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  1. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #1
    i took my dials off to change the LED's and when i was removing the air bag and steering wheel i seen this thing below

    there are 2 copper wires in it what is it? and its broken and when the wires touched the car will now not start and i have checked the fuses and all are ok what can i doo

    this is what it looks like close up, i tryd to tape the wires so they wouldnt touch!

  2. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #2
  3. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #3
    on the first photo its the center bit with the air bag wire coming out of it thats the thing that the copper wires are coming out of! HELPP car wont start at all no electrics are working
  4. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #4
    anyone ??? does anyone know what that little circular thing is? can i just chop it off and why wont my car start has it blown a fuse orr??? HELP IM IN DEEP SHIT
  5. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #5
  6. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #6
    i have tape on it there but there are 2 bare copper wires running from it to the orange wire for the airbag! ??
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl
    #7
    Should of disconnected the battery, it might of activated the airbag system.

    Open the bonnet and on the top far right hand side there is a Big red Button. Try and push it. it.

    that thing you were talking about is the Self canceller/airbag module.
  8. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #8
    i will go down now and try it what happens then ? if the wires touch again? or can i remove them completele?
  9. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #9
    i removed the battery but when i went to test the bulbs again after re soldering they didnt work so i tryd again and again and on the 3rd time this happend
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl
    #10
    Well its your airbag module so if you want to have no airbag then go ahead it shouldn't do any harm, upto you though. and it acts as a self canceller for the indicators so you won't get that anymore.
  11. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #11
    just pressed it turned the keys and still no joy
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl
    #12
    ok may sound silly but is your battery connected?? lol forgot to reconnect it?? and what does it do does the lights illuminate?? Do your Hazard lights work?
  13. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #13
    what do you mean i wont get the anymore? no more indicators?
  14. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #14
    no mate the battery is conected "/
  15. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #15
    and no lights aluminate nothing works atall!!
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by liamowen123 View Post
    what do you mean i wont get the anymore? no more indicators?
    the Self Canceller won't work if you remove that item, so when you indicate it wont cancel by itself you will have to take the indicator off.
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by liamowen123 View Post
    and no lights aluminate nothing works atall!!
    Sounds like a battery problem, check the condition of the connections on the battery. and check the voltage in the battery.
  18. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #18
    awhh rite i get you ! so if i had a steering wheel that came without and airbag would i have to cancel them myslef then aswell?
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #19
    when you replace the module there's a little cog with an orange arrow on it. make sure the orange arrows line up when you replace it. Dont know why that's important but it was mentioned in the haynes manual.
  20. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #20
    just went down wire brushed the conection points and re conected and still no fuckin joy !!! omg i think i have screwd my car form jsut wanting to change my dash lights!!
  21. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by holdawayt View Post
    when you replace the module there's a little cog with an orange arrow on it. make sure the orange arrows line up when you replace it. Dont know why that's important but it was mentioned in the haynes manual.
    where can i buy one of thoes modules ?i think mines brown bread and my ciurcit board for my dials "/ one huge fuck up this has turned out to be!
  22. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #22
    wow, never heard of anyone mess up a bulb change this badly. you sir deserve a medal! when i changed my dials i held the airbag module (round thing) in one hand and followed the orange cable behind it until it reached the orange clip. unclipped that and pulled it all out to withdraw it. the two wires you're on about should really be insulated.
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #23
    go to a scrap yard, wont cost much
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  24. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #24
    and if i buy a new one the car will start again ?
  25. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #25
    rite just had another look and found that the battery is not giving out any power at all ! so i have poped that on charge but what could have caused it to stop woring??

    and with the round thing i have taken in out by the clip like holdawayt said and am now going to cut and re solder the wires back on the points and re place the broken pice of plastic that came off it as i found it on the floor under my pedals
  26. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #26
    as for the LED's i have soilders them on 50 diffrent ways and none of them seemd to work ! i tested each bulb and they are all fine but just wont light up on the dash power ? whyy ?
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #27
    because the car has a dead battery
  28. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by holdawayt View Post
    because the car has a dead battery
    no the battery is fine now mate and i got 2 bulbs working ! lol wich is an improvement but i cant seem to get the others my car is a 1.1 and i looked at the way to put the LED's on a VTR but i only have 3 speedo things and there arnt that many LED's so what is the gernal rule positive up or down on the vertical or possitive right or left on sideway LED's?
  29. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 skipton Posts: 401 metro rio grande pug 306 dt corsa 8v sri tuned
    #29
    the longer leg on an led is the positve
  30. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevyj View Post
    the longer leg on an led is the positve
    they havnt got legs mate they are flat
  31. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Redcar Posts: 1971 2000 Posi Blue vtr
    #31
    Look here for polarity:

    http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=595865

    You might need a multimeter to find out wchich connection is which on your dash or alternatively follow the "tracks" of the instrument wiring.
  32. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #32
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stevo123 View Post
    Look here for polarity:

    http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=595865

    You might need a multimeter to find out wchich connection is which on your dash or alternatively follow the "tracks" of the instrument wiring.

    what am i looking for if i follow the "tracks" any pics would be a grate help
  33. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #33
    to find the + and - on the leds use a multi meter, as for finding it on the circuit board the guy who did mine, who is a whizz with a solder iron said he wasn;t able to tell +and - on the board its self. but also said if your not de soldering the old leds properly and are soldering and resoldering same leds you could be cooking the leds so thats couls be one reason, or in worst case you may have cooked your circuit board
  34. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #34
    can you buy ones all redy done to plasma blue ? this is stupidly hard!
  35. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #35
    guy on here does them, ryan_ i think. if u find him has the info in his sig.
  36. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 pontyclun Posts: 276 citroen saxo forte 1.1 2002
    #36
    how do i look him up? "/