Mocal Oil Cooler

1. rapid86 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 248 VTS

   #1 16th April 2010, 11:07

   I've searched some threads and found that the best bet for an oil cooler is a thermostatic sandwich plate so it only cools the oil when it reaches a certain temperature
   
   Is the standard mocal kit one a thermostatic or is it just permanently open?
   
   Sorry if thats a stupid question
2. SaxoMuffin Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Reading Posts: 2045 iTB'd MK2 VTR

   #2 16th April 2010, 12:19

   iirc the standard kit does not have the thermostatic it is an optional extra when purchased..
3. gsavill90 Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Skipton/Loughborough Posts: 1959 VW Bora TDI

   #3 16th April 2010, 12:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin iirc the standard kit does not have the thermostatic it is an optional extra when purchased..

   +1
   
   The thermostat sandwich plates cost around £20 extra by the look of things...
4. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

   #4 16th April 2010, 12:37

   okay sorry to highjack, i know obv the oil cooler cools the oil thus lowering engine temp but does it physically increase power or torque or does it just run smoother ??
5. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #5 16th April 2010, 12:38

   i have one for sale, complete with braided lines AND a sandwhich plate, if anyone is intrested
6. gsavill90 Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Skipton/Loughborough Posts: 1959 VW Bora TDI

   #6 16th April 2010, 12:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB okay sorry to highjack, i know obv the oil cooler cools the oil thus lowering engine temp but does it physically increase power or torque or does it just run smoother ??

   I believe that by keeping oil cooler it helps maintain oil pressure. Hot oil doesn't flow so well.
   It's mainly for cammed and turbo'd engines with raised rev limiters.
7. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

   #7 16th April 2010, 12:54

   Ahh i seee... so basicly unless cammed or turbo'd there's no point in a standard car / saxo ??
8. gsavill90 Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Skipton/Loughborough Posts: 1959 VW Bora TDI

   #8 16th April 2010, 13:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB Ahh i seee... so basicly unless cammed or turbo'd there's no point in a standard car / saxo ??

   Yeh.
   It's mainly for track use anyway.
   I saw a guy with i think it was a 106 turbo that covered the oil cooler with a carbon plate when driving on the road. Overcools the oil or something..
9. rapid86 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 248 VTS

   #9 16th April 2010, 13:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo_89 i have one for sale, complete with braided lines AND a sandwhich plate, if anyone is intrested

   How much mate? Does yours have a thermostatic plate?
10. rapid86 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 248 VTS

    #10 16th April 2010, 13:08

    Oh and thanks for the answers
11. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #11 16th April 2010, 20:42

    we do not supply a kit without the the thermostatic --unless specifically asked to £120+vat
    
    for that very reason --normal diving + cruising would over cool oil
12. Pug106-GTI Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Kent Posts: 755

    #12 17th April 2010, 21:21

    does that mean a thermostatic sandwich plate only lets the oil get to the filter once it reaches a certain temperature too? or only lets it go through the cooler when the temperature has been reached
13. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

    #13 17th April 2010, 21:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pug106-GTI does that mean a thermostatic sandwich plate only lets the oil get to the filter once it reaches a certain temperature too? or only lets it go through the cooler when the temperature has been reached

    It goes to the filter all the time and only opens to the cooler when it reaches 80 degrees if I recall.
14. Pug106-GTI Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Kent Posts: 755

    #14 17th April 2010, 21:42

    oh ok mate
    
    i got a seperate thermostat between my oil lines
    
    come from the sandwich plate to thermostat then to cooler lol all mocal stuff
15. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #15 18th April 2010, 09:24

    pictures of these fit? do you bin the standard vts cooler and pipes?
16. jstroudy Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 huddersfield Posts: 349 saxo vtr

    #16 18th April 2010, 15:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman we do not supply a kit without the the thermostatic --unless specifically asked to £120+vat for that very reason --normal diving + cruising would over cool oil

    do these fit on the mk2 vtr with the oil filter being at the front of the engine?