do i need a new driveshaft?

1. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #1 18th April 2010, 16:05

   recently my car is making a squeaking sound and it pulls to the right when accelerating and the car shakes to high heaven when i pull off (its fine when i reverse though), i just got under the car and saw that the cv boot (?) has come loose and spat grease everywhere, do i need a new shaft or this one fixed?
   
   cheers
2. adam661 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 chesterfield (ish) Posts: 2685 icelandic grey 53 vt

   #2 18th April 2010, 16:10

   new shaft id say mine has done the same and pulls to 1 side more
3. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #3 18th April 2010, 16:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adam661 new shaft id say mine has done the same and pulls to 1 side more

   it shakes ridiculously when i pull off tho, this might not have anything to do with teh shaft though, i noticed the engine is slightly on the piss on the right hand side i think my gearbox mount may have snapped
4. gavswav_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Scotland Posts: 104 Saxo

   #4 18th April 2010, 16:37

   sounds like you need a new driveshaft.i had the same problem with the cv slipping off the hub, after that it started to make a cracking noise on full lock, i fixed mine the other day basically got under the car and refilled the cv boot with grease and sealed the gaiter back to the hub with two hose clips and its solved my problem. if your saying its squealing its probably time for a new driveshaft. how long has it been like that mate?
5. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #5 18th April 2010, 16:46

   Since the clip that holds the boot on is hanging down you need to either get a garage to repair it or buy a new shaft from GSF/eurocarparts
   
   EDIT - If it's an OE shaft try get it repaired as they are better than cheaper ones
6. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #6 18th April 2010, 17:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bickerton Since the clip that holds the boot on is hanging down you need to either get a garage to repair it or buy a new shaft from GSF/eurocarparts EDIT - If it's an OE shaft try get it repaired as they are better than cheaper ones

   cheers ill take it to a garage tomorrow i think, im guessing its alright to drive on, as the only thing ill be damaging is the shaft? i only ask as i should be going down to see KrisB to get new suspension/bushes and brakes fitted and i might as well get him to fix/replace the shaft if i can get it to him, i live about 80 miles away from him do you think i should take the chance and drive it there? its all mainly M40/M25 so i shouldn't be stopping and pulling off often
7. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #7 18th April 2010, 17:13

   If i'm honest, you could probably repair that yourself with some grease and a jubilee clip aslong as the joint hasn't dried out and the clip has merely fell off w/o damaging the boot
8. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #8 18th April 2010, 17:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bickerton If i'm honest, you could probably repair that yourself with some grease and a jubilee clip aslong as the joint hasn't dried out and the clip has merely fell off w/o damaging the boot

   im fed up with playing cars now and if KrisB is gonna be taking my suspension apart i might as well just get him to do it i have another 2 piece drive shaft from a s1 106 xsi 16v! i just hope its the right one as there are two different kinds arent there? so basically i just wanna get the car to him
9. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #9 18th April 2010, 18:06

   Yeah you got flat and tapered shafts.
   Toi replace them you also need gearbox oil and possibly seals
10. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #10 18th April 2010, 18:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bickerton Yeah you got flat and tapered shafts. Toi replace them you also need gearbox oil and possibly seals

    ive got some g/box oil from when i did the 16v conversion, do they look significantly different? ie if i put a picture up would some be able to tell me if they are the same shafts? do you know which ones a mk1 vtr would have came with? then i can put a pic up of the 106 one ive got, and i should know 100% if it'll fit
11. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #11 18th April 2010, 18:17

    
    
    Tapered at top flat at bottom
12. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #12 18th April 2010, 18:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bickerton Tapered at top flat at bottom

    cheers for that! the 106 one ive got is a flat one (the shorter one), so i just need to find out weather my vtr needs a flat or tapered one thanks
13. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #13 18th April 2010, 18:22

    i think they are mostly flat pre 2000?
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 18th April 2010, 18:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bickerton i think they are mostly flat pre 2000?

    that would be awesome if thats true mines a 1998, ive tried having a look but the last person to put my driveshaft nut on, hammered it in pretty well!
15. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #15 18th April 2010, 18:28

    taking the centrecap off and looking may be enough
16. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #16 18th April 2010, 18:40

    I believe the changeover was some time in 1999. So before '99 they should be flat.
17. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #17 18th April 2010, 18:48

    i just looked, it looks as if my vtr one is a tapered one
    
    vtr
    
    106
    
18. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #18 18th April 2010, 18:50

    Impossible to tell without taking it out of the hub.
19. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #19 18th April 2010, 18:56

    the ends to me look completely different, or would that just be because they are made by different companies
20. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #20 18th April 2010, 18:59

    It has nothing to do with the thread.
    
    It's the part that meets with the bearing (at the back of the hub). The difference in thread just determines what hub nut you need. The longer thread requires a thick hub nut, the short thread requires a thin hub nut. They both have grooves in so the nut can be staked in place.
21. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #21 18th April 2010, 19:05

    cheers, now i know where im looking! lol the 106 one ive got is definitely flat