Bad Piper backbox

1. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

   #1 28th April 2010, 20:20

   I bought a Piper backbox yesterday and attempted to fit it today, only to find that the section of pipe that connects the box to the centrepipe is about 75mm too short and kinked at an odd angle. It sounds stupid but just wanted to make sure; this isn't the correct box is it? Surely Piper boxes can't be THIS badly fitted??
2. Ben69 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Nottingham Posts: 149 Blue Saxo Furio 2002

   #2 28th April 2010, 20:26

   i fitted mine today and its fine. you centre pipe could be to short...
3. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

   #3 28th April 2010, 20:28

   It's a supersprint centrepipe, should be ok i think...still doesn't explain the weird angle it's kinked at though
4. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

   #4 28th April 2010, 20:35

   So basically I'm wondering if they have sent the wrong backbox or if the supersprint centre section is too short...anyone?
5. samfenna Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 meols, wirral Posts: 1126 02 furio, polo 6n

   #5 28th April 2010, 20:46

   the supersprint will most probably be designed to fit supersprint and standard backboxes, and not ones from competitors, go and get it welded at your local garage, its what i did to my peco, far better imo too, no exhaust paste!
6. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

   #6 28th April 2010, 20:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by samfenna the supersprint will most probably be designed to fit supersprint and standard backboxes, and not ones from competitors, go and get it welded at your local garage, its what i did to my peco, far better imo too, no exhaust paste!

   It fitted with my Ashley backbox OK and the pipe at the back of that box is shaped differently...which makes me wonder if Piper sent the wrong one!
7. Lewis Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Middlesbrough/Coventry Posts: 3808 Megane 225

   #7 28th April 2010, 20:54

   Call them and confirm that you have the corect box then
8. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

   #8 28th April 2010, 20:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by L_E_W_I_S Call them and confirm that you have the corect box then

   I'm going to in the morning mate, just wondered if anyone had a similar experience on here first
9. S8TTG Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Bournemouth Posts: 927 Saxo 16v Track Furio

   #9 28th April 2010, 21:02

   ive got a piper on standard centre section and it fits perfectly, sounds like you may have the wrong one! Give them a bell just to confirm!
10. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #10 28th April 2010, 21:20

    Pics? Sounds like you have the wrong centre section (they changed the length of the VTS CAT in 2001) as the Piper backboxes fit onto pretty much any centre pipe.
11. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

    #11 28th April 2010, 21:24

    Where did you get the piper from just out of interest?
12. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #12 28th April 2010, 21:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chris_furio Where did you get the piper from just out of interest?

    I got it from rallynuts, and they got it direct from Piper. I've got pics of the Piper now:
    
    
    
    
13. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #13 28th April 2010, 21:34

    That backbox is fine and should fit any centre pipe.
    
    The centre pipe you have is the wrong one for your car.
14. dustcapart Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Whitstable Posts: 232 mk1 green VTR

    #14 28th April 2010, 21:37

    my piper centre section is about the same too short to run from the cat to my twin back boxes and also kinked maybe the piper decat is extra long or we have the stretch saxos
15. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #15 28th April 2010, 21:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH That backbox is fine and should fit any centre pipe. The centre pipe you have is the wrong one for your car.

    Ah balls...thanks for the help mate, would a standard centrepipe be OK with the piper?
16. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #16 29th April 2010, 00:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by luke1988 Ah balls...thanks for the help mate, would a standard centrepipe be OK with the piper?

    As long as it's the right centre pipe for the car mate. What model/ year is it?
17. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #17 29th April 2010, 08:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH As long as it's the right centre pipe for the car mate. What model/ year is it?

