Oh ####! Dashboard

1. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #1 17th April 2010, 11:22

   Ok, im not usually the kind to make foolish mistakes. But i my have discovered a grave error in my saxo project. The cage is all welded in and is NOT moving. However.. this is the good bit.... the dash is [I]not[I] in place. Is it still possible to get the dash in position with the cage in place???
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2. Railroader Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx

   #2 17th April 2010, 16:10

   why have you put a roll cage in it?
3. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #3 17th April 2010, 16:14

   Computer says no
4. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

   #4 17th April 2010, 16:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Railroader why have you put a roll cage in it?

   incase he rolls it.
   
   you may need to do a wee bit of measuring and cut small sections out of the dash to avoid the bars. either that or make a custom one or leave it out to save that extra weight.
5. user_31231 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150

   #5 17th April 2010, 16:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Railroader why have you put a roll cage in it?

   becuase am guessing he will use it for track and road use
   
   i think you should be able to get the dash back it maybe very tight but looks like it will go in my need someone to help hold the dash up towards the roof and drop it in from the top
6. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #6 17th April 2010, 16:20

   Is it wrong of me to laugh? =\
7. billytalbott Established Member Joined: May 2009 Near Loughborough Posts: 2152 Mk2 Flat Arch

   #7 17th April 2010, 16:41

   you could get the window screen taken out bit more room to put the dash in?
8. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #8 17th April 2010, 16:43

   Trust me, it won't go unless you cut some of the edges away
9. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #9 17th April 2010, 18:20

   Yeah it's fine to laugh lol. And i was thinking it'll probably go with some cutting. If not then it should slide in with the windscreen removed
10. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #10 17th April 2010, 18:24

    It should go with some cutting hopefully. And it must be possible as shell rally saxo's that are built from scratch have the cage welded in to start with without the dash. I will find some way around it.
11. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #11 17th April 2010, 18:39

    Ok i haven't moved the steering column out of the way yet, but it isn't looking too good. I can cut to make it go, but where i need to cut are where the two metal support brackets are???????? The only option i can think of is cut it, make some new brackets, fit it, then plastic weld the gaps. Unless anybody has any serious suggestions??
12. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #12 17th April 2010, 18:44

    mate i feel for you, i really do. Such a bad feeling when things like this happen.
    
    i would personally cut it into sections and plastic weld the gaps like you said. It might not look pretty but face it, track car's arent meant to be!!
    
    Can always sand down the welds to neaten them up
    
    Tom
13. samfenna Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 meols, wirral Posts: 1126 02 furio, polo 6n

    #13 17th April 2010, 18:46

    it doesnt cut that far into the dash does it?
14. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #14 17th April 2010, 18:56

    Your biggest obstacle even if you get the screen out is going to be the steering column. The 2 supports can be removed, then re rivetted back into place though
15. user_15266 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 N.DEVON Posts: 2558 Pair of Crutches atm!

    #15 17th April 2010, 18:57

    ooops! fit a home made dash tbh!
16. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #16 17th April 2010, 19:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by holdawayt mate i feel for you, i really do. Such a bad feeling when things like this happen. Thanks mate, the first real hiccup of the project. Tom

    And yeah the steering column is easy, just 3 bolts and uv joint. The bracket is the real problem. It is flush with the edge of the dash. I think i will cut nust to the left of the glovebox, then weld the two parts back together once in place. This means i can still use the oem bracket.
    I will get pics up in a second
17. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #17 17th April 2010, 19:27

    This is the bracket
    
    
    And this is the plan. I have measured the resulting section and it will fit between the cage.
    
18. VTRelite Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Gloucester Posts: 3000 Citroen Saxo VTR Renault 5

    #18 17th April 2010, 20:00

    Who needs a dash? Rev counter and petrol is all you need
19. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #19 17th April 2010, 20:07

    Gauges are pricey though
20. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #20 17th April 2010, 20:13

    Another option would be to finish the edges and then make brackets to rivet the section together. This will allow me to remove the dash without having to cut through the welds again if i need to
21. samfenna Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 meols, wirral Posts: 1126 02 furio, polo 6n

    #21 17th April 2010, 20:16

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=271916 check out this guys dash towards the bottom of the page... maybe a good idea?
22. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #22 17th April 2010, 20:21

    It does look good, but mounting all the heater stuff and that would be a lot of hassle