Gear linkage, ball joint and rods? scrap

1. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

   #1 22nd June 2010, 14:05

   Took my car to garage today as car has a gear selector problem, sometimes wont let me into 1st, 2nd etc. Said i needed new gear linkages, ball joint and some rods or something? he later told me im better of scrapping the car :O 2001 saxo desire, 69,000 genuine mileage. Is he being an arse? shall i get it fixed? how much will this cost and where can i get the parts . thankyou
2. johny105 L-plater Joined: Jun 2010 wakefield , west yorks Posts: 80 2000 hyundai coupe. 2.0 se 2002 mitsubishi galan

   #2 22nd June 2010, 14:13

   yeah sounds like he is being an arse to me.
   
   if he's a fat fucker they can be a bit of a twat to do need small girlish hands (they help anyway)
   
   johny
3. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

   #3 22nd June 2010, 14:18

   theres some linkages on ebay, anyone know which ones i need?
   also he says gear ball joint or something? what is this?
4. user_32900 North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces

   #4 22nd June 2010, 14:22

   To be honest i'd take it to another garage and find out exactly whats needed, and get a price off them (itemised) for what needs doing. Then you have a list of the parts you need and you can buy them off here or ebay and see if someone's local to fit them for you (for a small fee obviously )
5. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

   #5 22nd June 2010, 14:29

   i know its deffinatly the gear linkages but what else, i do not know so will get a second opinion
   
   anyone know which ones on ebay are the right ones for my 1.1 desire
6. rob_s Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Bloody Bradford init.. Posts: 3649 VW CADDY/VX MOKKA

   #6 22nd June 2010, 14:29

   lol he probs knows someone or is after himself a cheap run about
   
   if you agreed to scrap it guareed he would have it himself
   
   it will need a set of linkages and the ball joint he means could be the control arm? with the rubber ball on the end i presume
   
   but as said get it back and take it elsewhere
7. Princey_vts Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Lichfield Posts: 378 MK2 VTS, MK2 VTR

   #7 22nd June 2010, 17:24

   the gear linkanges are universal mate. ones off a 1.1 are the same as ones off a vts. Just put some 1.1 106 ones on my vts. exactly the same so ignore them on that. Scrapyard best bet, i paid £3 for mine . As for ball joints dont cost a massive deal £30 tops and they arent that hard to fit even for a first timer or someone who isnt mechanically savvy.
   
   If i was you, get another opinion and ignore the ignorant arses.
8. BobCm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Apr 2009 Orpington Posts: 1406 My son drives a Poseidon Blue Saxo Mk2 1.6i VTR.

   #8 22nd June 2010, 23:10

   Hi, Here is a little more to add to what the others have posted above:
   
   2) Citroen part 2449 65 "CONTROL RETURN" which is about £36.85 inc VAT or try a breaker
   
9. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #9 22nd June 2010, 23:13

   he's trying to have your pants down, bottom arm with balljoint £15 used £40-ish new, set of gear linkage rods £5 used, £15 ish new, hours labour £40 job done.

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10. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

    #10 23rd June 2010, 09:19

    New linkage rods for £15 :O i've only seen ones for £40, where can i get these?
    
    
    
    I need 2,3,3 and 5 i belive? possibly 1 but cannot remember if he said this needs replacing. Gonna get a second opinion soon tho.
    
    thanks for all the help
11. m8davem8 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Barnsley Posts: 811 52 white vts, e92 bmw 320d msport

    #11 23rd June 2010, 10:03

    get sum uprated ones off ebay 30 40 quid it will stop the problem happening in the future as they wont pop off causing u to lose certain gears easy job to fix anyway
12. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

    #12 23rd June 2010, 23:21

    are these correct? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-SAXO-G...item4cee8856a4 just wanna know before i buy
13. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #13 23rd June 2010, 23:32

    they are the usual parts in the gear linkage that fail so i'd guess these are the parts that the guy means
14. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

    #14 23rd June 2010, 23:56

    yeah i know its definatly the linkages, just need to find out the other bits and bobs.
    
    Those linkages would fit my saxo tho yeah?
    
    thankyou for the help
15. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

    #15 24th June 2010, 09:38

    anyoneeeee? just so i dont make a mistakke and buy the wrong ones
16. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

    #16 24th June 2010, 23:38

    bump
17. beep1 Newbie Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 21 Saxo VTR mk2 Silver, Lotus Elise s1 R.I.P

    #17 24th June 2010, 23:50

    ye thats the right part should go for some uprated ones though!!
18. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

    #18 25th June 2010, 00:22

    cant find any
19. beep1 Newbie Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 21 Saxo VTR mk2 Silver, Lotus Elise s1 R.I.P

    #19 28th June 2010, 18:12

    dont know whether this is too late but ive just found these and have read that they are fairly good over oe parts
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...roen-saxo.html
20. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #20 28th June 2010, 18:14

    go for standard ones, ignore these 'uprated ones'

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21. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #21 28th June 2010, 18:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz go for standard ones, ignore these 'uprated ones'

    I got uprated ones on my GTI, fecking hate them.

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22. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #22 28th June 2010, 18:36

    Having fitted a few of them for people I can say that some of them are a bitch to fit, others fine, and can be utter pain to remove in the future.
    
    I'm sure they do 'tighten' up the gearchanges.
    
    Personally, I would rather run the oem shifter rods with a bit of 'play'/rubber in them to try and minimise any damage to synchro rings than mash it into gear. Some peopel swear by them though so they must do something to the gearchange
23. stonex Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Fleet Posts: 684 Corsa C Clio mk 2 Focus

    #23 9th July 2010, 11:09

    right, i've finally got all my parts togetherrrr and was just wandering how much you think a garage should charge to do the work...so i dont get mugged off. I understand theres guides on here on how to change the linkages but i am not confident enough to do so.
    
    I need parts 1,2,4,4,5 replacing however my 2 looks different? i will get some pictures.
    
    Basically i would just be paying labour. Any rough ideas?
    
    thankyou