VTR engine mods

22nd March 2010, 08:51

I was just wondering bar the usual breather mods and cams what else are people doing to there vtr engines? With a £300 budjet.

22nd March 2010, 09:10

Painting bits on them, cleaning them, trying to turbo them, breaking them

22nd March 2010, 09:28

Upper strut brace, chrome engine covers, paint rocker cover, clean the fucker

22nd March 2010, 09:30

Taking them out and putting vts engine's in.

22nd March 2010, 09:37

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Originally Posted by sm02_saxo

Taking them out and putting vts engine's in.

I couldnt insure a vts. When i said mods i ment performance mods iv heard of some people polishing the throttle bodie, anyone done this?

22nd March 2010, 09:47

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Originally Posted by EAG

I couldnt insure a vts. When i said mods i ment performance mods iv heard of some people polishing the throttle bodie, anyone done this?

Porting and polishing the throttle body, dosent 'really' do alot. May give a little better throttle responce but dont be expecting the 2-3 bhp people promice with it.

Can get someone to do it on here for £30ish.

Joe

22nd March 2010, 09:54

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Originally Posted by sm02_saxo

Porting and polishing the throttle body, dosent 'really' do alot. May give a little better throttle responce but dont be expecting the 2-3 bhp people promice with it.

Can get someone to do it on here for £30ish.

Joe

Ok thanks for that mate i dont actually own one yet im still looking for a vtr, you sound like you know your stuff what cam could you reccomend me?

22nd March 2010, 09:57

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Originally Posted by EAG

Ok thanks for that mate i dont actually own one yet im still looking for a vtr, you sound like you know your stuff what cam could you reccomend me?

With just £300 then a mild cam that doesn't need a map (Remap would cost around £400) So maybe a Newmans PH1. Although the gains would be minimal so it would be better to save up and get better cams and a map. Exhaust and induction mods first though.

22nd March 2010, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

With just £300 then a milf cam that doesn't need a map (Remap would cost around £400) So maybe a Newmans PH1. Although the gains would be minimal so it would be better to save up and get better cams and a map. Exhaust and induction mods first though.

Thanks for that mate, Anyone know of any white vtr's going for sale have looked everywhere and can only find dogs?

22nd March 2010, 10:04

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Originally Posted by EAG

Thanks for that mate, Anyone know of any white vtr's going for sale have looked everywhere and can only find dogs?

ive got a silver one for sale . . .

22nd March 2010, 10:04

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Originally Posted by EAG

Thanks for that mate, Anyone know of any white vtr's going for sale have looked everywhere and can only find dogs?

Just try the usual, Ebay, Autotrader, local newspapers, Piston heads, other ad sites, and the for sale section on here when you are able to view it (Have to have been a member 30 days and have 100 post in case you don't know

)

22nd March 2010, 10:05

Get yourself 100 posts and then keep an eye on the for sale section on here. Quite a few minters go through this website.

Joe

22nd March 2010, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Just try the usual, Ebay, Autotrader, local newspapers, Piston heads, other ad sites, and the for sale section on here when you are able to view it (Have to have been a member 30 days and have 100 post in case you don't know

)

Il have to wait intell i can view on here then

22nd March 2010, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sam-

ive got a silver one for sale . . .

Sorry, has to be white.

22nd March 2010, 11:25

Get a good runner with dogish paint work (this will obviously bring the price down) then get it resprayed in white? lol

22nd March 2010, 11:50

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Originally Posted by SheldonStyles

Get a good runner with dogish paint work (this will obviously bring the price down) then get it resprayed in white? lol

Iv thought about this but preping and re-spraying a whole car isnt as cheap as people think for a good job local bodyshop have said im looking at £900 - £1000 depending on what condition the shell is in and thats cheap, Also you dont usally get dog shell's with mint low mileage motors. So just gonna wait intell i see a mint white vtr and snap it up.

22nd March 2010, 11:53

You'll be waiting a while then.

White saxo's arent too common.

22nd March 2010, 11:56

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Originally Posted by sm02_saxo

You'll be waiting a while then.

White saxo's arent too common.

Yee ive never seen a white saxo on the roads. Only seen 2 or 3 for sale aswell. Just have a look into other colours, surely not just white tickles your fancy? lol

22nd March 2010, 11:58

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Originally Posted by sm02_saxo

You'll be waiting a while then.

White saxo's arent too common.

I dont mind, im in no major rush.

