Cams :)

1. BezzaB Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Telford Posts: 225 Posi Blue Saxo VTS ;)

   #1 10th May 2010, 16:44

   This has probably been asked a lot of times, so i'm sorry but which cams are best for a VTS? .. and how much it cost to get it done? .. what kind of things would i need to buy?
   
   Thanks
2. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

   #2 10th May 2010, 16:47

   ph3 cams
   £300ish for cams
   plus fitting
   then £400+ on mapping..
   
   search.
3. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

   #3 10th May 2010, 16:50

   I would say Newman PH3s are best atm, sort of overtaken 708s.
4. BezzaB Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Telford Posts: 225 Posi Blue Saxo VTS ;)

   #4 10th May 2010, 16:58

   soo £300 for the cams and then ontop £400+ to remap it? .. is this mod worth the money?
5. Alexywhite Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Oxford Posts: 222 Citroen Saxo VTR MK2 DC2 Integra Type R EP3 Civi

   #5 10th May 2010, 17:43

   How long is a piece of string?
6. BezzaB Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Telford Posts: 225 Posi Blue Saxo VTS ;)

   #6 10th May 2010, 18:08

   Would i have to buy a new cambelt kit? i was told last night i would have to, just want to double check before i do
7. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #7 10th May 2010, 18:12

   yes, I'd fit a new cambelt as you're disturbing the old one.
8. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #8 10th May 2010, 18:17

   well you dont have to but youd be stupid not to, and yea camming is very expensive.
   
   I'm only going to cam mine if i ever go down the throttle body route, then i can have a lot more work done eg port and polish, valve seats etc etc etc then fitting the throttlebodies , then spending £400 on a mapping session would be worth while
9. maddison_vts Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torbay Posts: 1565 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #9 10th May 2010, 20:56

   for a road going car, i'd say piper 270's.
   
   i know everyone will bang on about how they don't produce the same peak power as the 708's, ph3's or 285's but if you look at a power graph, the 270's give more power across the range.
   
   also, 270's don't have to be re-mapped, you can run the car well with a decent gain without it having to be re-mapped.
   
   and if you plan on doing anything else to the car in the future, re-maps are a waste of money, get a stand alone ecu.
10. user_39613 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Essex Posts: 1006

    #10 10th May 2010, 22:55

    I'd include a set of pulleys within your budget, i know the standards are adjustable but if you going to do it, do it properly.
11. BezzaB Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Telford Posts: 225 Posi Blue Saxo VTS ;)

    #11 10th May 2010, 23:08

    Piper 270's, are they around £250-£300, i think i have seen these on the internet before.
    basically the vts im going to buy has had the ecu re-mapped but the engine that it was re-mapped for blew up because of the cam belt and just had a new engine in it, he said that the engine he has now dosent feel as quick?? what do you think, maybe the other engine had cams and not the new one?