406 Brembo's - No squeel

1. user_23964 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 South Wales Posts: 477 Cherry Red 106 Gti

   #1 6th May 2010, 16:58

   A lot of people have been asking me how I got on with my Xantia discs 283mm Part No. SG2690 from http://www.buypartsby.co.uk (I had to ring them as they were not on their website) Well after a bit of trouble with my MC its all fitted, and touch wood so far done about 50miles and no squeel!
   
   Standard GTi Brakes
   
   
   406 Brembos
   

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2. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

   #2 6th May 2010, 17:03

   they worked a treat for me back in the day!
3. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

   #3 6th May 2010, 17:10

   Why do the 406 discs squeel anyway?
4. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #4 6th May 2010, 18:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Morgzc Why do the 406 discs squeel anyway?

   they do it on the 406 coupe!
   At least mine does
5. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #5 6th May 2010, 18:29

   its something to do with the width of the discs, think most are a certain width u the aboves are slightly diff causing it not to squeel
6. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #6 6th May 2010, 19:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Morgzc Why do the 406 discs squeel anyway?

   i think people are getting a little confused when you fit 406 brakes to a saxo, the 406 discs physically wont fit, its the 206 gti 180 discs that people use which squeak, as said its the xantia discs that dont squeal, also apparently you can get 283mm discs off a 405 ?? that don't squeal
7. manc Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207

   #7 6th May 2010, 21:44

   Awesome stuff Jak, seems like I've been waiting ages for someone to actually confirm all the stuff being bantered around on which disc to use & not use etc etc, its great to see these calipers fitted and tested finally!
   
   I can see buypartby seeing a few more order for these disc's
   
   Just a side note could you confirm which pads you went for & how they perform over standard brake's?
   
   Many thanks for the PM updates also
   
   ManC
   
   PS:This thread gets my vote to replace the outdated sticky ref Brembo calipers & disc combo
8. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #8 6th May 2010, 21:51

   i dont think there is anything wrong with the old stickey, it tells you which discs to use to stop the squeal, and all the other info is good
9. manc Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207

   #9 6th May 2010, 21:55

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeffchiz i dont think there is anything wrong with the old stickey, it tells you which discs to use to stop the squeal, and all the other info is good

   The part no listed on that thread is wrong...
   
   There is a pic on this one, maybe merging them somehow is a better step forward...
10. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #10 6th May 2010, 22:03

    meh part numbers you dont need themmmm ha
    
    get in contact with the author of the old thread and ask them to edit the post and put this info in
11. user_23964 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 South Wales Posts: 477 Cherry Red 106 Gti

    #11 6th May 2010, 22:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by manc Awesome stuff Jak, seems like I've been waiting ages for someone to actually confirm all the stuff being bantered around on which disc to use & not use etc etc, its great to see these calipers fitted and tested finally! I can see buypartby seeing a few more order for these disc's Just a side note could you confirm which pads you went for & how they perform over standard brake's? Many thanks for the PM updates also ManC PS:This thread gets my vote to replace the outdated sticky ref Brembo calipers & disc combo

    I have just used standard 406 pads, definatly an improvement in braking and I think they are still bedding in worth the money! Also I used an eezi bleed kit to bleed the system got it done really quickly great piece of kit!!
12. manc Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207

    #12 6th May 2010, 22:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jak_Vts I have just used standard 406 pads, definatly an improvement in braking and I think they are still bedding in worth the money! Also I used an eezi bleed kit to bleed the system got it done really quickly great piece of kit!!

    Standard pads as in 'not dealer' & Mintex or somthing?
    
    Made a mental note to bleed them with the Eezi bleed kit
    
    Cheers
13. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #13 6th May 2010, 22:25

    
    
    1000 miles - no squeal.
14. manc Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207

    #14 6th May 2010, 22:27

    LOL same part no as the original post!!! cool!!! purchased via buypartby???
15. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #15 6th May 2010, 22:36

    er, i *think* so. Was a few months back, but iirc, yep
16. user_23964 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 South Wales Posts: 477 Cherry Red 106 Gti

    #16 6th May 2010, 22:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by manc Standard pads as in 'not dealer' & Mintex or somthing? Made a mental note to bleed them with the Eezi bleed kit Cheers

    Not 100% on that one, I was told when I bought them they we're just standard 40f pads so I assume they are the ones supplied by the dealer, but what they are I have no idea!
17. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #17 6th May 2010, 22:59

    perfect timing with this mate, ive just ordered some 283mm xantia discs to go with mine so its good to know they work
18. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #18 6th May 2010, 23:38

    ive got drilled grooved and vented xantia 288mm discs on mine, pretty sure theyre gonna squeel and im gonna go acka!!
19. user_23964 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 South Wales Posts: 477 Cherry Red 106 Gti