22nd March 2010, 12:04

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Originally Posted by SheldonStyles

Yee ive never seen a white saxo on the roads. Only seen 2 or 3 for sale aswell. Just have a look into other colours, surely not just white tickles your fancy? lol

The only way ill buy a vtr/vts is if its white, am not really a huge French fan am into my Vauxhalls really but couple of my friends have 106 gti's vts's vtr's and all say they a good cars fun to drive and cheap parts couple say there also good for the track if your prepared to spend money on them, so iv decided i want a white vtr with white vts wheels, doesnt need to have vts wheels for me to buy it.

22nd March 2010, 12:09

id rather spunk that 300 on making the car stop and turn than accelerate faster (as the best way to go fast is carry corner speed better)

decent matched fixed damping suspension kit (spax or apex are the 2 i liked out of what ive had apex being my favorite) and they go for about 200 quid new

and then got a bit you could spend on some 1144s and a set of decent discs

22nd March 2010, 12:11

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Originally Posted by AlexB

id rather spunk that 300 on making the car stop and turn than accelerate faster (as the best way to go fast is carry corner speed better)

decent matched fixed damping suspension kit (spax or apex are the 2 i liked out of what ive had apex being my favorite) and they go for about 200 quid new

and then got a bit you could spend on some 1144s and a set of decent discs

I didnt explain myself very well my budjet for engine mods would be about £300.

22nd March 2010, 12:16

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Originally Posted by EAG

The only way ill buy a vtr/vts is if its white, am not really a huge French fan am into my Vauxhalls really but couple of my friends have 106 gti's vts's vtr's and all say they a good cars fun to drive and cheap parts couple say there also good for the track if your prepared to spend money on them, so iv decided i want a white vtr with white vts wheels, doesnt need to have vts wheels for me to buy it.

White with white wheels will look "too" white imo. With black wheels is the typical approach.

Hope youve got plenty of cleaning gear aswell, their a cu*t to keep clean.

22nd March 2010, 12:19

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Originally Posted by EAG

I didnt explain myself very well my budjet for engine mods would be about £300.

fair enough then

in that case
decent panel filter
decent exhaust
manifold

and theres youe 300 gone
over and above that as said a mild cam that doesnt need a remap is about all you could do

and dependant on the use of the car an s2 rallye heat exchanger for the oil cooling so it can take a bit more before your oil starts to get a bit warm

22nd March 2010, 12:41

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Originally Posted by sm02_saxo

White with white wheels will look "too" white imo. With black wheels is the typical approach.

Hope youve got plenty of cleaning gear aswell, their a cu*t to keep clean.

I have plenty of detailing products, white on white is too white in your opinion not in mine

i also like Nurburg vxr's they look

22nd March 2010, 12:46

your a vauxhall man nice i got rid of my vectra sri cos i wanted a vtr but now i`m in the process of selling it and getting a vectra sri again just cant get used to a little car again

22nd March 2010, 12:52

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Originally Posted by dodgy1980

your a vauxhall man nice i got rid of my vectra sri cos i wanted a vtr but now i`m in the process of selling it and getting a vectra sri again just cant get used to a little car again

Good to hear, what colour was your vtr ?

22nd March 2010, 12:53

ive got my gold VTR great fun ,but ive also kept my Volvo C70 T5 coupe black with black alloys also great fun

22nd March 2010, 12:54

my vtr was black with white wheels didnt look to bad but i like the feel and power of the sri

22nd March 2010, 13:01

So i take it there isnt a big tuning scene for the 8v engine never really heard of them making good power figures maybe its for this reason.

22nd March 2010, 13:04

there is i suppose i just miss my old 2.5 sri

as some one said before for your 300 pounds id sort suspension and brakes out or go sri

i love the vtr before any one gets humpy with the sri comment

22nd March 2010, 13:13

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Originally Posted by dodgy1980

there is i suppose i just miss my old 2.5 sri

as some one said before for your 300 pounds id sort suspension and brakes out or go sri

i love the vtr before any one gets humpy with the sri comment

I like vectra but there not my thing, theres a corsa down my street with the 3.0 msd v6 with cailbra turbo wheels been in total vauxhall you would love it. im just going to wait intell a white saxo comes up if anyone see's one just send me a private message.

22nd March 2010, 13:34

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Originally Posted by EAG

So i take it there isnt a big tuning scene for the 8v engine never really heard of them making good power figures maybe its for this reason.

not really no

most put a 16v in there

but they can see up to about 170hp in n/a spec if highly tuned

or boost is more popular on them

but tbh not many do tune them

22nd March 2010, 13:42

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Originally Posted by AlexB

not really no

most put a 16v in there

but they can see up to about 170hp in n/a spec if highly tuned

or boost is more popular on them

but tbh not many do tune them

Fair play.

