Harness Fitting & Best Place to Fix to.

1. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #1 28th April 2010, 16:02

   As above,
   
   I have some TRS 4 point harnesses and wondered if anyone could let me know which bolts i will need to fit them and also best place to fix the harness bolts to as i have seen people locate them in different places but want to have them fixed to the safest and most effective place.
   
   Thanks
   
   Dan
2. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

   #2 28th April 2010, 16:09

   when i had 4 point harness's i fitted the 2 straps to the seat/seatbelt mounts in the rear using the bolts from the seatbelts, in the fron people do it differently, i personally drilled a hole through the transmission tunnel and fitted a bolt through and a fia nut/plate on the outside and the side nearest door i fitted it to 1 of the holes that hold the rail at the bottom of standard seatbelts
3. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #3 28th April 2010, 16:12

   ok cheers mate, i did a search but am still a little confused.
   
   anyone got any pictures or diagrams?
4. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

   #4 28th April 2010, 16:14

   are you taking rear seats out? if so once you have the rear becomes very easy to understand/do
5. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #5 28th April 2010, 16:14

   full interior is already out, will be removing carpet this weekend.
6. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #6 28th April 2010, 16:16

   This is how i have setup my six points. And used a harness bar on the cage to dot he shoulder straps, but the rear seatbelt holes are what you need.
   
7. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #7 28th April 2010, 16:16

   Photo was taken at sunset so excuse the shadows ruining the pic a bit
8. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

   #8 28th April 2010, 16:16

   rears will come very apparent to you once you go to fit harness's, fronts aree the same tbh, i never looked at any diagrams or anything when i fitted mine
9. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #9 28th April 2010, 16:30

   lovely cheers adam, those 2 eyebolts are for the lap straps correct? did you have to drill the hole in the transmission tunnel or was it already there?
   
   the 2 for the rear, could they be paired together and placed in one bolt?
10. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #10 28th April 2010, 16:31

    don't place 2 together in the rear, might aswell of got 3 point if you did that and it isn't the safest option
    
    you'll need to drill hole in trans tunnel
11. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #11 28th April 2010, 16:33

    ok no worries, is there 4 bolts in the rear to bolt each strap to?
    
    ok i will drill a hole and get a decent spec bolt for the underside.
12. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #12 28th April 2010, 16:34

    Drilling a hole in the tunnel would be the easiest way, i welded my fia bolt plates in.
    What do you mean about the lap straps?
13. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #13 28th April 2010, 16:34

    Make sure you plate behind if your drilling the hole, the shell itself wont be strong enough
14. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #14 28th April 2010, 16:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dan-Subtle ok no worries, is there 4 bolts in the rear to bolt each strap to? ok i will drill a hole and get a decent spec bolt for the underside.

    not sure on saxo, i fitted mine in a fiesta but surely you can see if your stripped out
    
    also get on ebay and get 2 fia spreader plate/bolts for the other side of hole
15. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #15 28th April 2010, 16:36

    the 2 eyebolts in your picture above, they are where the lap straps bolt/clip to are they?
16. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #16 28th April 2010, 16:36

    something along the lines of these
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-BELT-BOLT...item1e5b206ee3
17. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #17 28th April 2010, 16:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dan-Subtle the 2 eyebolts in your picture above, they are where the lap straps bolt/clip to are they?

    yes thats right

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18. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #18 28th April 2010, 16:40

    There are 4. Forget the 2 front ones that are close together. They are for the 5th and 6th point.
    The other two top and bottom of the pic are the places you need to use

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19. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #19 28th April 2010, 16:59

    ok thanks. yes what i meant it the 2 that you pictured top and bottom are for the lap straps and the straps which go through the top of the seat will fix somewhere in the rear?
20. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #20 28th April 2010, 17:06

    Yes, thats all right. And there are enough points at the back. One is up high and the other is down low. I think that's how others have done it
21. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #21 28th April 2010, 17:15

    ok thanks adam.
    
    so for the 4 points in the rear i could use the upper seatbelt bolt (near the rear window) and the lower seat belt bolt (where the rear belt buckle bolts to)
22. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #22 28th April 2010, 17:25

    Yeah, Take a look through the progress threads and find someone with 4 points without a cage