    #19 7th May 2010, 13:42

    glad this is useful, have put up a picture just to show the difference between standard
20. manc Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207

    #20 7th May 2010, 14:44

    Ordered my disc's & Mintex pads (MDB1882) from buycarpartsby now
    
    I'll try and get some pics of the difference between 244mm disc's & 283mm disc's
    
    Jak do you have the 15" TD Pro 1.2's? I'm trying to figure out whether or not its worth spending £110 on hubcentric spacers or get a set of alloys that will fit over the calipers...
    
    ManC
21. user_23964 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 South Wales Posts: 477 Cherry Red 106 Gti

    #21 7th May 2010, 15:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by manc Ordered my disc's & Mintex pads (MDB1882) from buycarpartsby now I'll try and get some pics of the difference between 244mm disc's & 283mm disc's Jak do you have the 15" TD Pro 1.2's? I'm trying to figure out whether or not its worth spending £110 on hubcentric spacers or get a set of alloys that will fit over the calipers... ManC

    Ye ther 15's literally a few mm between the wheels and the caliper! I think it depends on the spokes around the caliper rather than the size of the wheel I did read somwher wher somone couldn't get ther 17's over the caliper!
22. ollie-vt- Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Nottingham Posts: 341 Saxo 16v VTR

    #22 8th May 2010, 15:15

    not trying to burst anyones bubble here, but my brembo's didnt start squeeling til about 1000miles of using them. I was well happy for just over a week lol, then the skreeching came....
23. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #23 8th May 2010, 15:58

    Almost 2k on mine - pads bedded in fully. No squeal. But then I'm using 405 discs, not xantia discs.
    
    (For the record, the 405 discs i run are the same as 306 gti-6 discs)
24. ollie-vt- Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Nottingham Posts: 341 Saxo 16v VTR

    #24 8th May 2010, 17:06

    just to let everyone know, my cars been in the garage today so whilst it was there i asked them to put some copper grease on the pads, and on the drive back - no squeeling... have to see how long its lasts though.
25. Nslade Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Cwmbran, South Wales Posts: 233 Saxo VTR

    #25 8th May 2010, 19:39

    Mate they look sweeeet!!!
26. Jamie Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9363 Focus ST & 206 GTI180

    #26 9th May 2010, 11:20

    Good stuff il be ordering mine in a min
    
    For those ordering Via http://www.buypartsby.co.uk
    
    Use;
    
    as your registration & then select brake discs - standard
    
    SG2690 is the 3rd one down on the list
    
    Xantia discs 283mm
    
    Part Number : SG2690
    Cost : £12.49 + vat
    
    According to the site, the price is per disc but you can only order in pairs.

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27. newqs36 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 swansea Posts: 1356 vts

    #27 9th May 2010, 12:17

    thanks for that jamie i will order some today using that
28. manc Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207

    #28 10th May 2010, 13:41

    Mine have been delivered, same as RossDagley's , probably refering to them as Xantia disc's is wrong?
    
    
29. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #29 13th May 2010, 10:07

    sweeeet i think i will buy me a set of discs and pads today. my 23mm m/c is on its way so i will get them all fitted at the same time. should make a massive difference!
30. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #30 13th May 2010, 10:35

    DSH figured this out about 3 years ago.
31. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #31 13th May 2010, 10:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by manc Ordered my disc's & Mintex pads (MDB1882) from buycarpartsby now I'll try and get some pics of the difference between 244mm disc's & 283mm disc's Jak do you have the 15" TD Pro 1.2's? I'm trying to figure out whether or not its worth spending £110 on hubcentric spacers or get a set of alloys that will fit over the calipers... ManC

    the site always asks for a reg to find you parts.. what reg did you use to buy the pads with? shall i just find a 406 coupe on ebay and use the reg off that?
32. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #32 13th May 2010, 18:12

    get them from here: http://www.brakesint.co.uk/
    
    no reg required.

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33. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #33 14th May 2010, 11:33

    brakes and pads came today... next day delivery!!! ast only one thing, im sure when i fitted my calipers before the pads never had these wires coming out ot them.. have i bought the wrong ones? or can i just snip the wire off??
34. manc Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207

    #34 14th May 2010, 11:35

    Those cables are wear indicators, my OE mintex pads have them as well, iirc they can be sniped
    
    ManC

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35. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #35 14th May 2010, 12:00

    pull them out - they come out without cutting