What is it with the VTR?

1. Princey_vts Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Lichfield Posts: 378 MK2 VTS, MK2 VTR

   #1 8th June 2010, 18:52

   I have just realised. Why do some VTR have 120 on the clocks and somme go up to 140. Also from what ive seen on youtube, the ones with 120 appear slower?
2. Princey_vts Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Lichfield Posts: 378 MK2 VTS, MK2 VTR

   #2 8th June 2010, 23:51

   anyone? lol
3. stingray1987 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 Stoke on Trent Posts: 421

   #3 8th June 2010, 23:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Princey_vts I have just realised. Why do some VTR have 120 on the clocks and somme go up to 140. Also from what ive seen on youtube, the ones with 120 appear slower?

   are they 100% a vtr because i think the 1.4 furio have clocks that go up to 120mph.
   
   i had a 2002 vtr and that went up to 140mph.
   my friend has a 1999 mk1 vtr and that goes upto 140mph
   and i now have a 1998 1.4 106 quiksilver and that goes upto 140mph on the clocks (not that it would get anywhere near that)
4. Princey_vts Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Lichfield Posts: 378 MK2 VTS, MK2 VTR

   #4 8th June 2010, 23:59

   apparently so. was a video o here earlier posted by db saxo sayin rate my vtr acceleration and it went to 120. Also on youtube some vtrs are showing 120 on clocks. Like you say, every vtr ive been in has 140 on the clock :s
5. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #5 9th June 2010, 00:45

   my mrs vtr goes up to 120mph and its early mk2. thought it was odd too but everything checks out that its vtr
6. VTR01KBR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 686 Saxo VTR Mk2

   #6 9th June 2010, 00:47

   140 on my vtr too. So your saying the ones with 120 on the clock are badged up furios? lol
7. user_41507 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 West Midlands Posts: 440 Saxo VTR

   #7 9th June 2010, 10:36

   mines an early mk2 VTR and only goes up to 120...
   even though it goes past that at the top end
8. user_36688 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 4179

   #8 9th June 2010, 10:39

   Hmmmmm i'm gonna have to go look at mine at Lunch time.
   
9. Carlvtr88 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 Birmingham Posts: 5801 1.1 106 XN Time, MK2 VTR 01. Ford Focus ST3 CP320

   #9 9th June 2010, 11:00

   How many of your VTRs will actually do 140 standard though ? ... lol about 120 top end isnt it ?... So maybe the French thought there was no point in a 140 clock until a bit later on.
10. user_36688 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 4179

    #10 9th June 2010, 11:04

    Mine says 140
11. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

    #11 9th June 2010, 11:15

    some went upto 130
12. Carlvtr88 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 Birmingham Posts: 5801 1.1 106 XN Time, MK2 VTR 01. Ford Focus ST3 CP320

    #12 9th June 2010, 11:16

    which ones ? Mines got 140 on the clock ( just for the record )
13. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

    #13 9th June 2010, 11:22

    Think the reason is because Citroen ran out of 140mph clocks and so they used 120mph clocks from furios as it saved them money and the layouts of the VTRs and Furios were the same compared to the VTS.
    
    ps mines got 120
14. Carlvtr88 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 Birmingham Posts: 5801 1.1 106 XN Time, MK2 VTR 01. Ford Focus ST3 CP320

    #14 9th June 2010, 11:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by johnr32 Think the reason is because Citroen ran out of 140mph clocks and so they used 120mph clocks from furios as it saved them money and the layouts of the VTRs and Furios were the same compared to the VTS. ps mines got 120

    mines a 2001 y reg n it got 140... If a guy in the previous post had a 120 clock and it was an early VTR model mk2... Then i dont know whatthey were doing lol.
15. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

    #15 9th June 2010, 11:36

    Ive seen quite a few furios with 140...... dont ask why lol
16. user_34087 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 8662 8 Valve 'R.

    #16 9th June 2010, 15:42

    VTR's do have 120 clocks.
17. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

    #17 9th June 2010, 15:54

    I still think its just citroen mixing and matching stuff from the VTR/Furio bin
18. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #18 9th June 2010, 16:19

    think its w and x reg vtrs with 120, correct me if im wrong
19. user_39430 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2009 Northern Monkey Posts: 17064 Work van che.

    #19 9th June 2010, 16:20

    I've never really top ended my car, but my mate has in his mk2 02 VTR and he got 128mph.
    
    But i guess it's not actually 128mph due to the shitty needles on the car lol.
20. user_42881 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shields Posts: 779

    #20 9th June 2010, 16:28

    90bhp or 98bhp maybe??? faster ones with the 140mph clocks are the later 98bhp or have been tuned??
21. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #21 9th June 2010, 17:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geordie_alex 90bhp or 98bhp maybe??? faster ones with the 140mph clocks are the later 98bhp or have been tuned??

