next step for my gti

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Kent Posts: 755
    #1
    i got a 1997 R reg 106 gti with enclosed ecosse induction kit with pipercross filter and a 4-2-1 manifold, stainless steel decat and a stainless magnex cat back exhaust system

    i am thinking of fitting turbo to the car at the end of this year maybe begining of next year

    i want to get some more power out of my car before i fit the turbo, is there anything i can fit to the car now which wil improve performance that will help when i turbo the car?
  2. Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3
    #2
    Well, if you are turbo'n your gti, id get some of the handeling aspects done. This is because you will get all the performance when you put the turbo and bits on.

    4-pots, descent suspension set up wether it be psx kit or bilstein set up, polybush's, uprated arbs.. the usual.

    but thats just my personal opinion.
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  3. Newbie Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5
    #3
    fast road camshafts?
  4. Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3
    #4
    Surely it would just be replaced with a camshaft to suit the turbo, when he install's that?

    EDIT: Spelling fail.
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Nottingham Posts: 501 JDM EP3
    #5
    Theres no point fitting fast road cams if your planning on getting a turbo.
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts
    #6
    Don't spend any money on the engine if your going boost
    Spend it on the brakes & suspension, tyres
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Kent Posts: 755
    #7
    Brakes and suspension are done i now have 406coupe brembo brakes and full spax suspension setup, could i fit any cams that will be noticeable now and help with the turbo
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #8
    Is there any point getting a turbo? Won't it cost as much as the turbo kit just spending on bits to keep it reliable?
  9. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pug106-GTI View Post
    could i fit any cams that will be noticeable now and help with the turbo
    there are a few cars running an aggressive cam on turbo but 99% of people dont as they dont like it much tbh

    i wouldnt bother tbh unless you can get some cheap to use then sell on when you go boosted
    but its messing about like
  10. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 lowestoft, suffolk Posts: 212 saxo vts, 205 gti-6, 307 hdi
    #10
    i'd spend your money on stand alone management, and a re-map it may well gain you some extra performance, and your going to need it in the future anyway to run the turbo. It'll also future proof your gti if you change plans i.e to run bodies and cams instead
  11. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953
    #11
    dont bother with a turbo cam just yet, once you have sorted some decent rubber, suspension and brakes crack on with getting it boosted

    a wild turbo cam can be dailed in later on.

    thought you were buying the vts/gti bottom end in the forsale section??
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nev6 View Post
    i'd spend your money on stand alone management, and a re-map it may well gain you some extra performance, and your going to need it in the future anyway to run the turbo. It'll also future proof your gti if you change plans i.e to run bodies and cams instead
    whats the benefits of remapping a near standard engine? wouldnt it need to be remapped anyways if you had boddies and cams?
  13. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 lowestoft, suffolk Posts: 212 saxo vts, 205 gti-6, 307 hdi
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nicole_ View Post
    whats the benefits of remapping a near standard engine? wouldnt it need to be remapped anyways if you had boddies and cams?
    any modification however small will work at its optimum when mapped properly to the car, so like i said he may gain a little performance, also buying the management now will spread the cost of the turbo conversion out as he will need management to run a turbo properly (unless going 5th injector and piggy-back, but thats not really the way to do it).

    And yes it would need to be mapped again to run bodies and cams, but having the management already installed just gives the options for change.
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #14
    yea but when you buy aftermarket management usually the price includes mapping, so if you get it mapped its gonna cost a further £300 or so to get it mapped again, where you could have it mapped when all the work is done saving a lot of money, thats just how i see it
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffchiz View Post
    yea but when you buy aftermarket management usually the price includes mapping, so if you get it mapped its gonna cost a further £300 or so to get it mapped again, where you could have it mapped when all the work is done saving a lot of money, thats just how i see it
    thats what i thought, im with you on this one sam
    surely its not gunna make that much more power being mapped with a mani and induction kit?
    its alot of money to waste having to do it again
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #16
    Or just get a predator ecu...
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost
    #17
    spax kit, get that off for a start get billies pax kits are awful, yes i have had a spax kit and now run billies and the difference is worth every penny
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy View Post
    Or just get a predator ecu...
    whats that got to do with anything?
  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nicole_ View Post
    thats what i thought, im with you on this one sam
    surely its not gunna make that much more power being mapped with a mani and induction kit?
    its alot of money to waste having to do it again
    That...
  20. Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy View Post
    Or just get a predator ecu...
    Seem to give poo torque figures


    To the OP if you want info on strapping a turbo to an otherwise standard car i recommened a search, as these threads come up atleast twice a week and there's always a few people that humour them
  21. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy View Post
    That...
    i still dont understand what your on about? shes saying theres no point in remapping a car standard to just have to do it again when you've modified it so why does it matter what ecu you use?
  22. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #22
    Cos with pred it doesn't matter if you need it mapped again it won't cost extra.
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy View Post
    Cos with pred it doesn't matter if you need it mapped again it won't cost extra.
    oh right ok didnt know that, would have been a good idea to explain these things instead of just writing "that..." lol