Spraying bumpstrips gloss black

  1. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #1
    hey dudes!!!

    okay ive been reading up a little on the bump strips

    would i be right in saying

    sand down,plastic primer,sand
    ,normal primer sand
    ,then gloss black 5-6 coats

    also i found out the other day that my dad has one of these

    http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...buys2_5174.htm

    ive never used it neither has he,now would i be better using this or just using spray cans?

    if the compressor is better,what psi would be ideal and do i need any special paint ?
  2. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Ba3 Posts: 246 VtFurio ;)
    #2
    used halfored plastic filler primer. fills in all the bits you dont rub out. what i did on my corsa was rub down, coat of filler primer, then rub down again. then more filler primer and rub down with 800grit wet and dry, then 1200wet and dry. smooth as a babys ass.
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 glasgow Posts: 739 SAXO VTR
    #3
    mate you would be better using rattle cans if you use the compressor you will need the gun that goes on the end to put paint in and then you would have to go out and get thin paint if you spray it in the gun from the can it will just keep clogging up and spitting air out and then abit of paint and so on if you get me but upto you if you want to try it but if it was me i would just use the spray cans less hassle unless you know what your doing with a compressor

    thats the sort of gun you would prob need for it somthing along them lines with the paint pot on the top like that or at the bottom of the gun


    hope this helps mate gaz
  4. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 torquay Posts: 924 Citroen saxo MK2 VTR
    #4
    you will need a gravity fed spray gun like gaz has stated above .. you can go to halfords and buy a tub of the correct paint for about 16 pounds this paint does not need hardener when you mix the paint you will need 10% of solvent thinners and then the paint will the right viscosity for the spray gun to work efficiantly on top of that you do need clear laqure but i belive that halfords mix that up to but to save money i would use the rattle can primers... i would recomend useing the spray gun becuse you will get a really glossy finish and will last alot longer i have sprayed mine twice now and i am going to be getting a proper gun and compresser to do them again
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 torquay Posts: 924 Citroen saxo MK2 VTR
    #5
    guns are very chep but you will need a hvlp one ... (high volume low pressure) as you use alot less air
  6. Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate
    #6
    Better off with rattle cans mate just for the bump strips,using the compressor you will end up masking nearly all the car off due to the overspray dust.Use the halfords gloss black rattle cans,and you dont need clear coat with these as its cellulose paint.Just flat down with 1200-1500 wet and dry after it hardens,and compound with g3,job done.
  7. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #7
    it came with the gun i think?

    came with a few guns acctually not sure if there the correct ones though

    "Accessory kit includes: gravity feed spray gun, professional spray gun, long nozzle sprayer/paraffin gun, blow gun, long nozzle extension for blow gun, jet blast wash gun, tyre inflator, 7 piece inflator/deflator set for footballs, li-los, inflatable boats, etc "


    also doesnt it crack if you just use filler primer?

    shouldnt you sand all the texture away then prime and spray?
  8. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #8
    i work in a bodyshop and we fully sand down/detexture plastics and never use filler primer
  9. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #9
    yea thought so,so detexture,then plastic primer,3 coats? then spray it
  10. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #10
    in work we use this like clear stuff that you just do a quick coat or 2 of, called plastic promotor or something and then can use normal primer over the top

    once dry, wet sand the primer with around 1000 grit wet and dry sandpaper, clean thoroughly and then paint
  11. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
    #11
    just get it done at the shop it will be so much more easier pal
  12. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    just get it done at the shop it will be so much more easier pal
    true, but i'd make sure the bodyshop did them properly, alot of cowboys and bodgers out there saying they are professionals
  13. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
    #13
    then you take it to a shop that you no are good
  14. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #14
    think i pretty much made that point
  15. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    think i pretty much made that point
    nice one well done am sure he will like you
  16. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #16
    ofcourse he will, i gave him good advice
  17. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #17
    the reason im doing it myself is

    1. its cheaper
    2. id rather learn how to do it.
  18. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
    #18
    with all the prep work and cans your gunna need it will just be about the same price as
    a shop will be able to do it for you plus a shop is gunna be alot better than you will be
    able to get it mate good luck if you are doing it your self
  19. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #19
    actually it won't cost anywhere near as much as a bodyshop
  20. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
    #20
    corse it will i got 4 spray cans not to long ago anf they come up to 25 pound and your telling me its not yea rite you are gunna need like 20 cans to do it if not more
  21. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 southnormanton Posts: 565 saxo 1.4
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    actually it won't cost anywhere near as much as a bodyshop
    YEP your right there mate. Body shop will charge ought from 100-200. If you do it your self will cost like 40-50 if that Its easy to do when you know how just have some practice first on a old buper or summet just to get the hang of it
  22. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 southnormanton Posts: 565 saxo 1.4
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    corse it will i got 4 spray cans not to long ago anf they come up to 25 pound and your telling me its not yea rite you are gunna need like 20 cans to do it if not more
    20 cans of spray hahahhahaha no way! And dont use cans use paint and put it thru the gun. Half litre of paint will piss it all and you will have some spare
  23. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #23
    no your not going to need that many cans, 2-3 primer and 2-3 gloss black is all you will need

    obviously don't know what your talking about, i do
  24. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #24
    yea im going with mirrors advice,i might try the compressor,but i can decide that after the prep which is the main part anyways,just need a nice warm day.

