[B]Easiest way to make furios faster[/B]

5th July 2010, 22:14

The only engine mod so far is a K&N Induction kit..

At the moment i havent got much money, any ideas ??

5th July 2010, 22:15

drop it of a cliff then you will get your 0-62 time down to a easy 5seconds

5th July 2010, 22:16

You cant get much power without money im afraid. £300 will see you get a vts engine so thats 120bhp.

5th July 2010, 22:17

thanks for the serious answer..

5th July 2010, 22:18

chuck it off a cliff ... lol

seriously though as i say to everyone else who makes a thread like this DONT BOTHER trying to make it fast, will cost a shed load more to make that car fast over fitting a vtr/s engine or just save up and get a faster car the 1.1 and furio enignes are too under powered to do anything with really, sorry if its not the news you wanna hear but its the truth it would cost ALOT of money to get it anywhere near the same as a vtr neatherlone a vts

5th July 2010, 22:19

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Originally Posted by jstroudy

drop it of a cliff then you will get your 0-62 time down to a easy 5seconds

dam u got there before me lol

5th July 2010, 22:20

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Originally Posted by coleman258

You cant get much power without money im afraid. £300 will see you get a vts engine so thats 120bhp.

exactly to get a furio engine to 120bhp your looking at thousands of pounds or you can pick up a vts engine for £300 thats how much i paid for engine, loom, unlocked ecu and brand new rad and fan

5th July 2010, 22:21

well inless your going to have invalid insurance why would you want to modifi a small engine?you wont gain much from that engine and when you do modifi it and you tell your insurance its going to cost you £££'s to be covered incase you crash

5th July 2010, 22:24

Okey, thanks for your input.. its my first car, i only wanted to get as much out of the engine as i could.. without having to buy a new engine, hopefully i'll be gettin a vtr or vts for my next car

5th July 2010, 22:26

Strip it out.

5th July 2010, 22:26

just leave it as it is and be happy with it is my advise mate

5th July 2010, 22:28

seriously dont do anymore to it cause when you do and you crash and your insurance tells you to fuck off cause you didnt tell them of any of the mods then you will be fucked you licence will go bye bye and your pockets will be turning inside out cause you will be penny less from paying out for the new wall or the over persons car trust me not worth it at all been there and its stung me like a stingray

5th July 2010, 22:29

thanks for the advice guys ! should i just focus on the interior and exterior instead of the performance ?

5th July 2010, 22:31

upto you but by putting more stuff in your car your just going to make it alot slower

5th July 2010, 22:32

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Originally Posted by jamesy_

thanks for the advice guys ! should i just focus on the interior and exterior instead of the performance ?

yea exactly mate, my first car was a 1.3 59 bhp fiesta ( a lot slower than a 1.4 saxo) and all i did was fit some zetec s bumpers/alloys/spoiler and a sound system and i loved it

oh and a massive exhaust and lexarsee lights but that was when i was young/chavvy and naive lol

5th July 2010, 22:53

What would you suggest doing to my saxo, ...

5th July 2010, 23:05

mate for a first car its awesome, wish i could have a car like that for my first!

id get rid of the lexarse lights and the petrol cap and get some mirror caps, dewiper, t-cut badges, flat front wipers, smoked lights, dimma style grille, there are loadssss of little but effective things you can do mate

5th July 2010, 23:07

haha thanks, im new to this car shit.. so could you PM me any decent sites to buy any fo the above and explain what T-cut and de-wipering is etc, i'd greatly appreciate it

6th July 2010, 05:57

Throw everything inside the car out and just keep the clocks and 1 bucket seat

and NOS

6th July 2010, 08:45

mirror caps, shorter aerial. Looks fine otherwise..

6th July 2010, 14:48

cams ? remap ? or once again vts lump

6th July 2010, 15:13

Why can people not have a fast 1.4?
Our 1.4 205 trackcar was faster than most 1.9 gti's over a lap. So it couldnt outdrag a 1.9 with twice the power but that did not matter. Not everyone can afford or even needs the biggest engine.
If you are planning on upgrading to bigger saxo's then stick with modifications that can be swapped directly over.
Suspension is one of the best to do. Something like the Apex kit is cheap and good value
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...saxo-35mm.html

Our exhaust systems are interchangable
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...roen-saxo.html

Then get something like a CG-Lock so you can feel what the car is doing
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...-device-1.html

After that a raceland manifold and a camshaft should liven up the engine a bit more and keep you grinning as you drive.

6th July 2010, 16:32

have alot at my progress thread

alot of money for little gain

better of puttin it towards brakes etc like kam have said

6th July 2010, 16:38

The furios advantage is going to be slightly lower weight. Even then its an iron block so its the head difference only. If you want to stick with a small engine then get a 1.3 106 rallye engine, 105bhp as standard, drop an exhaust manifold, cams and exhaust system on, then get lightening the car as much as possible.
Or go and buy a 106 Rallye and sell the saxo. Much easier

6th July 2010, 16:40

my mistake i think

lol
only needs a few more bits and the cars finnished for abit

6th July 2010, 16:54

Get a straight through on it ?

6th July 2010, 16:56

People are forgetting that the 1.4 block is alloy as opposed to the 1.6 block which is cast iron, 1.4 engines are much lighter than the 1.6.

A 1.4 with breathing mods i.e a manifold and an exhaust won't feel much slower than a VTR, even more so if it was fully stripped one.

