Recommendations for remap please?

1. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

   #1 3rd April 2010, 13:51

   I'm looking to have my vts remapped, can I have recommendations for where to get it done and rough prices please I'm down in east Sussex. Also is it worth doing and how will it benefit the car? Many thanks
2. johnlambert Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Dublin Posts: 4359 Honda S2000

   #2 3rd April 2010, 13:55

   get cams 1st. then a re-map.
   
   what are you using your car for exactly?
   road use or track use??
   
   get newmans cams anyway or piper.
   the more aggressive cam you get the car becomes less useful for road.
   
   http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...camshafts.html
3. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

   #3 3rd April 2010, 14:01

   I looked into piper cams mate was thinkin jus the fast road cams rather than ultimate cam kit, I was advised to get remap first, I'm using it for road use mainly will be occasionlly used for track
4. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

   #4 3rd April 2010, 14:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stueebaby I looked into piper cams mate was thinkin jus the fast road cams rather than ultimate cam kit, I was advised to get remap first, I'm using it for road use mainly will be occasionlly used for track

   who advised you to get a remap before fitting the cams ?
5. Cov_Rob Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Coventry Posts: 498 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo

   #5 3rd April 2010, 14:15

   Getting a remap before getting cams makes no sence mate. The point of the remap is to fine tune the fuel/air mixture and get the most power out of the engine, getting it done before getting cams means that when you fit the cams all the money you just spent setting the car up will be wasted.
   I'd do everything you have planned for the engine first. The remap should be the VERY last thing done to the engine IMO
6. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

   #6 3rd April 2010, 14:18

   A couple of people I was chatting to down the pub I was told to get remap first then get cams after cos with standard map I won't get full potential of new cams? Is that wrong then? Sorry I'm not really clued up with this stuff that why I thought I'd ask people on here cos they're saxo experts haha
7. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

   #7 3rd April 2010, 14:19

   Oh really haha now I feel like a bit of a nob lol
8. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

   #8 3rd April 2010, 14:24

   You won't get the potential of the new cams either if the car is remapped for the old cams. It needs to be done after the modification to the engine, ie the cams and that are installed.
9. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

   #9 3rd April 2010, 14:31

   Oh right I see that def makes sense but how come then do people get a standard engine remapped? Now that doesn't make sense to me?
10. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #10 3rd April 2010, 14:40

    What year is the car. If its a newer model i dont think many places can remap it, in fact i think only 1 place can in the country and thats chip wizards.
11. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

    #11 3rd April 2010, 14:55

    stand alone or vts ecu?
    
    if your wanting you ecu remapped, chipwizards is the only place id be looking at, worth the travel
12. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

    #12 3rd April 2010, 15:50

    Oh really? I thought any remap place wud do it it's not standard it's had full stainless custom exhaust decatted with 4-2-1 manifold potted and polished has blasted head induction kit head rebuild. Would I benefit from remap?
13. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

    #13 3rd April 2010, 15:57

    If you are going to fit cams then yes you would benefit, i wouldnt bother getting a remap for just exhaust mani n a port n polished head tbh
14. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #14 3rd April 2010, 16:00

    As above mate.
    
    Not all Remapping places will do the Saxo ECUs. The Mk1 Single plug ECUs are easier to map, although the Mk2 Triple Plug ECUs are harder to get into to alter the maps or somthing, and the only place that can remap a triple plug ECU is ChipWiazrds.
    
    You Remap AFTER mods not before.
15. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

    #15 3rd April 2010, 16:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax As above mate. Not all Remapping places will do the Saxo ECUs. The Mk1 Single plug ECUs are easier to map, although the Mk2 Triple Plug ECUs are harder to get into to alter the maps or somthing, and the only place that can remap a triple plug ECU is ChipWiazrds. You Remap AFTER mods not before.

    +1
    
    single plugs seem to map REALLY well at chipwizards
16. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

    #16 3rd April 2010, 16:37

    oh really ok then so sounds like i'd have to head there then if i wanted it done?
    also so basically are you saying getting it re-mapped as is.... i wouldnt really gain anything from it unless i put fast road cams in? would i have to uprate anything if i put fast road cams in bareing in mind the engine is on 70k and the car is 10 years old??
17. Cov_Rob Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Coventry Posts: 498 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo

    #17 3rd April 2010, 16:50

    Sorry to hijack ur thread mate
    
    Can anyone tell me where chipwizards are? Their website is down atm
18. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #18 3rd April 2010, 16:50

    Youd be wasting £340 or whatever amount it costs for a remap from chipwizards for the sake of a gain just fitting a de-cat would give you.
    
    Research your cams mate, think theres a sticky about them at the top of the page, should help you out mate
19. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #19 3rd April 2010, 16:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cov_Rob Sorry to hijack ur thread mate Can anyone tell me where chipwizards are? Their website is down atm

    Manchester area.
20. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

    #20 3rd April 2010, 16:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cov_Rob Sorry to hijack ur thread mate Can anyone tell me where chipwizards are? Their website is down atm

    rochdale mate
21. stueebaby Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Citroen Saxo 16V VTS

    #21 3rd April 2010, 16:58

    okay mate thanks alot for your help much appreciated i'll do some research
22. Cov_Rob Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Coventry Posts: 498 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo

    #22 3rd April 2010, 17:02

    Nice one, cheers guys Are they really the only place to get the 3 plug ECU's remapped?
23. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

    #23 3rd April 2010, 17:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cov_Rob Nice one, cheers guys Are they really the only place to get the 3 plug ECU's remapped?

    i beleive so, also come highly recommended