remove pas

1. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #1 24th May 2010, 20:32

   can anyone tell me how hard it is to remove my pas? i cracked my pump during my 16v conversion and id rather just remove it rather than pay for a new pump, and i prefer non-pas cars anyway, is it just a case of remvoing the pump and pipes, or do i need to fit a different rack? or what? if there is a guide on here can some please direct me towards it.
   
   I searched "remove pas" but it just came up with loads of unrelated threads about removing other parts of he car lol ill keep searching it the mean time
   
   thanks in advance
2. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #2 24th May 2010, 20:34

   I'm not ure but have heard that you need a non pas rack, which i think fits straight in. Hopefully someone who has done it will post.

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3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 24th May 2010, 20:35

   You need the non PAS rack, so may aswell just do the pump as it would be ALOT easier and cost about the same.

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4. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #4 24th May 2010, 20:36

   cheers if that is the case i might leave it as i cant be bothered to remove my engine again, i might be painting my engine bay in the summer hols so i might do it then ill see, but i want a solution now lol
5. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #5 24th May 2010, 20:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax You need the non PAS rack, so may aswell just do the pump as it would be ALOT easier and cost about the same.

   cheers for that ill just a get a new pump then until i remove the engine again, then ill go ahead in fitting the new rack thanks for the replies
   
   actually anyone know how had it is to remove the rack, it sounds a little daunting for me
6. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #6 24th May 2010, 20:42

   With the engine out it should be fairly cushty
7. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #7 24th May 2010, 20:48

   pedal box and column are different on non-PAS models also
8. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #8 24th May 2010, 20:54

   also a PAS rack without the PAS pump working is a nightmare, it will try and fight you all the time!!
   
   i would just get a new Pump, can pick them up for about 40 quid, if you look around.
9. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #9 24th May 2010, 21:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by AndySAXO also a PAS rack without the PAS pump working is a nightmare, it will try and fight you all the time!!

   +1
   
   Its near impossible if you have sticks for arms. Pretty good if you intend to be a weight lifter in the near future though.
   
   Also when cornering it kinda feels like all the bearings have seized and the steering sticks a lil bit.
10. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #10 24th May 2010, 21:31

    yea the steering does seam to have a mind of its own now and again, but not to the point id say its dangerous, looks like ill just get a new pump
    
    it does seam a little strange though, when my pas/rear de-mister and blowers went (the common electrical fault) the steering was soooo heavy and my arms ached so much, but even though ive cracked the pump and all the fluid has leaked out its doesn't seam overly heavy, as if the pump is still sort of working, doesn't seam no where near as heavy as it was when i had the electrical problem, its easily drivable but obviously not as light as it used to be
11. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #11 24th May 2010, 21:39

    Probabaly couse the pump is still spinning then?
    
    Did it crack by you tapping it with a hammer? Years ago when my PAS went i hit it with a hammer and broke it all, then found out about this ignition bypass which was the actual problem lol
    
    Steering wont be dangerous, jus feel abit wierd at times lol
12. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #12 24th May 2010, 22:26

    ive already done the ignition by pass almost a year ago now,
    
    i dropped the 16v engine on to it and it put a little crack in it and loads of red fluid trickled out, like i said its heavier but no where near as heavy as it was, before i put the ignition by pass in, so as you say it must still be working to a point, but i don't have a clue how pas works anyway lol