    I think I may have found the problem...the Piper is for 1996-2000 1.4, whereas I have a 2002 1.4
18. Ben69 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Nottingham Posts: 149 Blue Saxo Furio 2002

    #18 29th April 2010, 21:07

    iv gt 1 on my 2002 furio and its fine
19. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #19 29th April 2010, 23:27

    What decat pipe you using (to extend it to the manifold). Sounds like the one you have is for an earlier model with the shorter CAT.
20. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #20 30th April 2010, 15:20

    OK I've come to the bottom of this...I have a supersprint centre pipe for 2001 models onwards. The Piper backbox I ordered is for 1996-2000 models, which explains why the small section of pipe at the back of the box is too short. I've been in contact with the guys I bought it from and they are sending me the same backbox but for 2001 models onwards. Basically I ordered the wrong one lol
21. Ben69 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Nottingham Posts: 149 Blue Saxo Furio 2002

    #21 1st May 2010, 10:08

    my backbox is exactly the same as the 1 in the pic and it fits str8 onto my 2002 furio. iv gt a supersprint centre pipe 2
22. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #22 1st May 2010, 11:34

    the backbox is the same from 1997-2003 saxos, the only changed are with manis and centre sections. if this backbox doesnt fit then the next one they send you wont fit either.
    your cat is in your manifold isnt it? and your supersprint runs straight from the mani to the backbox?
23. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #23 1st May 2010, 14:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM the backbox is the same from 1997-2003 saxos, the only changed are with manis and centre sections. if this backbox doesnt fit then the next one they send you wont fit either. your cat is in your manifold isnt it? and your supersprint runs straight from the mani to the backbox?

    Yeah the supersprint runs from the manifold to the backbox, and the cat is in the mani...i don't see your point though because the supersrpint centrepipe is the exact same length as the standard one I had on. Also my Ashley backbox fitted perfectly to the supersprint centrepipe (it wasn't too short or too long). Also, if the backbox is the same for all years, why do most manufacturers make boxes from 1996-2000 and for 2001 onwards?
24. Ben69 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Nottingham Posts: 149 Blue Saxo Furio 2002

    #24 1st May 2010, 18:05

    i dont understand why yours doesnt fit... im confused
25. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #25 1st May 2010, 19:41

    Got any pictures of where the centre pipe ends - i.e. where the backbox connects?
26. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #26 2nd May 2010, 12:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH Got any pictures of where the centre pipe ends - i.e. where the backbox connects?

    No sorry mate I sent the backbox back yesterday. This is really confusing me now! I suppose I will have to wait until the new one gets here and just see how it goes
27. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #27 2nd May 2010, 12:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by luke1988 No sorry mate I sent the backbox back yesterday. This is really confusing me now! I suppose I will have to wait until the new one gets here and just see how it goes

    You've returned the backbox even though it's fine?
28. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #28 2nd May 2010, 18:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH You've returned the backbox even though it's fine?

    No...I sent it back because it was a backbox for 1996-2000 models, whereas I need one for 2001 onwards models. This was before people started saying that this doesn't matter and that I have the wrong centrepipe. So now I am waiting for them to send me another backbox for 2001 onwards models
29. Ben69 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Nottingham Posts: 149 Blue Saxo Furio 2002

    #29 2nd May 2010, 19:58

    you have the wrong centre pipe because i have a supersprint backbox and a piper back box and its fine. my back box is exactly the same as urs and its on my 2002 furio
30. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #30 2nd May 2010, 19:59

    We've already said mate, all Piper backboxes are the same. The variation is in the length of the centre pipe/ CAT!

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31. Ben69 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Nottingham Posts: 149 Blue Saxo Furio 2002

    #31 2nd May 2010, 20:00

    *supersprint centre pipe
32. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #32 3rd May 2010, 18:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH We've already said mate, all Piper backboxes are the same. The variation is in the length of the centre pipe/ CAT!

    I know! But I'm still confused as to why my old Ashley backbox fitted fine with the Supersprint centrepipe!!
33. Ben69 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Nottingham Posts: 149 Blue Saxo Furio 2002

    #33 9th May 2010, 12:53

    i know what the problem is m8! you can adjust the length of supersprint centre pipes. the are two bolts in the middle of it, loosen them then pull it apart abit and it will fit! thats what i did with mine