Back box has fallen off :(

1. Keeley Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leicestershire Posts: 128 Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTR (Wicked red)

   #1 10th April 2010, 23:40

   Hey,
   
   I'm disappointed to say that my car has decided to break again .
   
   I was driving earlier today when it started to sound like the exhaust had blown. Upon pulling over and looking under my car, I noticed that the back box was no longer connected to the exhaust pipe (centre exhaust section?). Basically, it turns out that the end of the exhaust pipe section (the lip section that unites with the lip on the back box and is held together with a clamp) had broken off due to some severe rusting. I've included some pictures below so it's clearer what the problem is:
   
   Here you can see where the join is meant to be between the back box and the exhaust section:
   
   
   
   I literally took a spanner to the bolts on the clamps to try and remove the piece of exhaust section, and they crumbled off:
   
   
   
   This is the end of the exhaust section that broke off:
   
   
   
   I'm not really sure what to do next. Is it "simply" a case of buying a replacement centre exhaust section (not sure if this is what its proper name is), or do you reckon it is possible to weld the broken piece back on to the existing section and then buying a replacement clamp? I'm tempted to just take it up to a garage and ask them how much it would cost to solve, but I'm not sure if this is necessarily the best idea. I need the car back on the road ASAP because I'm meant to be practicing hard for my driving test!
2. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #2 10th April 2010, 23:42

   new centre pipe and new bak box.
3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 10th April 2010, 23:43

   lol, its a waste of time welding the broken off bit back on mate.
4. L20VTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 Hams Hall/Spine Road etc Posts: 8076 Still broken ones.

   #4 10th April 2010, 23:43

   time for a none standard exhaust maybe?
5. Keeley Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leicestershire Posts: 128 Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTR (Wicked red)

   #5 10th April 2010, 23:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tonto_VTR new centre pipe and new bak box.

   Why a new back box as well?
6. Keeley Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leicestershire Posts: 128 Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTR (Wicked red)

   #6 10th April 2010, 23:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax lol, its a waste of time welding the broken off bit back on mate.

   That's what my gut told me, but hey, just wanted to check .
7. Keeley Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leicestershire Posts: 128 Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTR (Wicked red)

   #7 10th April 2010, 23:46

   Is it best to approach Citroen for a centre section?
8. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #8 10th April 2010, 23:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Keeley Why a new back box as well?

   is the top picture not of your back box?
   its fucked.
   
   also main dealer for parts = rip off!
9. Keeley Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leicestershire Posts: 128 Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTR (Wicked red)

   #9 10th April 2010, 23:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tonto_VTR is the top picture not of your back box? its fucked. also main dealer for parts = rip off!

   It is, but now that I've removed all the rust and cleaned it up, it's fine underneath; most of the crap seen on that top picture was from the exhaust section. I'm not sure it's a standard back box anyway, has Stelco written on it and is stainless steel. Don't know anything about this kind of stuff though.
10. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #10 10th April 2010, 23:55

    atm you just need a centre section and a new clamp but your current bacbox is nearly shot tbh
11. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #11 11th April 2010, 00:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Keeley It is, but now that I've removed all the rust and cleaned it up, it's fine underneath; most of the crap seen on that top picture was from the exhaust section. I'm not sure it's a standard back box anyway, has Stelco written on it and is stainless steel. Don't know anything about this kind of stuff though.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gaz4399 atm you just need a centre section and a new clamp but your current bacbox is nearly shot tbh

    
    for the price of a backbox, just get one.
    what centre and box.. id pay all of 40-50 quid for both tbh.
12. Keeley Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leicestershire Posts: 128 Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTR (Wicked red)

    #12 11th April 2010, 00:05

    Cheers for the replies guys. Any recommendations for centre sections/back boxes? I'm not really wanting to rapidly increase the cost of my insurance; I've got a policy in my name on a provisional licence, so they wont treat me kindly
13. Saxo-SX Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Ireland Posts: 2282

    #13 11th April 2010, 00:18

    You will probably get hammerd for putting a non-standard backbox on. I do anyway with every insurer Ive tried.
    
    I'd ring your insurance up and enquire before buying anything
14. Keeley Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leicestershire Posts: 128 Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTR (Wicked red)

    #14 11th April 2010, 00:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxo-SX You will probably get hammerd for putting a non-standard backbox on. I do anyway with every insurer Ive tried. I'd ring your insurance up and enquire before buying anything

    Yeh I will do, thanks! I'm pretty sure I'm just going to have to go standard, as much as I want to upgrade
15. sammyd Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 Belfast Northern Ireland Posts: 2739 2 citroen saxos 1.1 mk1's blue and a black and or

    #15 11th April 2010, 00:48

    i hate the stupid standard exhausts there so gay hai