Best thing. Fully strip it, two bucket seats, 4-2-1 Manifold and an exhaust.
Enjoy it, then when you've saved up drop in a 16v engine.

EDIT: Just notice Kam said the same thing. Should read posts before I post.
Also I thought the Furio block was Alloy, not just the head, learn something new everyday.

6th July 2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by Aly

People are forgetting that the 1.4 block is alloy as opposed to the 1.6 block which is cast iron, 1.4 engines are much lighter than the 1.6.

A 1.4 with breathing mods i.e a manifold and an exhaust won't feel much slower than a VTR, even more so if it was fully stripped one.

Best thing. Fully strip it, two bucket seats, 4-2-1 Manifold and an exhaust.
Enjoy it, then when you've saved up drop in a 16v engine.

EDIT: Just notice Kam said the same thing. Should read posts before I post.
Also I thought the Furio block was Alloy, not just the head, learn something new everyday.

ahh true. Theres me thinking about the 205 blocks and 106 xsi blocks which were iron. I'd still just plonk the rallye engine straight in as a whole though

6th July 2010, 17:08

sort of mirror caps ?

6th July 2010, 17:25

as said, remove le interior

6th July 2010, 17:43

As said previously strip it !!

what quite alot of people don't mention is get rid of the spare wheel thats gotta be a good 20kg's at least !!! i did that on my furio an it did make a bit of difference.

6th July 2010, 19:08

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

Why can people not have a fast 1.4?

because we dont want the kid to waste shit loads of money for not a lot of gain.... the furio engine is 75 bhp to get that quick is going to take a lot of money, also if he can only afford a 1,4 (not saying thats a bad thing before i get hounded!) hes not going to be able to afford to make it quick

like i said its your first car it doesnt have to be fast, just enjoy having freedom and having a smart car!

but kam is right with the brakes/suspension, by all means if you want to fir a vtr engine at a later date then fit cams/manifold/exhaust/ induction kit etc so it can all be swapped over but that little lot is gonna cost a lot if you count in brakes and suspension mods it would only be worth it if you want to fit a vtr engine, if you end up selling or fitting a vts engine it would be a lot of money wasted

6th July 2010, 19:13

ive got a furio as my first car, and i really dont see the point in trying to kid myself into thinking it has tuning potential, when next year i can upgrade, tbh, id make it look nice and enjoy it for that, theres no point trying to make it anything more than that

6th July 2010, 19:13

Haha @ the cliff.

7th July 2010, 02:53

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

because we dont want the kid to waste shit loads of money for not a lot of gain.... the furio engine is 75 bhp to get that quick is going to take a lot of money, also if he can only afford a 1,4 (not saying thats a bad thing before i get hounded!) hes not going to be able to afford to make it quick

like i said its your first car it doesnt have to be fast, just enjoy having freedom and having a smart car!

but kam is right with the brakes/suspension, by all means if you want to fir a vtr engine at a later date then fit cams/manifold/exhaust/ induction kit etc so it can all be swapped over but that little lot is gonna cost a lot if you count in brakes and suspension mods it would only be worth it if you want to fit a vtr engine, if you end up selling or fitting a vts engine it would be a lot of money wasted

There was a guy on here who had a Furio that made 90bhp on Dyno Dynamic rollers, and he had a VTR inlet Manifold and Exhaust.

I would say that is sufficient tuning to do on a Furio and with gains like that it's worth it for the money. Dare I say it may be faster than a VTR due to the weight advantage.

7th July 2010, 08:19

^^^ That guy that your on about is SamuelJohnBurgess.. he made 87bhp and he also had it cammed but it's not even been mapped yet !

7th July 2010, 10:50

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

because we dont want the kid to waste shit loads of money for not a lot of gain.... the furio engine is 75 bhp to get that quick is going to take a lot of money, also if he can only afford a 1,4 (not saying thats a bad thing before i get hounded!) hes not going to be able to afford to make it quick

like i said its your first car it doesnt have to be fast, just enjoy having freedom and having a smart car!

but kam is right with the brakes/suspension, by all means if you want to fir a vtr engine at a later date then fit cams/manifold/exhaust/ induction kit etc so it can all be swapped over but that little lot is gonna cost a lot if you count in brakes and suspension mods it would only be worth it if you want to fit a vtr engine, if you end up selling or fitting a vts engine it would be a lot of money wasted

A bigger engine comes with more downsides financially than buying parts. Running costs, insurance, tax etc are all more.
There are downsides such as worse handling. In my opinion the best pug 205 i've driven for handling was the lighter TU engined ones. The GTI is more nose heavy though has more grip and more grunt.
The fastest car is not always the one with more power, but the better balanced combination of power, chassis and tyres.

7th July 2010, 16:22

drop a vts in it

and smoke head lights ermm get that petrol cap off as well

7th July 2010, 23:02

I like the petrol cap..
Going to smoke the headlights this weekend

Hopefully will be getting lowered too
cant afford to put a VTS engine in it, and if i crash insurance will be voided :/

7th July 2010, 23:05

strip it out, full exhaust system, decat, filter and that's about it unless you wanna go into cams and stuff but I would just wait a bit and get a VTS as ive got a VTR now and waiting till my insurance drop then getting one

7th July 2010, 23:06

Read the fucking stickies!

Mainly the one boldly entitled:

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Makes me wonder why people waste their time writing all this information.