Important! : Gearbox is fine! Another problem, wont select a gear when engine on! look inside please. #7

1. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

   #1 21st April 2010, 10:00

   Right bought a 106 gti the other day which needed a few things to make to perfect.
   
   Although i didnt think it would need a new gear box! well i think it does anyway lmao.
   
   The 'sway' in nutral is VERY short and close.
   It doesnt always go into 1st or 2nd!
   Got into work this morning and it would go into 5th or Reverse?!!! (not the gear, the acutal 5th/Reverse line.)
   Gave it a tug and it no goes in....BUT....it doesnt go into 1st/2nd!
   
   Anyone no what it could be?
   
   Selector?
   
   New gearbox all together?
   
   Any help would be great
   
   Tom
2. 5trudd3rs Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 217 Saxo VTR MK2

   #2 21st April 2010, 10:22

   I had this problem in mine mate. Unfortunatley the bearing has probably collapsed on your lay gear. Yeah new gearbox time. Should be able to get one for around 120 quid from a decent salvage yard. Tbh mate i wouldn't continue to drive far until it has a new box as i still drove mine when it did exactly what yours has done and then found my self only able to use 3rd gear. No movement in the gearstick at all which meant i completely cooked a new clutch as well.

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3. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

   #3 21st April 2010, 10:31

   cheers mate
   
   not really what i wanted to hear but hey ho. lol
4. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

   #4 21st April 2010, 10:38

   http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...d.php?t=142073
   
   pow, was gonna have it but he didnt reply in time

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5. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

   #5 21st April 2010, 11:01

   Ive enquired about that box, cheers Chis
6. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

   #6 21st April 2010, 11:11

   no probs
7. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

   #7 23rd April 2010, 08:54

   Right all the above problem was due to the garage putting 2 of the gear linkages on the wrong way around!! lmao
   
   So the box is fine, spoke to the previous owner and he said that its a £300 reconditioned one. How true that is i do not know!!
   
   So....Box all good driving all good
   
   UNTILL
   
   NO gears atal!! WTF!!
   
   Sometimes it will not go into ANY gear.
   I stop turn the engine off and POW the gears work fine.
   Carry on driving down the road and again it will not select ANY gear. Turn engine off and its fine!
   
   
   Please Sax-P, what is wrong with it? lol
   
   Tom
8. Davo106 Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Corwen, North Wales. Posts: 1963 Megane R26

   #8 23rd April 2010, 09:04

   It has car aids.
9. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

   #9 23rd April 2010, 09:12

   Sounds like more hassle than its worth mate just buy a new gearbox?
10. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

    #10 23rd April 2010, 09:23

    Ive been thinking that tbh
    
    Ive been told that there could be some sort of liquid on the clute plate causing it not to work!!
11. 5trudd3rs Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 217 Saxo VTR MK2

    #11 23rd April 2010, 11:48

    Davo106, hahahahahaha
12. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

    #12 23rd April 2010, 12:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davo106 It has car aids.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 5trudd3rs Davo106, hahahahahaha

    No help guys
13. fossie Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 Spennymoor, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3742 Saxo MK2 VTS

    #13 23rd April 2010, 12:02

    Could it not be a fucked clutch Tom
14. 5trudd3rs Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 217 Saxo VTR MK2

    #14 23rd April 2010, 12:11

    Sounds like an internal bearing mate. Is there any grinding chattery kind of noise coming from the gearbox when in neutral on idle with foot of clutch?
15. dt_ Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Huddersfield Posts: 393 Zx volcane td Peugeot 205 1600 auto

    #15 23rd April 2010, 12:24

    check that the clutch cable is tight enough, if not you wont be fully disengaging the clutch and it will still be in gear. dont go buying a gearbox until youve checked this, if the garage bodged the linkages they may well have titted this up too
16. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

    #16 23rd April 2010, 12:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fossie Could it not be a fucked clutch Tom

    It could well be but i have a recipt of a new clutch kit.
    Who knows if it had been fitted! lol
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 5trudd3rs Sounds like an internal bearing mate. Is there any grinding chattery kind of noise coming from the gearbox when in neutral on idle with foot of clutch?

    Well when driving and i left the accelarator up and its rolling in gear there is somesort of gringing noise. When i press the accelerator in it stops!!
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dt_ check that the clutch cable is tight enough, if not you wont be fully disengaging the clutch and it will still be in gear. dont go buying a gearbox until youve checked this, if the garage bodged the linkages they may well have titted this up too

    
    Thanks mate, i shall have a look
17. turbomad2b3 L-plater Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 47

    #17 23rd April 2010, 12:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom Well when driving and i left the accelarator up and its rolling in gear there is somesort of gringing noise. When i press the accelerator in it stops!!

    sounds like the gearbox diff bearings, its happened to 2 of mine, im sure when you cant hear it anymore (when accelerator is pressed) is only due to engine noise drowning it out. Try coasting in neutral .
18. dt_ Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Huddersfield Posts: 393 Zx volcane td Peugeot 205 1600 auto

    #18 23rd April 2010, 13:21

    the grinding noise is almost certainly your intermediate release bearing on your o/s driveshaft
19. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #19 23rd April 2010, 13:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dt_ the grinding noise is almost certainly your intermediate release bearing on your o/s driveshaft

    i bet its not
20. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

    #20 23rd April 2010, 14:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM i bet its not

    What you think it is Lee?
    
    Im going to the garage this after noon anyway to see what they say.
21. dt_ Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Huddersfield Posts: 393 Zx volcane td Peugeot 205 1600 auto

    #21 24th April 2010, 20:04

    well it could be. see if you can post a clip of the noise on here so we can hear it
22. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #22 24th April 2010, 20:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom What you think it is Lee? Im going to the garage this after noon anyway to see what they say.

    sorry, i have no idea theres too much it could be. i was just saying theres no such thing as an intermediate release bearing lol
23. dt_ Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Huddersfield Posts: 393 Zx volcane td Peugeot 205 1600 auto

    #23 24th April 2010, 20:26

    lol why did i put that? what the hell is that? i meant intermediate bearing that supports the heavier VT o/s driveshaft half way down, i think i may have left that post late on in the evening when my brain was tired!
24. ashalex Newbie Joined: Jan 2009 Derbyshire Posts: 23 1998 reg Citroen saxo vtr cherry red- standard. 2

    #24 25th April 2010, 14:48

    sounds alot more clutch related 2 me pal i had the same problem an found out wen i stripped the box off it was a pressure spring that had broke off the clutchplate it wud let me select gears wen the engine was of but as soon as i started it ther was nothing, aslo check the clutch cable that its tight enuf this can also cause the problem, if not cut ur losses an but a new box.
25. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #25 25th April 2010, 18:22

    this was happenin to mine then the release bearing shatterd and i had no clutch the garage said it was caused by a groove around the input shaft