Will a PUG106gti gearbox and cluth fit VTR?

1. user_36702 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Blaze'nSmoke (Basingstoke) Posts: 292 Saxo VTR

   #1 20th June 2010, 14:31

   Hi all,
   
   Just wondering, I know the PUG106 and Saxo are identical, but does anyone know if a PUG106gti gearbox and cluth will fit a VTR? Im looking at getting a 106gti gearbox because of the better gear ratio and the guy is also selling an organic racing clutch worth a bit of £££.
   
   Thanks for any help,
   Craig
2. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #2 20th June 2010, 14:35

   Yes they will fit as they are the same....
   
   If you got a different clutch to a OEM replacment it would be wize to re-enforce the clutch fork arm out side the earbox as these tend to bend or snap.
3. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

   #3 20th June 2010, 14:43

   make sure the code matches up aswell unfortunatly theres people out there that will have your pants down.
4. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #4 20th June 2010, 14:51

   box will, clutch wont i dont think?
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 20th June 2010, 14:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by LeeM box will, clutch wont i dont think?

   VTS/GTI/VTR/XT or any using 200mm clutch will fit. The pressure plates have different patterns for the allen bolts on the pressure plate which change in mk1/mk2 engines.
   
   The organic clutch plate will more than likley fit within the standard pressure plate.
6. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

   #6 20th June 2010, 15:02

   DB
   
   whats the advantages/ disavantages of having a ceramic clutch?
   
   are they really worth the extra £££?
7. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #7 20th June 2010, 15:08

   Not really any advantage on a fairly standard car. Not really looked into them tbf so cant elaberate on their advantage on higher powered cars tbh!
   
   Through using a Helix clutch theyre annoying as its more on n off and can be a good work out on your legs depending which ones you get.

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8. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

   #8 20th June 2010, 15:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax Not really any advantage on a fairly standard car. Not really looked into them tbf so cant elaberate on their advantage on higher powered cars tbh! Through using a Helix clutch theyre annoying as its more on n off and can be a good work out on your legs depending which ones you get.

   i see, my mates scooby has a uprated clutch of some sort and its horrible, either engaged or not with no inbetween.
9. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #9 20th June 2010, 15:15

   Yeh thats the feeling I got on a vts I drove.
   
   Quick google search on the advantage of organic/paddle/uprated clutchs brings up a few results.
10. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

    #10 20th June 2010, 15:34

    just reading some info on a scooby site about them, some good info there.
    
    

    Quote:

    Organic: Metal-fiber woven into "organic" (actually CF aramid with other materials), original-equipment style. Known for smooth engagement, long life, broad operating temperature, minimal-to-no break in period. Will take hard use, somewhat intolerant of repeated abuse (will overheat). Will return to almost full operational condition if overheated. Material is dark brown or black with visible metal fibers. Kevlar: High-durability material more resistant to hard use. Engagement is similar to organic, but may glaze slightly in stop and go traffic, resulting in slippage until worn clean when used hard again. Higher temp range in general, but can be ruined from overheating; will not return to original characteristics if "cooked". Material is uniform yellow/green and may look slightly fuzzy when new. Ceramic: Very high temperature material. Engagement is more abrupt. Will wear flywheel surface faster, especially in traffic situations. Due to it’s intrinsic properties, ceramic has a very high temperature range. Material is any of several light hues - gray, pink, brown. Feramic: This unique clutch material is one that incorporates graphite and cindered iron. The result is a friction material that offers good friction coefficient, torque capacity, and smoothness of engagement. Carbon: Very high temperature material. Engagement is more abrupt. Will wear flywheel surface faster, especially in traffic situations. Slightly more durable and flywheel-friendly compared to other aggressive clutch materials. Material is black.

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11. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #11 20th June 2010, 16:08

    as long as its the right size clutch for your engine.
    
    Never had issues with oem clutches like sach and valeo.
    Only really need an uprated clutch when running big power imo
12. user_36702 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Blaze'nSmoke (Basingstoke) Posts: 292 Saxo VTR

    #12 20th June 2010, 16:10

    thanks guys, i can always count on saxpierience
13. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #13 20th June 2010, 19:04

    always remember for future reference, what ever gearbox you fit, you always buy the clutch that fits the engine, but yea the gti/vtr is the same

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14. user_36702 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Blaze'nSmoke (Basingstoke) Posts: 292 Saxo VTR

    #14 20th June 2010, 21:04

    cool cool, im jus trying to fink up ways to improve performance without notchin up my insurance lol
    
    any ideas? my dad said remap cos he has his 2.5 v6 vectra remapped an it flys lol
15. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #15 20th June 2010, 21:17

    nah i wouldnt remap it very expensive for not a lot gain at all
16. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #16 20th June 2010, 22:45

    remap to compliment other mods, no real point on a stock car
17. user_36702 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Blaze'nSmoke (Basingstoke) Posts: 292 Saxo VTR

    #17 21st June 2010, 08:03

    ok, thanks for the advice