    yea it wont be anywhere near the price a shop would charge
  25. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #25
    if you do it with a gun then you'll only need half litre of gloss black 2 pack, hardener and about half litre-litre of thinners, looking at 25-30 quid in materials
  26. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 southnormanton Posts: 565 saxo 1.4
    #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nathan818 View Post
    yea im going with mirrors advice,i might try the compressor,but i can decide that after the prep which is the main part anyways,just need a nice warm day.

    yea it wont be anywhere near the price a shop would charge
    Good on you mate. Take your time and dont rush it. Mask it all before you prep so you dont scratch your bodywork etc. Then mask again after uve prepped it all. Good luck mate
  27. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    corse it will i got 4 spray cans not to long ago anf they come up to 25 pound and your telling me its not yea rite you are gunna need like 20 cans to do it if not more
    Lmao, spraying bumpstrips not battleships
  28. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 southnormanton Posts: 565 saxo 1.4
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lew_C View Post
    Lmao, spraying bumpstrips not battleships
    He was a proper joker!! Made my day that has
  29. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
    #29
    who,s a proper joker
  30. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    who,s a proper joker
    YOU!
  31. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 southnormanton Posts: 565 saxo 1.4
    #31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    who,s a proper joker
    The person who said he will need 20 cans to spray bump strips
  32. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #32
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    who,s a proper joker

    he means you
  33. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    if you do it with a gun then you'll only need half litre of gloss black 2 pack, hardener and about half litre-litre of thinners, looking at 25-30 quid in materials

    sorry, forgot about primer aswell, that will be £10-15 on top, still total is alot less than a bodyshop
  34. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #34
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    if you do it with a gun then you'll only need half litre of gloss black 2 pack, hardener and about half litre-litre of thinners, looking at 25-30 quid in materials
    yea

    the thinner makes it spray able?

    what does the hardener do ?

    is it just normal gloss black in a tin?


    so the to buy list is...

    3 primer
    gloss black half litre
    hardener?
    half litre of thinner
  35. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    who,s a proper joker

    i've now read quite a few threads where you try to give advice and everytime it is useless, unless you actually know about the subject don't post useless advice

    especially bodywork, let the pros give out advice
  36. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nathan818 View Post
    yea

    the thinner makes it spray able?

    what does the hardener do ?

    is it just normal gloss black in a tin?
    to spray through a gun you need to mix the 2 pack gloss black with a hardener and thinner, if you don't use the hardener it won't ever dry/go hard and the thinner makes it possible to spray through a gun

    the best advice i can give you is look in yellow pages for local paint/bodyshop suppliers and go to them, they will tell you what you need and should be able to get measuring sticks from them that have the ratios on them so you can mix the paint correctly
  37. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
    #37
    wow all of give your self a pat on the back cant be arsed to write in this thread no more
    gess ya think you hard with a pc lmao kidds with toys haha
  38. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #38
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    wow all of give your self a pat on the back cant be arsed to write in this thread no more
    gess ya think you hard with a pc lmao kidds with toys haha

    hahaha, you cba because you've been OWNED
  39. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 grimsby Posts: 1421 citron saxo vtr 1.6i
    #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    i've now read quite a few threads where you try to give advice and everytime it is useless, unless you actually know about the subject don't post useless advice

    especially bodywork, let the pros give out advice
    fuck off you daffed cunt
  40. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 southnormanton Posts: 565 saxo 1.4
    #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    wow all of give your self a pat on the back cant be arsed to write in this thread no more
    gess ya think you hard with a pc lmao kidds with toys haha
  41. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    fuck off you daffed cunt
    actually i think you should just fuck off, its people like you who give terrible advice to people who don't know what they are doing and then they fuck up their cars
  42. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR
    #42
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaunsvtr View Post
    wow all of give your self a pat on the back cant be arsed to write in this thread no more
    gess ya think you hard with a pc lmao kidds with toys haha
    lmao,
    sorry e-warrior but you got done mate. Don't post if you don't know, at the end of the day the 'advice' you offered was utter bollocks and made at least 3 people think what the hell are you talking about?! 20 cans of spray paint to spray some rub strips, they don't do fun size spray cans where I'm from son!
  43. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #43
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lew_C View Post
    they don't do fun size spray cans where I'm from son!

