MOT fail drastically, what shall I do?

1. elliot999 L-plater Joined: May 2009 Southampton Posts: 96 2001 Saxo 1.1i

   #1 6th May 2010, 18:29

   ok so my 1.1 Y reg saxo was all fine till i took it for an MOT today, turns out the following things are wrong.
   
   both windscreen wipers do not clear the windscreen effectively.
   both headlamps aim too low.
   spare wheel carrier insecure.
   both front constant velocity gaiter insecurely mounted to its housing.
   rear join exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases.
   front cat exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases.
   brakes arent good enough.
   
   will cost £491 to repair all of this.
   is there any point fixing this stuff or should i just scrap / sell the car?
2. citroen_saxo_vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Norwich Posts: 2823 Vectra sri 2.6 v6

   #2 6th May 2010, 18:30

   If its worth fixing to you fix it.
3. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

   #3 6th May 2010, 18:33

   is that what they quoted you mate you might be able to do 1 or 2 jobs your self to save a few quid
4. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #4 6th May 2010, 18:36

   you need new wipers £10 diy job
   discs and pads £60 diy job
   cv boot x2 £20 tops fairly easy but could get done at garage if unsure
   
   lights exhaust and cage unsure without seeing but shouldnt cost you too much
5. yetisvtr Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 milton keynes Posts: 334 saxo mk1 vtr in posssiiiii blue

   #5 6th May 2010, 18:36

   fix it yourself,
   pair of window wiper,15 quid
   middle and back box exhaust lets say 70 quid
   pads and discs 50 quid
   cv gaiters 15 quid
   labour £0
   total £150
   
   thats a good saving and its what i think the prices maybe so dont hold me to that,i always do my own stuff saves waiting and you learn new things, just read haynes if your not sure.
6. Lewis Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Middlesbrough/Coventry Posts: 3808 Megane 225

   #6 6th May 2010, 18:37

   Sounds overpriced.
   
   Heres what i would pay worse case senario but you could do the jobs cheaper:
   
   -2x new wipers £7 - ebay
   -Headlamps need adjusting from inside the car or 2x new headlamps £30 - sax-p/ebay
   -Take spare wheel and crade off the car its not needed for MOT
   -Exhaust needs welding £30 - garage labour
   -New disks and pads £40 - eurocarparts/ebay/sax-p
   -Brakes bleeding £30 - garage labour
   -New Driveshafts £74 - eurocarparts (Not shure if this fixes the CV problem)
   -Driveshaft fitting £60 - garage labour
7. Gareth_R Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS

   #7 6th May 2010, 19:07

   all of that can be fixed yourself for muuuuuuuch less than that! you could fit new discs, pads, lights, exhaust, wipers, bleed the brakes, 2 new driveshafts, etc for less than that and i wouldnt mind betting that you dont need brand new of most of that!
   
   just fit new wiper blades, adjust the headlights, remove the spare wheel carrier for the MOT only, check if its just the CV gaitors that are loose, if so use cable ties to secure them, otherwise if they are split then buy the stretchy ones and fit new ones, or go all out and get a decent pair from the scrappy for £60, fit new brake pads and discs on the front, and new shoes on the back, bleed the brakes up, then finally you could probably fit a whole new exhaust system from the downpipe back (cheap parts available online)
   
   easy
8. deans2k8 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 gainsborough Posts: 2337 Vectra 2.0t

   #8 6th May 2010, 19:12

   garage quoted me 800 for the work for my mot,, i spent less than half of tht and fixed it all myself! half the jobs they said didnt need doing i feel like they were trying to rip me off and 2weeks after when i took it in for retest they looked abit pissed off that it passed! theres nothing major there id fix it mate do it yourself its always a good learning point and everyones got to start somewhere
9. aruffell Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Chatham, Kent Posts: 537 1998 Peugeot 106 GTI 1.6

   #9 6th May 2010, 20:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by elliot999 both windscreen wipers do not clear the windscreen effectively. - £5 get aero wipers. both headlamps aim too low. - They should adjust this for you on MOT. spare wheel carrier insecure. - Take spare wheel out for MOT both front constant velocity gaiter insecurely mounted to its housing. rear join exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases. - Gumgum exhaust bandage front cat exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases. - Same as above brakes arent good enough. - £30 - £60

   Easily done
   
   Andy
10. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #10 6th May 2010, 20:49

    thats not much mine had a load of weldin round arches needed doin, brakes were binding, rear brakes no effect, rear brake pipes corroded, headlights out, pads low, handbrake no effect, whhel cage insecure just shove any wheel under with tread on, turned out needed a load sensin valve aswell. got it passed for 180 quid in the end.the birds brothers a welder got him to do that took 4 hours tener an hour plus he had a vtr identical breakin.local garage did rest. been round the vtr checkin it for more rust and undersealed it all for the next mot. is it just mine or do saxos generally rot??
11. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #11 6th May 2010, 21:05

    oh and i got quoted 300 plus by the mot garage. the 180 included the cost of mot aswell so cost me 145
12. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #12 6th May 2010, 21:07

    anyone else with rust problems ???? might make me feel a bit better lol
13. valencia Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 99

    #13 6th May 2010, 21:30

    you could do most of these yourself have you got a haynes manual
14. shannon6460 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Swansea Posts: 426 Too many to list but all the Paxo related one's ar

    #14 6th May 2010, 21:48

    I think its just your car that rusts vtrmann.
15. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #15 6th May 2010, 22:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elliot999 ok so my 1.1 Y reg saxo was all fine till i took it for an MOT today, turns out the following things are wrong. both windscreen wipers do not clear the windscreen effectively. both headlamps aim too low. spare wheel carrier insecure. both front constant velocity gaiter insecurely mounted to its housing. rear join exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases. front cat exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases. brakes arent good enough. will cost £491 to repair all of this. is there any point fixing this stuff or should i just scrap / sell the car?

