Please help, MOT fail!!

1. KimCorsa L-plater Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 39 Citroen Saxo Westcoast 1.4 Mk1

   #1 22nd June 2010, 19:03

   Hi there I just got my Saxo West coast 1.4 back from the MOT garage where she sadly failed on the emissions.
   She only failed on both fast idles on the CO. Everything else passed.
   We got given a fuel system clean and told to drive her around a bit with high revs the clean out the system but that didn't work resulting in another fail!
   
   I just got a new Lambda sensor fitted and I'm not so sure what else I can do to try and help her pass.
   Does anyone have any ideas to what it can be?
   
   The garage seem to think its the Cat but I thought that would affect all the emissions not just the CO. Please help.
   
   Kym
2. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #2 22nd June 2010, 19:07

   ive had an astra and my vtr fail on emmisions both times i changed the cats and they both passed
3. KimCorsa L-plater Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 39 Citroen Saxo Westcoast 1.4 Mk1

   #3 22nd June 2010, 19:14

   Okay does the Cat mostly deal with just the CO emissions then?
   Thanks
4. user_38811 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Sawtry Posts: 3456 Saxo VTS Saxo VTR

   #4 22nd June 2010, 19:14

   My vts failed first time on dodgy cat but changed the cat's over then sorted pass real easy after that!
5. KimCorsa L-plater Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 39 Citroen Saxo Westcoast 1.4 Mk1

   #5 22nd June 2010, 19:17

   Ah so should I just try getting a new Cat then and hope that will sort it. Since getting it my cars had too much oil in it could that be a factor to the fail?
6. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #6 22nd June 2010, 19:18

   no but excess oil can damage the cat
7. KimCorsa L-plater Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 39 Citroen Saxo Westcoast 1.4 Mk1

   #7 22nd June 2010, 19:18

   Oh the garage that carried out the MOT are offering to buy and fit the Cat for £120-£150 is that a good price?
8. KimCorsa L-plater Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 39 Citroen Saxo Westcoast 1.4 Mk1

   #8 22nd June 2010, 19:20

   ah that's probably the answer too the problem then i bought new oil and a filter just change it after she passes MOT *crosses fingers*
9. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #9 22nd June 2010, 19:45

   price to supply and fit cat isn't that bad really, about the going rate provided its a good quality one and not a no-name special!
10. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #10 22nd June 2010, 19:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KimCorsa Oh the garage that carried out the MOT are offering to buy and fit the Cat for £120-£150 is that a good price?

    Yeah that's reasonable mate!
11. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #11 22nd June 2010, 20:10

    my garage got me a cat for £80 so if your bill came in at £150 thats £70 labour, id tell them to do 1 and ill fit it in 10 min lol
12. KimCorsa L-plater Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 39 Citroen Saxo Westcoast 1.4 Mk1

    #12 22nd June 2010, 20:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz my garage got me a cat for £80 so if your bill came in at £150 thats £70 labour, id tell them to do 1 and ill fit it in 10 min lol

    Haha yeah if you got it at that price i would expect them to be extremely fast at fitting it!
    
    I would look around for a better price its just i want it done, that garage have been awesome they aren't classing any of the retests as a test until she passes, which is hopefully tomorrow as shes booked in again, if she fails i will be asking the guy to do whatever it takes to make her pass!
13. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #13 22nd June 2010, 21:03

    did you ring dingbro kim
14. toxic Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 772

    #14 23rd June 2010, 01:12

    hi there sounds like you cat, mine did the same last year
15. Cammy Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Aberdeen Posts: 2211

    #15 23rd June 2010, 01:19

    dont bother with dingbro, phone up GSF parts - they will sort you out.
    
    Dingbro's retail is actually more expensive than any other retailer, but GSF is where we get our parts from for trade, just ask if you can get discount - and its always overnight delivery if you order before 4:30
16. Kev_Vtec Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 norfolk Posts: 3116 my drifter M3 rep :D saxo vts eh glad its gone,

    #16 23rd June 2010, 01:22

    try ecp euro car parts also do trade aswell
17. johny105 L-plater Joined: Jun 2010 wakefield , west yorks Posts: 80 2000 hyundai coupe. 2.0 se 2002 mitsubishi galan

    #17 23rd June 2010, 02:25

    did they give you any printouts with actual figures?
    post em up if they did,
    
    too much oil in the engine could cause an emissions failure due to the excess oil being burnt in and thrown out the exhaust. you would have noticed blue smoke also . but thats unlikely tbh . johny
18. stevyj Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 skipton Posts: 401 metro rio grande pug 306 dt corsa 8v sri tuned

    #18 24th June 2010, 23:49

    did you take car for a good run on motorway before test that helps with emissions due to cat being nice and warm
19. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #19 25th June 2010, 00:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevyj did you take car for a good run on motorway before test that helps with emissions due to cat being nice and warm

    see everybody says this...
    there is a reason why the car is left running during the MOT! so it stays hot.
20. kc-saxo Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Edinburgh Posts: 1671 Mk2 VTR

    #20 25th June 2010, 00:07

    taking the car for a good blast , high revs, high speed does help with emissions as it helps clear the crap out the car.
21. Mrk1 Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Bristol Posts: 1358 Mk2 VTS

    #21 25th June 2010, 00:29

    If lambda doesnt sort fast idle its gunna be the cat, if the cats knackered only a replacement will pass. Not a bad price but you're better off buying one from somewhere reputable like ECP or GSF and getting someone to fit as its a simple 10minute job and you'll only be paying a garage for the time it takes to get it on the ramp. 3rd time lucky
22. user_43359 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Shavington Crewe Posts: 828 MK2 Saxo VTR 51 PLATE

    #22 25th June 2010, 22:59

    just get a dodgey MOT extra 20 quid round here