Anything special with a xsara rear beam?

  1. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
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    My mate has an old citroen xsara and says the rear beam is better than the one of a saxo as it turns/steers slightly round sharp cornering. i questioned it but he seemed quite certain. Anyone heard of this?
  2. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 gainsborough Posts: 2337 Vectra 2.0t
    #2
    4 wheel steering? lol monstor truck style
  3. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
    #3
    a few cars do have this, i know the corrado does.

    i doubt the xsara does, as im sure the 306 doesnt and there petty much the same car.
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by frankie View Post
    a few cars do have this, i know the corrado does.

    i doubt the xsara does, as im sure the 306 doesnt and there petty much the same car.
    just had a google and it does have passive rear steering

    how it works though is BEYOND me lol
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 telford, shropshire Posts: 968 E86 Z4 3.0 si coupe
    #5
    Xsaras as I'm aware didn't have rear steering, but I could be wrong. Some 306s did like some Gti6s.
  6. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
    #6
    well ill be funked didnt know that....
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by frankie View Post
    well ill be funked didnt know that....
    likewise my fine friend
  8. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chinkostu View Post
    just had a google and it does have passive rear steering

    how it works though is BEYOND me lol
    Its not very clever but it works. The bushes have an element of movement inside as they are made from an inner and outer ring of rubber. Hard to explain. I have some 206 ones I could photograph so will try to make some time to....

    Kev
  9. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
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    i wouldnt of thought it possible with it being tosion bar....
  10. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #10
    the whole rear beam incorporating the torsion bars is linked to the chassis with four bolts and bushes, allowing the movement..
  11. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #11
    ahhh im genuinly suprised everyone didnt say my mates a tard, becuase ive never heard of this before lol
  12. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Stoke on trent Posts: 1132 Corsa GSI C20LET
    #12
    Is there anything else different about these beams? they any wider? run bigger or better brakes? larger torsion or anti roll bars?

    cheers
  13. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 East Kilbride Posts: 113 106 Gti, Subaru Impreza
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LSOfreak View Post
    My mate has an old citroen xsara and says the rear beam is better than the one of a saxo as it turns/steers slightly round sharp cornering. i questioned it but he seemed quite certain. Anyone heard of this?

    Your Saxo has an amount of 'passive' rear steer too, probably not as much required in degrees as the GTI-6's or Xsara VTS but it will turn in better anyway due to it having a lighter front end.
    Its basically just the whole rear axle subframe twisting in its rubber bushes when a side loading is applied.
    The 106 GTI's and rallyes take it further and are more prone to lift off over steer because of the slightly larger rear ARB causing it to cock a rear wheel a little earlier than the saxo will reducing the rear end grip, making it more driftable and controllable on the throttle whilst cornering at the expense of some stability.