F*****g torsion bar

1. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

   #1 28th March 2010, 21:40

   Tried for 3 hours today to remove the torsion,and got no fucking where,and that was two of us,so is it safe to say the back end is totally fucked or what,and leave it alone.How the hell do you lot do so many of em,and i am normally very competent when it comes to cars,so weather i am missing summat i dont know.
2. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

   #2 28th March 2010, 21:42

   you need a sledge hammer and a suitable sized solid drift to knock them out
3. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #3 28th March 2010, 21:42

   ive found aslong as washers and bolts on either end of the bars are removed, they tend to come out quite easy . . . well easier than i always expect!
   
   if its still bolted in at the other end though, you'll have no chance.
4. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

   #4 28th March 2010, 21:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tonto_VTR ive found aslong as washers and bolts on either end of the bars are removed, they tend to come out quite easy . . . well easier than i always expect! if its still bolted in at the other end though, you'll have no chance.

   I have definatley removed the bolts mate,i know i can be a bit dim sometimes,but not that bad yet.I even tried my bosch drill with the kango action,in hope the vibration would break the corrosion down,more chance of platting piss.
5. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #5 28th March 2010, 22:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vtrsaz I have definatley removed the bolts mate

   But what about the offset washers that have to also removed?
   
   Also what method were you using to try and remove them?
6. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

   #6 28th March 2010, 22:04

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by willsy But what about the offset washers that have to also removed? Also what method were you using to try and remove them?

   Yep washers also removed.We were using a lump hammer,and the jack handle,which is all we had.Someone mentined a sledge hammer,but wouldent that have the car off the bloody axle stands.
7. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #7 28th March 2010, 22:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vtrsaz Yep washers also removed.We were using a lump hammer,and the jack handle,which is all we had.Someone mentined a sledge hammer,but wouldent that have the car off the bloody axle stands.

   Perfectly safe as long as you have some good quality axle stands and they are setup in the correct position on the jacking points.
8. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

   #8 28th March 2010, 22:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by willsy Perfectly safe as long as you have some good quality axle stands and they are setup in the correct position on the jacking points.

   Oh well ill have one more go,and if still no joy,it looks like its being raised back up and fuck it.
9. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #9 28th March 2010, 22:34

   Well if its Tipton (Birmingham) that you live in we lower Saxo's in Nuneaton which isnt far away
   
   If you have no success and need it doing feel free to give us a shout
10. vts-jeff L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 ireland Posts: 84 Vts

    #10 28th March 2010, 23:34

    Use a bigger bar and a solid piece of pipe, this will make things easier for you.
11. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

    #11 29th March 2010, 10:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vts-jeff Use a bigger bar and a solid piece of pipe, this will make things easier for you.

    Anyway i am off out to fetch me a big sledge hammer after,and a beefy bar.What makes it worse though,is that its the one tucked behind the brakeline,and still got another fucker to do.
12. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

    #12 29th March 2010, 10:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by willsy Well if its Tipton (Birmingham) that you live in we lower Saxo's in Nuneaton which isnt far away If you have no success and need it doing feel free to give us a shout

    Thanks for the offer willsy,but not saying that your incompetent or anything,but if we cant move it with a big sledge hammer,how would you go about getting the fucker out.
13. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #13 29th March 2010, 10:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrsaz Thanks for the offer willsy,but not saying that your incompetent or anything,but if we cant move it with a big sledge hammer,how would you go about getting the fucker out.

    because its practically his 2nd job?
    lol . . .
14. Dose2k L-plater Joined: Apr 2008 Sidcup Posts: 59 Mk2 Saxo VTR 02'

    #14 29th March 2010, 10:40

    WD-40 and get a hammer and just smack the suspension arms to shock the torsion bar, i used a slide hammer on mine and it worked great.
    
    Jay
15. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #15 29th March 2010, 10:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dose2k WD-40 and get a hammer and just smack the suspension arms to shock the torsion bar, i used a slide hammer on mine and it worked great. Jay

    hammering the suspension arm to shake it loose worked well for me!
    so does the slide hammer! but be careful, as if you us a shit bolt! and a crappy slide hammer you have the risk of ripping the threads!...
    so they say anyway! ive enver had that problem though.
16. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

    #16 29th March 2010, 11:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR hammering the suspension arm to shake it loose worked well for me! so does the slide hammer! but be careful, as if you us a shit bolt! and a crappy slide hammer you have the risk of ripping the threads!... so they say anyway! ive enver had that problem though.

    Is this not going to bugger your bearings in the long run? I was under the impression that as soon as you start messing about with the arms it disrupts the bearings.
17. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #17 29th March 2010, 17:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrsaz Thanks for the offer willsy,but not saying that your incompetent or anything,but if we cant move it with a big sledge hammer,how would you go about getting the fucker out.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR because its practically his 2nd job? lol . . .

    lol exactly Tonto
    
    I lower a hell of a lot of Saxo's and 106's.
    
    Id be confident enough to say that if i couldnt get it out and complete the job properly then id pay you.
18. Add91289 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 In The Peak District Posts: 2348 Icelandic VT?

    #18 29th March 2010, 17:29

    never personally removed torsion bars. but is it practical to get some heat into them to help free them up? i dont know if this is possible btw, just an idea.
19. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #19 29th March 2010, 17:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Add91289 never personally removed torsion bars. but is it practical to get some heat into them to help free them up? i dont know if this is possible btw, just an idea.

    You should never need to heat it up.
    
    Plus if you were reckless with using heat ud risk damage to brake lines that are very close in certain places and the internal lubricant/grease on the bearings
20. user_25465 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 5250 Pink Jazz

    #20 29th March 2010, 17:41

    Willsy can you pm me a price to fit the Spax PSX kit please?
21. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

    #21 29th March 2010, 17:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by willsy lol exactly Tonto I lower a hell of a lot of Saxo's and 106's. Id be confident enough to say that if i couldnt get it out and complete the job properly then id pay you.

    Thats a fair comment bud.Going to try the sledge hammer anyway first,and if that dont work,the missus said it has to be put back to standard.She is already going ape shit at me,and cant afford to pay anyone anyway being on the rock and roll.
22. Boothy_UK Banned Joined: Sep 2008 bastardville Posts: 860 a cunt for a eye

    #22 29th March 2010, 17:48

    dude, trust me - just keep trying it.
    it took me time to do mine, over the course of a week tbh, pain in the arse but worth it...
    wd40+++++
    hammer+++++
    mates round++++
23. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #23 29th March 2010, 17:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stinkycheese Willsy can you pm me a price to fit the Spax PSX kit please?

    PM'ed
24. vtrsaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate

    #24 30th March 2010, 17:30

    Finally cracked the fucker today after sourcing a decent drift,but then the rain stopped play till tmoz.