who's running aftermarket fuel management?

1. user_35417 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Luton Posts: 232 Mauritius Blue VTR & K5 Gixxer 6

   #1 29th May 2010, 18:53

   As i'm looking to stick a turbo on my vtr I thought it would be good practice to get it running a aftermarket management system running on the car before getting into far with the conversion, because from where I see it, bolting a turbo and some pipe work together is the easy bit. but getting the car running on a different setup is a bit of dark area for me.
   
   so has anyone done it?
   how was it to install?
   did you get a base map and how was it?
2. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #2 29th May 2010, 18:59

   Get in tuch with andy about the predator ecu
   
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=104
3. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

   #3 29th May 2010, 19:27

   First of all... Decide who you want to map the car.
   
   Then choose the management they prefer.
   
   (or buy whatever if its cheap)
4. user_35417 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Luton Posts: 232 Mauritius Blue VTR & K5 Gixxer 6

   #4 30th May 2010, 23:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by 3cott Get in tuch with andy about the predator ecu http://www.saxperience.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=104

   I've pm'd him but i can't see much joy coming from that as there doesn't appear to be enough interest to make a 3 plug ecu, and i'm running a 3 plug set up.
   
   I've been looking at megasquirt which seems "ok", suppose I'll just have to order one and get stuck in.
5. ben_vts Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197

   #5 31st May 2010, 10:33

   S it then turbo, then Andy will have exactly what you need
6. maddison_vts Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torbay Posts: 1565 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #6 31st May 2010, 10:43

   i'm running dta management with the innovate lc-1. fitted and mapped by sandy brown.
   i didn't even try to fit it as it looked like a massive ballache so i gave to a proffesional.
7. user_35417 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Luton Posts: 232 Mauritius Blue VTR & K5 Gixxer 6

   #7 31st May 2010, 10:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by ben_vts S it then turbo, then Andy will have exactly what you need

   even for a 3 plug VTR ecu?
8. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #8 31st May 2010, 13:57

   Got for the omex 600 or DTA s40
9. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #9 31st May 2010, 14:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by 3cott Got for the omex 600 or DTA s40

   +1
   
   and then just a matter of wiring it in or buying a loom and fitting it
10. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #10 31st May 2010, 18:42

    It you get the omex 600
    You can buy a full race loom! Or buy the plugs & tails loom so you can make the loom to your specific spec
11. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #11 31st May 2010, 18:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3cott It you get the omex 600 You can buy a full race loom! Or buy the plugs & tails loom so you can make the loom to your specific spec

    even with a full race loom its not just plug everyhting in, theres still a fair bit of work to do..
    
    
    omex/dta/emerald is what id be going for
12. Sandy309 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Cornwall Posts: 349 106 XSi

    #12 1st June 2010, 07:45

    I do plug in loom conversions for DTA/OMEX/Emerald, all the main brands, race spec (as used on Maddison's). I'm very busy though, so it can take a few weeks.
13. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #13 1st June 2010, 11:32

    Buy an omex. You'll get it this year for one...
14. user_35417 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Luton Posts: 232 Mauritius Blue VTR & K5 Gixxer 6

    #14 1st June 2010, 23:08

    omex stuff does look good, but wow does it get expensive quickly!!
    
    I may have look into the mf2/sigcon/5th injector way of doing it, as my pockets aren't that deep! I only wanna run a small about of boost anyway, if I can get anywhere near 150bhp I'd be more than happy.
    
    so if anyone has any info on that set up please let me know.
15. Sandy309 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Cornwall Posts: 349 106 XSi

    #15 2nd June 2010, 09:05

    I have to say Beenie, be very careful, it may seem like a cheaper way of doing it, but if you have any trouble with the set up, your costs can overtake the cost of proper management very easily. Doing work like this on the cheap rarely works out any cheaper in the end.
16. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #16 2nd June 2010, 10:03

    I weighed up the standalone options and decided to give the predator a try... Has some good advantages.
    
    The mf2/sigcon route I had previously used for 5 years or more and never had any problems. Before standalone became the accepted method, the mf2/sigcon route was used by 'everyone' and when new was far from a cheap option...
17. user_35417 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Luton Posts: 232 Mauritius Blue VTR & K5 Gixxer 6

    #17 2nd June 2010, 21:23

    i understand the "buy cheap buy twice" rule of thumb, but i can't justify spending a grand on a standalone setup for a car thats worth a grand. that just doesn't make sense in my book. and besides the mf2/sigcon route isn't that "cheap" it's still gonna cost a couple of hundred, but compared to an omex set up yes it is cheap. I'm gonna try and use this as a stepping stone, once i have a turbo set up running i'll look into forged internals and build a tougher bottom end that'll cope with more with the stress.
    
    and the search button really gets on my tits as "mf2" isn't enough characters to search

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18. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #18 3rd June 2010, 00:44

    There are about 3 peeps on here selling mf2/sitcom setups. I've just sold mine. Can't remember the other chaps... Might be mr_n or mr_p
    
    Search for sigcon