Borbet A's

1. Junaid Established Member Joined: May 2009 pboro Posts: 1442 Saxo 1.4 furio Now Saxo 1.6 VTR

   #1 11th May 2010, 21:09

   Hey im looking to get Borbet A's but i was wondering with the 9.0 rears would they be illegal as they poke out more then the side arche?
2. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

   #2 11th May 2010, 21:29

   Anything that protrudes from the arch is illegal.
   
   Whether your local friendly MOT and policeman pick up on it is entirely yours to risk.
3. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

   #3 11th May 2010, 21:29

   oops, double post...
4. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

   #4 11th May 2010, 21:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by col101 Anything that protrudes from the arch is illegal. Whether your local friendly MOT and policeman pick up on it is entirely yours to risk.

   wrong, the tread of the tyre has to sit inside the arch to be legal,
   
   moters/police probably won't say much about abit of poke but if its ott then i'm sure police will have something to say
5. Junaid Established Member Joined: May 2009 pboro Posts: 1442 Saxo 1.4 furio Now Saxo 1.6 VTR

   #5 11th May 2010, 21:35

   will the police just warn you to take them off or take the car of the road because they might class it as not road worthy? thanks guys
6. Lewis Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Middlesbrough/Coventry Posts: 3808 Megane 225

   #6 11th May 2010, 21:37

   I think you just get a fine and a producer
7. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

   #7 11th May 2010, 21:37

   all down to how much of a d1ck the cop is tbh, they could maybe even fine you if the cop was that bad
8. nicole_ Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9

   #8 11th May 2010, 21:38

   i have legal ones for sale
9. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

   #9 11th May 2010, 21:40

   i saw pics from about 2-3 years ago, a lad was running 9's all round on a silver vtr
10. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #10 11th May 2010, 21:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks wrong, the tread of the tyre has to sit inside the arch to be legal

    Unless the law has changed since I was an MOT tester, then that's total bollocks. A rotating wheel sticking out (massive exageration coming...) 6 inches from the arch and not covered by nice soft rubber?
    
    Best bet is to go to your tester and ask him/her to get a definitive answer.
11. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #11 11th May 2010, 21:58

    i have a really good mate whos a traffic officier and hes really into his dubs and hes looked into it and told me the law
12. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #12 11th May 2010, 21:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 A rotating wheel sticking out (massive exageration coming...) 6 inches from the arch and not covered by nice soft rubber?

    how the fook is it going to sit 6 inches out of arch? it wouldn't
13. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #13 11th May 2010, 22:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Unless the law has changed since I was an MOT tester, then that's total bollocks. A rotating wheel sticking out (massive exageration coming...) 6 inches from the arch and not covered by nice soft rubber? Best bet is to go to your tester and ask him/her to get a definitive answer.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks how the fook is it going to sit 6 inches out of arch? it wouldn't

    That would be the exageration....
    My point is that a protrusion is a protrusion regardless of how far it is. Any rotating part that can come into contact with a pedestrian is a definate no no
14. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #14 11th May 2010, 22:16

    well you might want to look up on 'your' laws again
15. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #15 11th May 2010, 22:18

    I guess we'll agree to disagree.
16. user_35162 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 ramsey Posts: 485 citroen saxo vtr/s

    #16 11th May 2010, 22:18

    nicole could you post me some pics on PM of the wheels
17. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #17 11th May 2010, 22:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 I guess we'll agree to disagree.

    i'll agree your wrong and i'm right
18. user_33563 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Eyemouth Posts: 1094 amazon green vts :)

    #18 11th May 2010, 22:53

    ive seen it on a police forum, about this, the tyre must be within the arch, hence why people roll their arches to fit wider wheels, but the policeman will decide if the rim itself is as danger....
19. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #19 11th May 2010, 23:54

    its why people run stretch tyres so the tread is inside the arch
20. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #20 11th May 2010, 23:55

    ive always thought its just the tyre that has to be within the arch, hence why people stretch tyres
21. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #21 11th May 2010, 23:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak ive always thought its just the tyre that has to be within the arch, hence why people stretch tyres

    it is, the arch has to cover the tread
22. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #22 12th May 2010, 14:24

    yea ive heard only the tread has to be in the arch, otherwise a lot of people on the euro scene would be driving illegal cars
23. chrisvtr1989 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 dunstable, luton Posts: 1563 mk2vtr

    #23 12th May 2010, 14:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Anything that protrudes from the arch is illegal. Whether your local friendly MOT and policeman pick up on it is entirely yours to risk.

    Correct

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24. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #24 12th May 2010, 16:01

    again thats not what my traffic cop mate has found out in work
25. user_33563 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Eyemouth Posts: 1094 amazon green vts :)

    #25 12th May 2010, 16:17

    happy birthday jism.....just thought you guys would like a read through this http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/inde...-legal-or-not/
26. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #26 12th May 2010, 16:32

    i really cba ready through their ramblings
27. Junaid Established Member Joined: May 2009 pboro Posts: 1442 Saxo 1.4 furio Now Saxo 1.6 VTR

    #27 12th May 2010, 17:19

    thanks every one
28. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #28 12th May 2010, 22:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamieross happy birthday jism.....just thought you guys would like a read through this http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/inde...-legal-or-not/

    Interesting read
29. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #29 12th May 2010, 22:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Anything that protrudes from the arch is illegal. Whether your local friendly MOT and policeman pick up on it is entirely yours to risk.

    wrong.
    you are allowed up to 20mm of poke!
    
    also the tread needs to be kept inside the arch or under 5mm!
30. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #30 12th May 2010, 23:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR wrong. you are allowed up to 20mm of poke! also the tread needs to be kept inside the arch or under 5mm!

    wrong.
    according to that link you are allowed 30mm
31. mirrorblanks Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737

    #31 13th May 2010, 15:34

    hahaha
32. user_33563 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Eyemouth Posts: 1094 amazon green vts :)

    #32 13th May 2010, 17:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Interesting read

    i think the bit where the guys like go catch real criminals is funny as its so forward to the conversation....
33. chrisvtr1989 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 dunstable, luton Posts: 1563 mk2vtr

    #33 13th May 2010, 17:11

    your allowed 30mm of the tyre, not the tread. therefore you have to run stretch tires to keep the tread under the arch?
    but by stretching a tire your revealing the outer rim of the wheel. thats the bit thats illegal, bare rim sticking out.
    
    basiclly your allowed 30mm of tire but no rim. making it impossible to run poke legally. its up to how much of a tw*t the copper is.

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