22nd March 2010, 13:47

im in the middle of doing a project with a vtr and im spending on everything but the engine (but not massively expensive stuff) and i think ill have a pretty fun and quick car but literally 100% standard engine even standard aribox and exhaust with a cat in there

its not haveing 130 hp ect that matters when you drive the car properly imo

hence my origonal post saying i would spend elsewere

22nd March 2010, 13:49

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Originally Posted by EAG

So i take it there isnt a big tuning scene for the 8v engine never really heard of them making good power figures maybe its for this reason.

lol, i wouldnt expect a 'big tuning scene for the 8v's' if your budget is 300 quid. And there is a very big tuning scene for the VTR's mate.

22nd March 2010, 13:52

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Originally Posted by AlexB

im in the middle of doing a project with a vtr and im spending on everything but the engine (but not massively expensive stuff) and i think ill have a pretty fun and quick car but literally 100% standard engine even standard aribox and exhaust with a cat in there

its not haveing 130 hp ect that matters when you drive the car properly imo

hence my origonal post saying i would spend elsewere

Building a car in such a way must be getting put onto a track? give me your spec on the project.

22nd March 2010, 13:56

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Originally Posted by lukee_VTR

lol, i wouldnt expect a 'big tuning scene for the 8v's' if your budget is 300 quid. And there is a very big tuning scene for the VTR's mate.

I didnt say i was going to build a 10 seccond car with £300 my plan isnt to build a quick car else id buy a c20let and buy some phase 2 software and through it in my corsa tomorrow. I was just woundering why not meny people tune them. And for the "expect big tuning scene from 8v's" 8v's can make good power not saying vtr engines can becuase i dont no much about them.

22nd March 2010, 14:01

Ok fella, not quite sure what u mean by bringing up the 2.0 vauxhall engines all the time isn't going to help anything. - And alot of people tune VTR's, im one of them, and im sure theres hundreds more people who are tuning up their VTR whether its for the 3-5bhp gains on the induction or boosting it up you know?

22nd March 2010, 14:03

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Originally Posted by EAG

Building a car in such a way must be getting put onto a track? give me your spec on the project.

long term plan is track yea

so far the cars been back to a bare shell pretty much the main idea was to save weight but not look heavily stripped ect
interior refitted minus all sound deadening and rear seatbelts cant use rear seats due to fixed lotus elise front seats harness on the drivers (yes its an mot fail i remove the seats for the mot though lol) removing as much weight as i can (even cut most of the pacel shelf out and trimmed over it so you cant see) battery in the boot with a kill switch in the passenger footwell ect so weight distribution is better and genally things moved around/removed here and there

the actual mods to the car are
98hp vtr motor
1.4 106 xsi gearbox
valeo clutch
b&m short shift
23mm master cylender
wilwood 285mm 4 pot front brakes
goodridge braided lines
15" compomotive wheels
yokohama prada spec 2 tyres
apex 50mm suspension kit
powerflex front wishbone mounts
powerflex front arb mounts
vts front arb
pugsport group n rear wishone mounts
pugsport group n topmounts
poly race rear beam bushes
pugsport group A semi rigid engine mounts

probably a few other bits ive forgot

22nd March 2010, 14:06

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Originally Posted by lukee_VTR

Ok fella, not quite sure what u mean by bringing up the 2.0 vauxhall engines all the time isn't going to help anything. - And alot of people tune VTR's, im one of them, and im sure theres hundreds more people who are tuning up their VTR whether its for the 3-5bhp gains on the induction or boosting it up you know?

The fact i used a vauxhall engine code is irrelevant i just stating if i wanted to build a quick car what car id be building so you saying to me "you cant tune a vtr with £300 etc" its not what im trying to do my friend i was merely asking what engine mods can be done with £300.

22nd March 2010, 14:25

better to give the engine a good service with good quality oil - better performance gain over fitting an induction kit to a tired engine running with bad oil

22nd March 2010, 14:29

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Originally Posted by raunchz

better to give the engine a good service with good quality oil - better performance gain over fitting an induction kit to a tired engine running with bad oil

Id service the car soon as i got it

22nd March 2010, 14:45

Yeh good work !! Better to get the engine using nice fluids before trying to modify it for more power - no point starting with a tired engine !

22nd March 2010, 14:48

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Originally Posted by raunchz

Yeh good work !! Better to get the engine using nice fluids before trying to modify it for more power - no point starting with a tired engine !

Exactly.