Getting VTS gearbox fitted to my VTR on fri

1. CitroenSport Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1984 MK2 VTS 153bhp

   #1 15th June 2010, 00:25

   as title . . . but what will happen with revs ect will it just rev quicker to the limiter? but not complicate the speedo etc?
   
   much difference in acceleration?
   
   cheers
2. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #2 15th June 2010, 00:26

   will be slower with a vts box mate
3. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

   #3 15th June 2010, 09:41

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mark1311 will be slower with a vts box mate

   
   A Vts box has closer ratios, so it should improve your acceleration. Your top speed will be reduced, as the R doesn't rev as high.

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4. user_42881 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shields Posts: 779

   #4 15th June 2010, 16:21

   I fancy doing this, cant be as bad as putting a 1.1 box on surely??? Top speed muxt be slightly better????
5. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #5 15th June 2010, 16:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Quick A Vts box has closer ratios, so it should improve your acceleration. Your top speed will be reduced, as the R doesn't rev as high.

   not quite Quick dude...
   
   the 5th gear is an overdrive gear on the VTR box. So the car never actually hits redline at top speed, so with a slightly shorter box the VTR still hits top speed amazingly!
6. CitroenSport Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1984 MK2 VTS 153bhp

   #6 15th June 2010, 17:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adsayer not quite Quick dude... the 5th gear is an overdrive gear on the VTR box. So the car never actually hits redline at top speed, so with a slightly shorter box the VTR still hits top speed amazingly!

   so what does that mean lol it wont be quicker?
7. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #7 15th June 2010, 17:53

   Yeah, it'll accelerate quicker and you won't lose top speed.

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8. Lewis Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Middlesbrough/Coventry Posts: 3808 Megane 225

   #8 15th June 2010, 18:24

   So win win really. What top speed are we looking for an R?
9. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

   #9 15th June 2010, 18:27

   I did this to my furio, i have a vts box on it, made acceleration much better! wouldnt know about top speed.
10. CitroenSport Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1984 MK2 VTS 153bhp

    #10 15th June 2010, 23:19

    cheers everyone
11. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #11 15th June 2010, 23:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by L_E_W_I_S So win win really. What top speed are we looking for an R?

    123mph in 5th at 6250rpm with a 1.1 gearbox on.
12. ryansaxo2010 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 chepstow Posts: 138 saxo furio, vts conversion with cat cams and a tur

    #12 15th June 2010, 23:29

    i have a vts on a 1.4 gear box .... its amazing .. i highly reccomed u choose a 1.4 or a 1.3 rallye box as the vts can handle more torque but ull loose low end power cuz itll take longer to go thru the gears.... the 1.1 box will smash its self to bits in seconds with the torque of a vtr 8v i reccomend the 1.4 best of both worlds good aspect of strengh and it can hadle a lil more toque than the 1.1 but still a closer ration than the vts....
13. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #13 15th June 2010, 23:31

    Can someone tell me the OFFICIAL (not what you saw on your own dials!) top speed of a VTR please?... just in case as I don't want to claim the VTS box we be the best of the both worlds if it aint.
    
    thank you!
14. blakey260 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Rotherham/Sheffield Posts: 137 Ford Focus Zetec

    #14 16th June 2010, 00:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryansaxo2010 i have a vts on a 1.4 gear box .... its amazing .. i highly reccomed u choose a 1.4 or a 1.3 rallye box as the vts can handle more torque but ull loose low end power cuz itll take longer to go thru the gears.... the 1.1 box will smash its self to bits in seconds with the torque of a vtr 8v i reccomend the 1.4 best of both worlds good aspect of strengh and it can hadle a lil more toque than the 1.1 but still a closer ration than the vts....

    1.4 box isnt, it has same gear ratios (3rd, 4th and 5th) only 1st and 2nd gear are smaller and the diff is alot weaker so im taking it steady in mine as the diff went in my vtr box so i dont want to break the diff in the 1.4 box, so no dont go for the 1.4 box if you can help it lol
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 16th June 2010, 09:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryansaxo2010 i have a vts on a 1.4 gear box .... its amazing .. i highly reccomed u choose a 1.4 or a 1.3 rallye box as the vts can handle more torque but ull loose low end power cuz itll take longer to go thru the gears.... the 1.1 box will smash its self to bits in seconds with the torque of a vtr 8v i reccomend the 1.4 best of both worlds good aspect of strengh and it can hadle a lil more toque than the 1.1 but still a closer ration than the vts....

    not meaning to sound like a dick here, but that just sounds like a load of shit. lol

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16. stupotvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 EDINBURGH Posts: 3143 BMW e36 328i sport

    #16 16th June 2010, 13:27

    I did this to my vtr it accelerates quicker for sure. iirc it sits about 500rpm higher in each gear compaired to the standard box.
17. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #17 16th June 2010, 13:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stupotvtr I did this to my vtr it accelerates quicker for sure. iirc it sits about 500rpm higher in each gear compaired to the standard box.

    It can't sit at a 500 rpm difference throughout the entire rev range dude - not trying to be a cock just mentioning that's all.
18. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #18 16th June 2010, 14:25

    Parkers http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/...px?deriv=17753 says
    
    120 mph
19. Mint-VTR Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Sawbridgeworth Posts: 1883 Black VTR, Clio 172. Gaz Coilovers, Stealth Exhaus

    #19 16th June 2010, 22:33

    ive put vts box on my vtr, noticeable difference IMO quicker acceleration, worth it !

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20. saxo5446 Newbie Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 24

    #20 16th June 2010, 22:55

    vtr will hit 126
21. CitroenSport Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1984 MK2 VTS 153bhp

    #21 16th June 2010, 23:10

    so pros = i will have better acceleration and same top end
    cons = less mpg
    
    that about right cheers everyone
22. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #22 16th June 2010, 23:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CitroenSport so pros = i will have better acceleration and same top end cons = less mpg that about right cheers everyone

    yep... exactly that

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