Fao 3 pluggers - Fava

1. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #1 27th May 2010, 21:39

   Sup all,
   
   Just wondering if when you're next getting into your car, you crack on the fan speed nob on the centre console, and then switch through the ignition barrel clicks and tell me at what point the ventilation fan kicks in?
   
   I've got a suspect relay problem that's all.
   Cheers!
2. user_28622 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 West Sussex, Worthing Posts: 1671 Golf TDI 130

   #2 27th May 2010, 21:43

   Do you mean when does the blowers come on. If so its when the engine is running ???
3. Alexp Central South Joined: Jun 2006 East Sussex Posts: 3105 VTS :)

   #3 27th May 2010, 21:44

   As above, Blowers don't start till engine is running.
4. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #4 27th May 2010, 21:54

   what about 2nd click, whatever the fuck it's called?
   
   
   You've got:
   
   0 - Off
   1 - Battery light so Radio works and that shit
   2 - Fuel Pump primes - dashboard wakes up - normal running mode.
   3 - Starter Motor goes for launch.
   
   mine kick in at 2 before I've even turned the ol' engine over.
5. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

   #5 27th May 2010, 21:55

   I believe mine start on the second click-when all the dash lights illuminate. Mines a 3 plug as well.
6. CraigLovelock Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Soton - Hedge End Posts: 3143 TT 225, Charged Eunos

   #6 27th May 2010, 21:55

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adsayer what about 2nd click, whatever the fuck it's called? You've got: 0 - Off 1 - Battery light so Radio works and that shit 2 - Fuel Pump primes - dashboard wakes up - normal running mode. 3 - Starter Motor goes for launch. mine kick in at 2 before I've even turned the ol' engine over.

   Win?
   
   Mine only works on ignition.
7. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #7 27th May 2010, 21:57

   We've had 3x 3 plugs and they've all been the same: blower only works when engine is running.
8. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

   #8 27th May 2010, 21:57

   Just gone and checked and the blowers kick in on the second click, when the "dashboard wakes up".
9. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #9 27th May 2010, 22:15

   ok that's weird, we're getting conflicting answers!
   
   so the blowers fire on the second click, no engine running?
10. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #10 27th May 2010, 22:17

    All the ones I've seen need the engine running for the blowers to work.
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 27th May 2010, 22:20

    brilliant. fucking 3 plugs
12. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #12 27th May 2010, 22:23

    My blower only works with the car started....(mk2 vts)
13. Ax_beefy Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Cannock Posts: 973 Citroen AX VTS

    #13 27th May 2010, 22:30

    I know this isn't going to be any help but in the AX blowers and engine fan work on 1st click, if that circuit fails they don't work (I have had that problem) even at the other stages. But, all electrics in the car should work from stage 2 (provided stage one is ontact also) without the engine running as stage 3 is literaly just a switch for the starter and the car continualy runs in stage 2 as this merely creates a circuit for power to run the in car fuse box
14. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #14 27th May 2010, 22:31

    My old 3 plug needed the engine running for the blowers to run. ( '03 1.1i )
    
    Lol, Should have made this a poll!
15. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #15 27th May 2010, 22:31

    I've had my fair share of mk2 Y+ reg VTR's lol (more than most).
    
    Heaters only work when engine is on.
16. user_25927 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl

    #16 27th May 2010, 22:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer what about 2nd click, whatever the fuck it's called? You've got: 0 - Off 1 - Battery light so Radio works and that shit 2 - Fuel Pump primes - dashboard wakes up - normal running mode. 3 - Starter Motor goes for launch. mine kick in at 2 before I've even turned the ol' engine over.

    Will do a Mini-poll on my cars tomoz i have a feeling it will be Ignition
17. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #17 27th May 2010, 23:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax_beefy I know this isn't going to be any help but in the AX blowers and engine fan work on 1st click, if that circuit fails they don't work (I have had that problem) even at the other stages. But, all electrics in the car should work from stage 2 (provided stage one is ontact also) without the engine running as stage 3 is literaly just a switch for the starter and the car continualy runs in stage 2 as this merely creates a circuit for power to run the in car fuse box

    nope it's interesting man
    
    So could there be a spate of failed relays (looking at the haynes here) amongst the 3-plug contingency?
    
    
    Ok of those people who get the blowers kicking in without the engine being on, do you have the battery light on even with the engine on?
18. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

    #18 27th May 2010, 23:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr_P My old 3 plug needed the engine running for the blowers to run. ( '03 1.1i ) Lol, Should have made this a poll!

    I've got an 03 pug 1.1 and mine work on the 2nd click of the ignition!
    
    Random! Think the frenchies just wired them according to how they felt on that particular day.
19. Claki Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Horsham Posts: 1855 Leon Cupra 200 TDI

    #19 27th May 2010, 23:42

    my old red 3 plug vtr used to go on the 2nd clicK!! and now my posi 3 plag goes when engine is running.
20. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

    #20 27th May 2010, 23:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer nope it's interesting man So could there be a spate of failed relays (looking at the haynes here) amongst the 3-plug contingency? Ok of those people who get the blowers kicking in without the engine being on, do you have the battery light on even with the engine on?

    Not quite sure what you mean but I will have a go.
    
    1st click-Battery light on
    2nd click-Battery light on and blowers kick in
    3rd click/engine running-Battery light not on and of course blowers on
21. user_31390 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2009 glossop Posts: 314 saxo 1.4 furio in blue

    #21 27th May 2010, 23:44

    mine only work when engine running w reg furio
22. Ax_beefy Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Cannock Posts: 973 Citroen AX VTS

    #22 28th May 2010, 00:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer nope it's interesting man So could there be a spate of failed relays (looking at the haynes here) amongst the 3-plug contingency? Ok of those people who get the blowers kicking in without the engine being on, do you have the battery light on even with the engine on?

    Its definately interesting as like I say the 3rd stage on the barrel is a non permanent connection, if you bridge it this merely engages the starter motor. 1 and 2 are permanent connections which remain on once the barrel is rotated.
    
    BUT.....
    
    Having said that the starter feed for the last 3plug I wired not long ago does run to the ECU and from there to the ignition relay and back out to the starter wheres my single plug loom does not go through the ECU so maybe this is some sort of pointless safe mode installed by citroen to prevent them from burning out or draining battery power.