    hahahaha, you sir are my hero
  44. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    to spray through a gun you need to mix the 2 pack gloss black with a hardener and thinner, if you don't use the hardener it won't ever dry/go hard and the thinner makes it possible to spray through a gun

    the best advice i can give you is look in yellow pages for local paint/bodyshop suppliers and go to them, they will tell you what you need and should be able to get measuring sticks from them that have the ratios on them so you can mix the paint correctly
    theres a local place ive been to before,they had to mix my green for my car,pretty helpful so ill try them


    thanks alot

    whats this "2 pack" gloss black ? ?
  45. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 southnormanton Posts: 565 saxo 1.4
    #45
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lew_C View Post
    lmao,
    sorry e-warrior but you got done mate. Don't post if you don't know, at the end of the day the 'advice' you offered was utter bollocks and made at least 3 people think what the hell are you talking about?! 20 cans of spray paint to spray some rub strips, they don't do fun size spray cans where I'm from son!
    QUALITY
  46. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nathan818 View Post
    theres a local place ive been to before,they had to mix my green for my car,pretty helpful so ill try them


    thanks alot

    whats this "2 pack" gloss black ? ?
    pretty much all gloss paint is 2 pack, means it doesn't need lacquering, its like already in the paint
  47. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 scotland Posts: 1070 Saxo
    #47
    right ill just go to that place and see what they say

    do i need plastic primer for the first coat or just any primer?
  48. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #48
    like i said in work we have this stuff thats like plastic promotor or something and we just do a quick coat or 2 then normal primer because the promotor stuff can't be sanded, but it would probably be cheaper to just get a plastic primer because it has the promotor stuff and primer mixed in one
  49. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Ba3 Posts: 246 VtFurio ;)
    #49
    just dont fuck it up cus if the paint comes off then your looking at another 50-60 quid to start all over again. just make sure you know you can do it first. im getting my done in a garage.

    main reason is i cba to mask up my car lol and i know it will be done better. always get a better finish out of a gun rather than a can imo
  50. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR
    #50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nathan818 View Post
    right ill just go to that place and see what they say

    do i need plastic primer for the first coat or just any primer?
    imo plastic primer first then filler primer to conceal any of the fine scratches etc.. someone that knows a little more might be able to help you out though
  51. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #51
    don't use filler primer, you shouldn't have any scratches in the plastic if you've worked through the different grades of sand paper

    filler primer is shit anyway
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  52. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR
    #52
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    don't use filler primer, you shouldn't have any scratches in the plastic if you've worked through the different grades of sand paper

    filler primer is shit anyway
    ta for correcting
  53. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #53
    no problem mate
  54. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Ba3 Posts: 246 VtFurio ;)
    #54
    worked ok on my corsa bumpers. but maybe that was because it was the whole bumper. alot more to rub down. but it doesnt stick great. so use normal plastic primer after you rub it down first. and filler primer is only good for very very small scratches.

    just dont jump to much between your grades of grit. and dont start off to rough. use like 220grit (i think thats it) wont leave huge scratches
  55. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #55
    140-180 is what i start with usually and work up, a da sander helps alot here
  56. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Ba3 Posts: 246 VtFurio ;)
    #56
    sander would be a bit of a pain on the bumpstrips. bit of a small and rounded area. last thing you want is to slip and take you door paint off lol yeah 140 would be fine just dont push to hard.
  57. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #57
    true but makes it so much easier, can quite easily slip doing it by hand aswell

    i would totally recommend removing the panels from the cars, whilst on the car you will miss a few areas
  58. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Ba3 Posts: 246 VtFurio ;)
    #58
    yeah less to tape up to. and you dont want the paint running. heard its a pain gettin them all off tho. but if you want a proper job its got to be done
  59. Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 liverpool Posts: 1737
    #59
    primers the worst for getting off, overspray or runs
  60. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Gloucester Posts: 647 saxo mk2 vtr
    #60
    how much will it cost to get this done at an actual garage? rough estimate?? because i got quoted £90 for vinyl wrap, but want to know what the best option would be.

    thanks
  61. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2009 Kent Posts: 4207 Mango cammed furio vts
    #61
    Mine have come out very good done with cans.
  62. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2010 Posts: 6234
    #62
    i used cans on my front splitter and that came out good but the wheels came out shit, fair few runs and dunno what to do to fix it, sand em down again or take them to be sprayed up by a pro
  63. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Ba3 Posts: 246 VtFurio ;)
    #63
    sand them down and do them again. i dont think its alot to get them done pro but its the pride feelin u get wen u do them yourself :L
  64. Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Ba3 Posts: 246 VtFurio ;)
    #64
    i was going to get my done in vinyl. but im worryed how they will turn out. might go dull after a while. it will be alot cheaper than a garage tho
  65. Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 tipton Posts: 248 saxo vtr mk2 51 plate 3.2 omega mv6 02 plate
    #65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mirrorblanks View Post
    true but makes it so much easier, can quite easily slip doing it by hand aswell

    i would totally recommend removing the panels from the cars, whilst on the car you will miss a few areas
    I did mine the other day with halfords gloss black with excellent results.I advise just releasing the top of the panels to avoid sanding through the paint on your door,then you can slot a peice of paper behind it,ok i had to remove interior trims,but not totally to get to some of the clips,as i dident want to break em,but still worth the extra time.