    Well over priced
    
    Heres what our garage would charge:
    
    MOT - £40
    Headlight aim adjustment - £10 (this is done on the ehadlight units NOT inside the car)
    Exhaust centre section OR back box(only 1 or other by sounds of it not both) - £20
    Cat/Downpipe needswelding or gum gum - £20 at most
    CV Boots x 2 - £15
    Pads & discs - £40
    Spare wheel carrier £5 to secure
    
    Labour - £100 ish
    
    You need to take it to another garage for the repairs and return to the mot station for the free retest.
16. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #16 6th May 2010, 22:05

    there is nothing major in that list
17. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #17 6th May 2010, 23:15

    all sorted in under 100 tbh!
18. user_43830 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Uxbridge - London Posts: 358 Citroen C1 Saxo Westcoast 1.4 Fiat Seciento Abar

    #18 7th May 2010, 05:43

    Mate, as many people have said alot of the things on the list are easy DIY jobs, my MOT fail certificate came back with 3 pages. Bulb enlinements, gaiters split, front bumper insecure, emissions too high etc, see what you can do yourself, and if you havent already invest in a Haynes manual. That'll make life easy, go premium and jump onto the Sax-p Buying and selling sections you can have a browse and put up what you need!! As mentioned my mot fail was epic, there was everything wrong with it, but i did what i could and handed it over to the garage. They did welding, fitted a cat (as there was only a silencer on) etc. In the beginning they quoted me £600-£750. Cost me £360 all in all, exclusive of the initial £50 for the MOT. Its worth it.
    
    Saxo's FTW!!
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrmann anyone else with rust problems ???? might make me feel a bit better lol

    Aye i had a few rust problems with mine. An thats genuine not just to make you feel better mate Haha
19. vtsal Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Amlwch Posts: 156 Saxo VTR

    #19 7th May 2010, 16:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrmann anyone else with rust problems ???? might make me feel a bit better lol

    Mines got to have some welding near the jacking points at the front.
    
    Al
20. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #20 7th May 2010, 20:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtsal Mines got to have some welding near the jacking points at the front. Al

    yea i think they all go there at some time, ive already had passenger side done near jackin point the other needs doin now. and the back arches right at the bottom near inside of wheels, cant really see it unless take wheels off. ive scraped all the loose paint and whatever citreon cover underside of car with off, water gets trapped inside it and starts to rot.then undersdealed all exposed bits.5 quid from halford cheaper than the weldin bill next year.i had a t reg vtr it was a rot box sold it for 750.think all saxos rot
21. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #21 7th May 2010, 20:25

    vtsal i was just wondering what year is your vtr. might be worth gettin some underseal aswell.
22. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #22 7th May 2010, 21:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrmann thats not much mine had a load of weldin round arches needed doin, brakes were binding, rear brakes no effect, rear brake pipes corroded, headlights out, pads low, handbrake no effect, whhel cage insecure just shove any wheel under with tread on, turned out needed a load sensin valve aswell. got it passed for 180 quid in the end.the birds brothers a welder got him to do that took 4 hours tener an hour plus he had a vtr identical breakin.local garage did rest. been round the vtr checkin it for more rust and undersealed it all for the next mot. is it just mine or do saxos generally rot??

    My saxo had rust on the rear inner wings a common place for them to rust
    
    Steve.
23. user_25943 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 suffolk Posts: 1102 saxomk2 vts 2001 blue. owned corsa,fiesta,pug 106,

    #23 9th May 2010, 10:53

    take it to a different garage mate sound like theyre ripping you off
24. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

    #24 9th May 2010, 11:05

    i would say this would cost 100quid max, pair of wiper blades, exhaust paste and some cable ties
25. Railroader Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx

    #25 9th May 2010, 16:20

    Mines a P reg 1.4 on 120k and it always passes or nearly passes. Only probs usually are back brakes. In fact its a remarkable vehicle. Still runs like new, on original clutch and driveshafts, gears tight etc. For sale as it happens £600 with new MOT
26. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #26 9th May 2010, 19:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxomad197 take it to a different garage mate sound like theyre ripping you off

    na they aint rippin me off, think they try to ive heard. they marked it all plus i had it on a ramp and checked it all.glad they did find it would be a lot worse in a years time. the mot place didnt fix it. engine runs fine wreg on 80k.
27. Sheppie501 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 Bristol Posts: 78 Saxo 1.0 almost dead

    #27 9th May 2010, 20:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrmann anyone else with rust problems ???? might make me feel a bit better lol

    yea lower left pessanger side, just got a plate of galvanised steel, angle grinded it to shape, 4 pop rivets, but b4 i did this i went to homebase and got a pot of rust remover and some black hammerite n did a quick paint job! or have you got quite a bit of rust?
28. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #28 10th May 2010, 20:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sheppie501 yea lower left pessanger side, just got a plate of galvanised steel, angle grinded it to shape, 4 pop rivets, but b4 i did this i went to homebase and got a pot of rust remover and some black hammerite n did a quick paint job! or have you got quite a bit of rust?

    not now i aint i had it welded up. jacked it up the other day wire brushed all loose paint stuff off then covered it in hammerite. found a small hole under ecu, had a propa good dig around tho wouldnt of been a hole if i dint push it through gettin welded this week and a good coat of sealent . id rather get it sorted now tho
29. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #29 10th May 2010, 22:01

    may sound expensive mate
    but most of its cheap enough
    go focus get ya sen a haynes manual

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