DVLA tell me my Sax has been scrapped! (bought it from northern Ireland end Jan, now DVLA say it was scrapped in NI!)

24th May 2010, 20:41

Well, here are the facts. I bought my 1.5 SXD Saxo in January, which was registered in Londonderry, northern Ireland, it had NI mot and tax. The owner had the complete V5 log book, which was filled out correctly, and was sent to DVLA (log book is the same as GB to make matters more confusing.) Some time later, i got a letter from DVLA, saying that i need to take a photocopy of the log book (which they supplied, bless 'em!) along with my insurance, mot, etc to register it in the UK. No problem, i thought, as i'd just mot'd the car last Friday, and of course had insurance, and the NI tax disc, which expires end May. Any road up, after about an hour, i was told the car has a 'marker' on it that says it was scrapped in NI, and 'where is the car?' outside, if you want to see it, i explained, i've been using it for nearly 4 months! and bring the car along for an inspection next month, when, if you've been paying attention, the tax will have rub out! GRR! i hope nobody else has had a problem like this, but if you have (or know anyone who has, please advise!) many thanks, confused.Dave

24th May 2010, 20:50

Hopefully its just a mix up and you get it sorted.

Did you contact the person you bought it off?

Maybe they filled out the scrapping part instead of the bit they were supposed to.

24th May 2010, 20:52

HPI>>>

24th May 2010, 21:12

Full log book was done correctly, won't pay for HPI, if not sorted, may as well just drive it here (well, it's all legal, and not on DVLA database, check it WDZ 5836, could it be bonus time, F*CK the tax?) ie, ANPR checks no problem?

24th May 2010, 21:29

an hpi check is only 3quid using your mobile well worth it imo.

24th May 2010, 21:33

text check followed by a space then the reg to 88600

24th May 2010, 21:58

Thanks, but i don't think an hpi check would work out the same on a NI registered vehicle, but i stand to be corrected.............

25th May 2010, 20:09

ANPR checks would flag up the vehicle as reportedly being scrapped....and be worse in the eyes of the law than tax evasion

28th May 2010, 15:33

I just had a thought, the car has had a replacement door at some point, and perhaps it was in a prang, and the owner at the time told NI authorities it was being scrapped, and it was decided later to fix it? all seemed ok when i bought the car as the previous owner had the complete V5, and all the numbers on the car seems fine! oh well, only time will tell!

28th May 2010, 15:42

You might want to double check whether it has been scrapped. The DVLA are not perfect and has been known to make really serious mistakes.

28th May 2010, 15:51

or he could of fixed it, told him it was scrapped on a different form yet still have the V5 to make it look complete

28th May 2010, 16:06

yeah could have had more than one V5, i.e. tell them its lost and get a new one then use the old one to say its scrapped

28th May 2010, 16:26

Thanks all. Only got to wait until 1st June to find out, (got to take it to Borehamwood for inspection) better clear it out in case i've got to walk home (boo-hoo!) never mind, such is life...........

29th May 2010, 10:57

SoUnds like uve been stitched mate hope it turns out to be ok

29th May 2010, 11:18

you got to here to buy a diesel saxo

29th May 2010, 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxostuart

you got to here to buy a diesel saxo

What does this mean? Confused.Dave.

29th May 2010, 11:28

Do all your vin and engine numbers match the book? If not its a ringer.

If numbers all match, could be DVLA cock up. I had to threaten court action before i got a road tax refund when I changed my plate onto the new car. They tried to say the old car was never registered to me, or to anyone at my address. I pointed out that I had been receiving road tax renewal demands and paying them for 4 years, so they must have sent them to wrong person and owed me some money

Thirdly, it could be the car was written off, and returned to the road. You will be given a note on the log book....cat c etc (sorry, I am not really up on this aspect, sure someone will know)

So basically as long as its not a ringer then it should be fine

29th May 2010, 11:36

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Originally Posted by davidharvey

Do all your vin and engine numbers match the book? If not its a ringer.