    I doubt loads of owners would have bothered with swapping clocks. Even a 90bhp vtr is much slower and you could get just over 120 top end so the clocks would seem abit useless lol.(off to check mine now!)
    Edit: I have 130 on my mk1, good old citroen ramming on whatever component is nearest!
22. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

    #22 9th June 2010, 19:01

    ...its a shame they didnt put a VTS engine in my VTR by mistake- that would of been great.
23. richvtr88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 kent Posts: 190 mk2 green vtr

    #23 9th June 2010, 19:13

    when citroen bought out the mk2 saxos they changed dials to white ones in vt's.they quote the vtr top speed as 116 mph and so 120 on the clock was ok.however they changed regulations and speedo has to go up to 10+ mph over manufacturers quoted top speed.hence why they upped it to the 140 clocks from mk2 vts's
24. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #24 9th June 2010, 19:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richvtr88 when citroen bought out the mk2 saxos they changed dials to white ones in vt's.they quote the vtr top speed as 116 mph and so 120 on the clock was ok.however they changed regulations and speedo has to go up to 10+ mph over manufacturers quoted top speed.hence why they upped it to the 140 clocks from mk2 vts's

    What about my 130 clocks then?
25. richvtr88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 kent Posts: 190 mk2 green vtr

    #25 9th June 2010, 19:19

    are they on a mk1 and are they blue?
26. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #26 9th June 2010, 19:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richvtr88 are they on a mk1 and are they blue?

    Yup
27. richvtr88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 kent Posts: 190 mk2 green vtr

    #27 9th June 2010, 19:24

    they only started putting 120 clocks in when they changed them to white dials.the blue dials in mk1s were shared by vtr and vts i believe thats why there 130mph. they could only do it 120 clocks for about a year until regulation changed.so W and X reg cars are most likely to have 120 clocks
28. richvtr88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 kent Posts: 190 mk2 green vtr

    #28 9th June 2010, 19:29

    and vtrs with 140 clocks are 98bhp as first of the mk2s were still 90bhp like mine.thats why vtrs with 120 clocks seem slower because they are slightly as they are -8bhp
29. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

    #29 9th June 2010, 20:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richvtr88 and vtrs with 140 clocks are 98bhp as first of the mk2s were still 90bhp like mine.thats why vtrs with 120 clocks seem slower because they are slightly as they are -8bhp

    mine is a Y reg 98bhp version but with 120 clocks - all original. Think it might be only the 2002 and newer has 140 clocks.
30. richvtr88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 kent Posts: 190 mk2 green vtr

    #30 9th June 2010, 20:43

    think it all depends when that regulation came in but that is why anyway lol
31. user_31039 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Woking / Plymouth Posts: 1031 saxo 1.1 posi blue, saxo 1.4 furio black

    #31 10th June 2010, 15:50

    Quote:

    are they 100% a vtr because i think the 1.4 furio have clocks that go up to 120mph.

    my furio goes up to 140
32. VTR01KBR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 686 Saxo VTR Mk2

    #32 10th June 2010, 21:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by johnr32 mine is a Y reg 98bhp version but with 120 clocks - all original. Think it might be only the 2002 and newer has 140 clocks.

    nah mines a y reg 2001 and the clock goes upto 140. Maybe its just shitroen trowing on any clock thats nearest.
33. saxo_singh Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2009 Birmingham Posts: 4289 02 VTR'd Furio, 07 Audi A4 Avant S Line

    #33 11th June 2010, 17:16

    Furios have VTR clocks so will be the same. 140 mph! Closest i been was 111mph in the mighty 1.4 furio lol
34. user_34090 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Devizes Posts: 2280 Blue Clio 172 Cup

    #34 11th June 2010, 17:40

    My Furio clocks go to 120 and i got 119.
    I think there's a reason why they shouldn't go higher..
35. Xathura Newbie Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 7

    #35 11th June 2010, 18:38

    my 1.1 East Coast has 260mph on the clocks
36. liam-o Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1346

    #36 11th June 2010, 19:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -shuggles- think its w and x reg vtrs with 120, correct me if im wrong

    W reg VTR and mine goes to 140
37. dav0506 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Leeds Posts: 1761 Mk2 Saxo VTR 2001 (Two tone silver)

    #37 11th June 2010, 19:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Xathura my 1.1 East Coast has 260mph on the clocks

    Belting mush!
    
    Mine says 140mph, 51 plate VTR. Only had about 105mph out of it, i daren't push it harder due to the fact it feels like the engine will explode if i do!
38. Rikochet Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Dundee Posts: 121 Citroen Saxo VTR Phase 2 (51)

    #38 14th June 2010, 22:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morgzc What about my 130 clocks then?

    116mph+10mph = 126mph
    
    126mph is less than 130mph
39. user_15300 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100

    #39 14th June 2010, 23:53

    My clocks go to 140... It's a 2001 98bhp model. I believe the earlier lower power engine's only had 120 on the clocks
40. nathgvtr Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 253

    #40 15th June 2010, 12:01

    my 2001 vtr has 140mph on the clocks, as said before i assume the 120mph are either phase ones or westcoast/furio
41. user_26153 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Blackpool, UK (occasionaly Isle Of Wight) Posts: 1121 Citroen Saxo VTR 2001 Eunos Roadster

    #41 15th June 2010, 12:17

    Mine has 140 and is a Y reg 2001.
    
    Maybe it was during the crossover from mk1 to 2