Lots of play in the gearbox :(

1. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

   #1 28th March 2010, 14:22

   Right heres my problem, I know saxos as standard have play in the gearbox but thats not what this issue is.
   
   Basically, in any gears i can move the gearstick alot in any direction. 3rd seems to be the worse however there all much of a muchness tbh.
   
   Ive replaced the main selector bar and the bracket with the ball that stops the linkages moving about. I also have a compbrake quickshift fitted however this isnt causing the problem as ive had that on for ages.
   
   There is a bit of play in the main pin that goes into the gearbox. There is also still quite alot of play in the rubber ball that stops the linkages moving about even though it is brand new as is the selector bar
   
   The gearstick will wobble easily there is pretty much no resistant in the play at all, which is making me think it cant be the main pin in the gearbox ??
   
   Also the gearstick shaft is tight on the selector bar aswell thats not causing the issue either.
   
   Has anyone had this problem before ??
   
   Cheers, Andy.
2. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

   #2 28th March 2010, 14:33

   how is your gearbox oil andy? and do you have xsport gear linkages? they have some adjustment on them it.they may have loosened off slightly
3. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

   #3 28th March 2010, 14:44

   no idea how the gearbox oil is tbh
   
   Ive got the standard linkages on however i do have the kam racing ones i could fit. The thing is if i get someone to move the gearstick while im under the car looking asfar as i can see its just the linkages moving in the ball thingy the main pin doesnt move at all. All the play is taken up on that ball if you see what i mean.
4. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

   #4 28th March 2010, 14:55

   yeah, ours was like that and we replaced the ball.before it was like it was in neutral in all gears now its tigher than it was when we first got it.try changing the linkages and maybe a gear oil change see if it helps.
5. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

   #5 28th March 2010, 15:04

   ill change the linkages and see however they seem ok. i may just change the box to dougies and see if that helps lol.
6. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

   #6 28th March 2010, 15:10

   well there's always that lol, didnt realise he still had the goldie
7. Pidge Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Loughborough Posts: 305 Saxo MK1 VTR

   #7 28th March 2010, 20:45

   The ball may have dropped off your bell crank.
8. Andys_VTR Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Edinburgh Posts: 1009 1998 persian red Vtr

   #8 28th March 2010, 20:58

   same problem with mine my mechanic said linkages
9. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #9 28th March 2010, 20:59

   Possibly the selector pin. Drill it out and fit a large bolt instead.
10. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #10 28th March 2010, 21:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pidge The ball may have dropped off your bell crank.

    The what lol ?
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andys_VTR same problem with mine my mechanic said linkages

    might change them just for piece of mind
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH Possibly the selector pin. Drill it out and fit a large bolt instead.

    I can get hold of a new box for much cheapness may just change it over what do you think ??
11. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #11 28th March 2010, 21:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andymiller_VTR I can get hold of a new box for much cheapness may just change it over what do you think ??

    Does it have a VTR gearbox currently?
    
    Would only be worth doing if you go for something with closer ratios imo - vts, 1.4 xsi, s2/ s1 rallye etc.
12. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #12 28th March 2010, 21:08

    ye its just the standard box and would be another vtr box going in. If i could get hold of a different one with closer ratios id be tempted but id need to know it was definently the box before i whipped it out obviously.......No sexual pun intended
13. Pidge Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Loughborough Posts: 305 Saxo MK1 VTR

    #13 29th March 2010, 11:28

    the bell crank is like a metal rod which sits in a tube and it has a ball on the end to guide it so it isnt sloppy. but the ball often comes off