If numbers all match, could be DVLA cock up. I had to threaten court action before i got a road tax refund when I changed my plate onto the new car. They tried to say the old car was never registered to me, or to anyone at my address. I pointed out that I had been receiving road tax renewal demands and paying them for 4 years, so they must have sent them to wrong person and owed me some money

Thirdly, it could be the car was written off, and returned to the road. You will be given a note on the log book....cat c etc (sorry, I am not really up on this aspect, sure someone will know)

So basically as long as its not a ringer then it should be fine

I checked all the numbers and they all match up and don't appear to have been tampered with. Also, i took it for an MOT last Friday, which it passed, and no problems there (the tester had to put the details on VOSA here, still no problems!)

2nd June 2010, 09:51

Update...............went along for inspection, where the 'po-faced' inspector checked the vin number under the bonnet, then asked me to open the tailgate, where he poked about with a torch, writing things down, it turns out there's another vin number there! when i asked 'what happens next?' he said 'i'll submit my report' with a very surly attitude! 'what about the tax?' i asked 'it ran out yesterday!' i exclaimed, 'oh, come with me' he replied, where he took me to one of the desks, where the girl asked if i'd like to tax it, which she done immediately, and gave me the disc, when i asked 'will i get a log book in my name in the post?' the answer was 'i dunno'! so off i went, that's the story so far, so back to waiting and see what happens.................

2nd June 2010, 10:01

Complete and utter ^$%$*^, sorry to hear about your crap journey mate, been there and done that with my previous Astra, ended up being a write off and put back on the road without registration, the DVLA had cocked up their end so he could sell it as a normal car not a cat V

2nd June 2010, 10:05

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Originally Posted by AndyMan

Complete and utter ^$%$*^, sorry to hear about your crap journey mate, been there and done that with my previous Astra, ended up being a write off and put back on the road without registration, the DVLA had cocked up their end so he could sell it as a normal car not a cat V

In these days of 'modern technology' i can't believe how hard the simplest of tasks are, things were easier years ago! btw, i'm still none the wiser of the outcome! GRRR!

2nd June 2010, 10:19

so have i read this right, the front end of your car has one vin number and the rear end has a dirrerent vin number?

doesnt sound good if you ask me mate.

It could possibly be that it has had a new front end/rear end and they have simply forgotten to swap over the vin plates, very stupid thing to do but could have happened.

Is there any colour difference between the front end of the car and rear end?

Worst Case is it could be the result of below -

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/safety_a..._shut_cars.jsp

Have you contacted the person you bought it from?

Whatever the reason is i would get the car seriously checked over by an independant garage to make sure its all ok and above board.

2nd June 2010, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan-Subtle

so have i read this right, the front end of your car has one vin number and the rear end has a dirrerent vin number?

doesnt sound good if you ask me mate.

It could possibly be that it has had a new front end/rear end and they have simply forgotten to swap over the vin plates, very stupid thing to do but could have happened.

Is there any colour difference between the front end of the car and rear end?

Worst Case is it could be the result of below -

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/safety_a..._shut_cars.jsp

Have you contacted the person you bought it from?

Whatever the reason is i would get the car seriously checked over by an independant garage to make sure its all ok and above board.

I haven't checked the numbers yet (but i will when i can find a torch!) i assume they must be the same or surely they would not have taxed it? also the previous owner has gone to Poland, and not expected to return!

3rd June 2010, 19:58

Wierd one this did you get it sorted?

3rd June 2010, 20:46

my mates had this before. Its why HPI was invented

4th June 2010, 10:23

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Originally Posted by Andy8v

Wierd one this did you get it sorted?

Well i just done a DVLA vehicle enquiry online, and the details of the car are now there, whereas they weren't before i went for the inspection, i can only assume it's all ok now, but i still won't know until i get the logbook through! confused.Dave

4th June 2010, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenice

Well i just done a DVLA vehicle enquiry online, and the details of the car are now there, whereas they weren't before i went for the inspection, i can only assume it's all ok now, but i still won't know until i get the logbook through! confused.Dave

Sell the car, QUICKLY

4th June 2010, 10:42

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Originally Posted by Lew_C

Sell the car, QUICKLY

Why? it would seem it's all 'Kosher' now!

8th June 2010, 11:18

Update.............just got the logbook through from DVLA, it even says 'previous owners-none' deep joy!

14th June 2010, 10:43

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Originally Posted by thenice

Update.............just got the logbook through from DVLA, it even says 'previous owners-none' deep joy!

I hadn't seen this post before so I read it from the start. Aaaahhh a happy ending!!!

14th June 2010, 12:55

As i say, deep joy