Basic costs of a 1.1 to vts conversion?

1. Dave-B Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Nuneaton Posts: 490 Posi Blue Mk2 1.1 Forte

   #1 16th June 2010, 22:32

   Just trying to get a rough idea of the costs from a 1.1 to 16v vts
2. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

   #2 16th June 2010, 23:23

   Better off to just buy a proper Vts.

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3. Plekumat L-plater Joined: May 2010 Afyon DC /Turkey Posts: 40 Citroen C2 1.6i VTR Sensodrive

   #3 17th June 2010, 01:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Quick Better off to just buy a proper Vts.

   
4. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #4 17th June 2010, 09:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dave-B Just trying to get a rough idea of the costs from a 1.1 to 16v vts

   i can do the conversion for £150, you supply the engine.
5. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

   #5 17th June 2010, 09:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts i can do the conversion for £150, you supply the engine.

   wtf?
   
   how can it be that cheap?
6. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #6 17th June 2010, 09:10

   its a days work.
7. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

   #7 17th June 2010, 09:19

   Do you just need the engine ?
8. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #8 17th June 2010, 09:23

   +
   unlocked ecu
   wiring loom
   throttle cable
   top rad hose
   fuel return pipe (just use a length of fuel hose)
9. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #9 17th June 2010, 17:39

   brilliant price ^^^ i wouldnt get out of bed for less than £250
10. Lewis1600 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2009 Los Anglesey Posts: 3416 Ibiza Sport TDI / MK1 VTS

    #10 17th June 2010, 17:42

    dont you need to change the Driveshafts aswell? and gearbox? but suppose you can still use the 1.1 but wont the same top end though.
    
    you better off saving up and waiting to get a VTS... imo
    
    P.s
    
    I say anything between £800-1200
11. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #11 17th June 2010, 17:45

    Don't forget that you should also upgrade the brakes & suspension, tell DVLA & insurance company about the swop.

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12. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #12 17th June 2010, 17:48

    as above, dont think changing the engine will be a good option for cheaper running costs by cheating the system
13. Dave-B Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Nuneaton Posts: 490 Posi Blue Mk2 1.1 Forte

    #13 17th June 2010, 18:18

    Id rather to the conversion because Ive spent too much on my 1.1 already and wont get any of the money back anyway
    And a flat arch vts would be pretty mint?
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 17th June 2010, 18:28

    its your car mate do it if you want you can do it on the cheap if you want, if you go to a scrappy you could easily pick up vtr/s suspension/brake set up pretty cheap and then an engine and everything you need would be about £300 i would invest in new drive shafts/clutch though they are something you dont want to take chances with
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 17th June 2010, 21:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom brilliant price ^^^ i wouldnt get out of bed for less than £250

    its easily done in a day, dont see why the price needs to be so high. especially when its only a 2nd job. get paid enough on my main job
16. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #16 18th June 2010, 09:24

    it covers the wear tear on my tools and engine hoists, the cost of my garage. The fact that i hate doing engine conversions. It is still 50% less than most garages so .......
    Fair play to you though
17. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #17 18th June 2010, 13:58

    at the end of the day if you havge the skills you can charge what ever people will pay and most people would pay £250 for a conversion, and if you want to charge £250 thats your privilege to do so, your not forcing people to pay it at the end of the day
18. Dave-B Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Nuneaton Posts: 490 Posi Blue Mk2 1.1 Forte

    #18 18th June 2010, 14:51

    I wasnt looking for prices off labour, wanted to know the prices on average of all the parts I need
19. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

    #19 18th June 2010, 15:03

    dont you need better brakes etc?
20. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #20 18th June 2010, 15:10

    tbh mate for £150 id pay that just to save you the hassle of getting your hands dirty lol
    
    also your question is very vague, as everything is gonna be second hand its hard to tell
    if your gonna do it all the parts i think you need are the following
    -engine
    -manifold
    -g/box
    -loom
    -ecu
    -vts rad
    -vts fan
    -rad hoses
    -drive shafts
    -hubs
    -wishbones
    -arb
    -vtr/s/266mm brakes
    
    while you at it your probably gonna want to change the suspension bushes/exhaust/lowering springs/new discs and pads, saves time taking it all off again
21. chris84 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 durham Posts: 1218 02 black vts with nitrous!!

    #21 18th June 2010, 15:43

    You can get everything for the conversion easily for around £350, theres always a few on e-bay. Try to get one that you can see running before its removed from the car as people tend to bull shit about mileage and service history and so on. Also there is the new oil, filters, plugs ect that need doing then your excellent price of £150 from williamsvts on top. Id save up around the £700 mark to cover the unexpected as theres always something!!!!!
22. bmxlube Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 216 saxo 1.6 16v east cost (scraped) saxo 1.6 vtr

    #22 18th June 2010, 19:19

    a grage was going to charge me £100 to fit my vts engine in my 1.1 which i thought was pritty cheap but i ended up fitting it my self as i wanted to get some more experience doing stuff with the engine all together all my stuff for my vts conversion cost me about £400
23. AdamDougal Established Member Joined: Jun 2010 Middlesbrough Posts: 1673 2002 Quicksilver

    #23 19th June 2010, 01:18

    just buy vts car, save up