_36675 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 wigan Posts: 314 saxo vtr Mk2

   #6 20th March 2010, 13:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Denno09 Been looking into a set of drilled and groved disc's but wernt sure was the right thing. I have a 1.1 saxoyou see but would vtr/vts disc's fit?

   vtr's brakes are a load off crap anyways lol!
   dont know how a car with front and back disc brakes can brake so rubbish!
7. Denno09 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1125 Saxo honda civic

   #7 20th March 2010, 13:52

   I no thats why i have said whats the best for upgrading my breaks??
8. nichollsvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Middlesbrough Posts: 220 MK2 Saxo VTS Skoda Octavia VRS

   #8 20th March 2010, 14:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by shaney_b vtr's brakes are a load off crap anyways lol! dont know how a car with front and back disc brakes can brake so rubbish!

   All saxos share the same front brake discs (247mm) and calipers. VTR and VTS have same 247mm discs at the rear.
   
   Vented discs doesn't really improve braking but reduces brake fade, so buying these would be a waste of money.
   
   You have choices of upgrading to 206 gti calipers, discs (266mm or 268mm) and pads and 206 gti 180 which are (282 or 283).
   
   I fitted new 266mm setup to my vts and that's more enough depending on mods.
   
   I reckon adding rear disc setup will require rear sub frame from a vtr, but sure on this.
9. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #9 20th March 2010, 14:07

   If your going to upgrade your brakes go bigger
   
   saxo's don't have a rear subframe
10. user_36675 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 wigan Posts: 314 saxo vtr Mk2

    #10 20th March 2010, 14:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nichollsvts All saxos share the same front brake discs (247mm) and calipers. VTR and VTS have same 247mm discs at the rear. Vented discs doesn't really improve braking but reduces brake fade, so buying these would be a waste of money. You have choices of upgrading to 206 gti calipers, discs (266mm or 268mm) and pads and 206 gti 180 which are (282 or 283). I fitted new 266mm setup to my vts and that's more enough depending on mods. I reckon adding rear disc setup will require rear sub frame from a vtr, but sure on this.

    so can 206 gti discs n calipers fit on a vtr with standard alloys with no problems then mate??
    
    sorry for hijacking your thread denno09 but im looking to upgarde my brakes also
11. Denno09 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1125 Saxo honda civic

    #11 20th March 2010, 14:09

    no worrys matey.
    Iv seen some rear discs for sale they are 250mm across would they fit on a 106 GTI Rear axle? I do belive the vtr/vts are all the same on the rear yes??
12. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #12 20th March 2010, 14:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shaney_b so can 206 gti discs n calipers fit on a vtr with standard alloys with no problems then mate?? sorry for hijacking your thread denno09 but im looking to upgarde my brakes also

    Yes, you can also fit gti6 brakes, but they requier some grinding on the carrier
    
    Im selling some 266mm brakes with disc & pads
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denno09 no worrys matey. Iv seen some rear discs for sale they are 250mm across would they fit on a 106 GTI Rear axle? I do belive the vtr/vts are all the same on the rear yes??

    There all the same mate
13. user_36675 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 wigan Posts: 314 saxo vtr Mk2

    #13 20th March 2010, 14:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3cott Yes, you can also fit gti6 brakes, but they requier some grinding on the carrier

    yer i know about the 106 gti brakes but i thought you needed at least 15" alloys to fit them, what exactly do you have to grind then?
14. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #14 20th March 2010, 14:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shaney_b yer i know about the 106 gti brakes but i thought you needed at least 15" alloys to fit them, what exactly do you have to grind then?

    You can fit 266mm & 283mm brakes under 15's
    
    The gti6 carrier fouls on the strut! That's why it needs grinding
15. user_36675 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 wigan Posts: 314 saxo vtr Mk2

    #15 20th March 2010, 14:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3cott You can fit 266mm & 283mm brakes under 15's The gti6 carrier fouls on the strut! That's why it needs grinding

    think i might upgrade to 15s first then, cheers mate
16. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #16 20th March 2010, 14:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shaney_b think i might upgrade to 15s first then, cheers mate

    You can fit 266mm brakes under 14's
17. user_36675 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 wigan Posts: 314 saxo vtr Mk2

    #17 20th March 2010, 14:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3cott You can fit 266mm brakes under 14's

    i know but i cant be arsed grinding stuff down lol! i where goin to get 15s anyway so may aswell get em before i upgrade brakes init?
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 20th March 2010, 14:34

    citroen berlingo brakes fit.
    266mm disc and get the pads to match.
    
    need to grind a small part off the top of the carrier to fit.
    Just use decent OEM discs and pads with them and you will notice the difference.
    
    Can also use 206gtibrakes and others.
    There is a thread on here with what fits what doesnt have a search.
19. nichollsvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Middlesbrough Posts: 220 MK2 Saxo VTS Skoda Octavia VRS

    #19 20th March 2010, 15:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3cott You can fit 266mm & 283mm brakes under 15's The gti6 carrier fouls on the strut! That's why it needs grinding

    Think other 283mm off 307 HDI's fit under 15's without grinding.
20. djflipsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 Poole United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6410 Vts, Vtr, Furio..

    #20 20th March 2010, 15:40

    if you want a massive upgrade, and have the time, get brembos!
    
    (oh im selling some...)
21. Denno09 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1125 Saxo honda civic

    #21 20th March 2010, 23:29

    Iv seen a pair of rear discs for sale but was woundering are they all the same size will vtr/vts/106 GTI all fit the same?? or are they all diiferent sizes??
22. user_36675 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 wigan Posts: 314 saxo vtr Mk2

    #22 21st March 2010, 01:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denno09 Iv seen a pair of rear discs for sale but was woundering are they all the same size will vtr/vts/106 GTI all fit the same?? or are they all diiferent sizes??

    all the same as long as there the same size as standard mate
23. Denno09 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1125 Saxo honda civic

    #23 21st March 2010, 20:39

    Cheers mate.
    Will would vtr/vts front discs fit a saxo 1.1
24. Denno09 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1125 Saxo honda civic

    #24 23rd March 2010, 16:45

    Anyone ^^^
25. nichollsvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Middlesbrough Posts: 220 MK2 Saxo VTS Skoda Octavia VRS

    #25 23rd March 2010, 16:58

    Not sure to be honest. Although the discs are the same size, Rear standard discs are solide not vented so you should check if there solid or vented.