Debadged Mk1 Grill

1. Josh-VTR Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Peterborough Posts: 1292 Mk1 Saxo VTR, MK1 Saxo VTS, Ford Ka

   #1 3rd June 2010, 22:37

   Does anyone else have problems with there engines getting on the hot side? I think the grill is causing it?
   If I were to cruise at 90 down the motorway it's not far off the red light.
2. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

   #2 4th June 2010, 00:23

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by joshlunn Does anyone else have problems with there engines getting on the hot side? I think the grill is causing it? If I were to cruise at 90 down the motorway it's not far off the red light.

   Doubt it. Hardly any cooling from the grill hence why the mk2 euro boys smooth over them. Can't think of what the problem could be though.
3. smnwllms Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Frinton on Sea, Nr Colchester Posts: 240 2000 Posi VTS

   #3 4th June 2010, 00:34

   Might have an air trap?? Do you know how to bleed the cooling system?
   As far as I know the temp gauge should sit just below half way and drop a tad when on fast roads.
4. Josh-VTR Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Peterborough Posts: 1292 Mk1 Saxo VTR, MK1 Saxo VTS, Ford Ka

   #4 4th June 2010, 09:42

   I have no idea how to but I'd imagine my dad can, I'll give him a bell later. If anything debadged should give more airflow surely?
   Yeah mine sits a fair bit higher aha Cheers
5. nicole_ Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9

   #5 4th June 2010, 09:44

   when im doing 90 down the motorway even on a really hot day my needle sits just above the bottom of the guage. only goes up when i stop or im in traffic, and even then only ever halfway, the grill wouldnt be doing it im pretty sure
6. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #6 4th June 2010, 09:53

   Doubt it has anything to do with the grill
   
   faulty thermostat or air in the cooling system is main things to check, may aswell drain the system then take off the thermostat and drop it in boiling water to see if it opens up fully
7. Josh-VTR Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Peterborough Posts: 1292 Mk1 Saxo VTR, MK1 Saxo VTS, Ford Ka

   #7 4th June 2010, 11:42

   Okay cheers
8. sneydster Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Dundee Posts: 176 Saxo West Coast

   #8 4th June 2010, 12:30

   As the guys are saying, its not the grille, but could be a few things:
   
   Not enough coolant in the system
   Air bubble in the system
   Faulty thermostat
   Leak in the system
   Or could even be low on oil as that would cause temperature increase
9. Josh-VTR Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Peterborough Posts: 1292 Mk1 Saxo VTR, MK1 Saxo VTS, Ford Ka

   #9 17th June 2010, 16:27

   I'm still not sure what's wrong with it, there was some air in there, but the problem is still occurring. I don't think it's the thermostat as the fan is coming on fine? Oil levels fine and coolant levels fine.
   Any other ideas?
10. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #10 17th June 2010, 16:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joshlunn Does anyone else have problems with there engines getting on the hot side? I think the grill is causing it? If I were to cruise at 90 down the motorway it's not far off the red light.

    this is more to do with your car being fucked over the grille lol
    
    just check the main things, the rad working, the fan kicking in, the thermostat working, the system bled properly?
    
    tbh you could pick up a brand new rad/fan/thermostat for less than £100 and then bleed it properly and i cant see why it would still stay hot after that
11. nicole_ Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9

    #11 17th June 2010, 16:53

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    Originally Posted by jeffchiz tbh you could pick up a brand new rad/fan/thermostat for less than £100 and then bleed it properly and i cant see why it would still stay hot after that

    mine has still stayed hot after all that possible HG apparently josh
12. Josh-VTR Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Peterborough Posts: 1292 Mk1 Saxo VTR, MK1 Saxo VTS, Ford Ka

    #12 17th June 2010, 17:06

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    Originally Posted by nicole_ mine has still stayed hot after all that possible HG apparently josh

    iluminusbutterfly on here just had a look for me like this morning, and he thinks it's fucked rad or water pump
13. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #13 17th June 2010, 17:10

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    Originally Posted by joshlunn iluminusbutterfly on here just had a look for me like this morning, and he thinks it's fucked rad or water pump

    well if its a broken rad thats a nice easy fix would take 10min to swap, if its the waterpump, just think of it as a prime time to do a cambelt change lol
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 17th June 2010, 17:11

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    Originally Posted by nicole_ mine has still stayed hot after all that possible HG apparently josh

    oooo is that what you think is up with yours? i did actually think about you when i read this thread lol
15. nicole_ Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9

    #15 17th June 2010, 17:24

    aww sam, thinking of me lol
    yeh apparently, although i dont have the mayo gunk in my oilcap
    stupidddddd pretty car
16. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #16 17th June 2010, 17:36

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    Originally Posted by nicole_ aww sam, thinking of me lol yeh apparently, although i dont have the mayo gunk in my oilcap stupidddddd pretty car

    lol ...
    
    stop messing around with 8v's and get a big girls engine
17. nicole_ Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9

    #17 17th June 2010, 17:42

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    Originally Posted by jeffchiz lol ... stop messing around with 8v's and get a big girls engine

    wellll, if its HG the mango engines going in till ive got some pennies for my vtec as the engine will be sitting around doing nothing in the next few weeks, back to 1.4 lol
18. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #18 17th June 2010, 17:50

    shouldn't be doing 90 down the motorway.....SAX-P Police!!! lol i jest. doubt the grill would make any real difference tbh....
19. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #19 17th June 2010, 17:57

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    Originally Posted by nicole_ wellll, if its HG the mango engines going in till ive got some pennies for my vtec as the engine will be sitting around doing nothing in the next few weeks, back to 1.4 lol

    shame ive got a vtr engine you could have had but i left it outside and theres water everywhere in it lol
    
    whats ben gonna drive then if you take the mango engine back lol