Important! : trouble Fitting 16v in!!!

1. cookski27 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 birmingham! Posts: 213 matt black the cunt!! aka the beast!

   #1 6th July 2010, 09:45

   ellow people! Think ive got a bit of a problem got a mk1 vtr, ive brought 16v engine but its out of a pug gti, s reg, just about to fit it an noticed the engine loom plugs are different at the end! Got two round screwin connecters at the end of the loom but only have one round connecter plug on my vtr loom, im stuck!!, is it cuz I got a pug gti engine or is it the same on the vts? What do I need to do? Thanks people if u can help me out!
2. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #2 6th July 2010, 09:49

   It's because it's a pug engine

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3. cookski27 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 birmingham! Posts: 213 matt black the cunt!! aka the beast!

   #3 6th July 2010, 21:17

   So if I get a vts loom would that sort it out? An I had spark plug leads on my vtr and on the gti engine is a coil pack! Would the loom sort that out or do I need an 16v engine with spark plug leads?? Or are all 16v vts/gti
   engines coil packs?? Thanx
4. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #4 6th July 2010, 21:17

   get a vts loom
   
   use a vts coil pack
5. cookski27 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 birmingham! Posts: 213 matt black the cunt!! aka the beast!

   #5 22nd July 2010, 12:41

   i can get hold of a vts loom off ebay but from a 51 plate vts will it work on the r reg engine??
6. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #6 22nd July 2010, 12:43

   doubt it.
7. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #7 22nd July 2010, 12:44

   depends weather its made for a single or three plug ecu im guessing it will be to new to be a single plug
8. robut Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 South Wales Posts: 282 '00 Furio 16v

   #8 22nd July 2010, 23:35

   welshpug, was your 309 at pencoed car show about 2-3 months ago?
9. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

   #9 22nd July 2010, 23:45

   You need a 16v engine loom single plug. if your ecu on the 106 loom is currently single plug you will not need a new coil pack. If its 3plug you will need a new coilpack and a few other sensors from a single plug engine
10. paulsupervts84 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 666

    #10 22nd July 2010, 23:46

    after 2000 it went to 3 plug so it would be no good you will need a pre < 2000 vts loom
11. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

    #11 22nd July 2010, 23:50

    you cant have a clear cut date on some 3plug vs single plug since some sat unregistered and the likes though. If it is 3 plug he will want a new ecu, loom, coilpack, tps, knock sensor, water temp, oil temp and possibly reverse sensor. Some of the wiring can be adjusted to suite, for example the alternator wirings different too but he will 100% need to swap the coil and tps sensor.
    
    You can wire a 3 plug into a single plug car though, or vice versa it just requires them to be fairly versed in reading the wiring diagrams for both looms
12. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

    #12 23rd July 2010, 06:53

    You can alter the wiring on the coilpack, to make it work
    think 2 wires just need swapping
13. paulsupervts84 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 666

    #13 23rd July 2010, 13:16

    it just number 3-4 cable on the coil pack you need to swop around
14. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

    #14 23rd July 2010, 14:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Olly You can alter the wiring on the coilpack, to make it work think 2 wires just need swapping

    Yep tis true, it does mean having a thin wire for the live though rather than the thick one iirc. Not ideal
15. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #15 23rd July 2010, 14:38

    there is a clear date, build code, not registered on date
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robut welshpug, was your 309 at pencoed car show about 2-3 months ago?

    Naah not mine, someone down in that area has one too, I think the same guy has a 205 1FM and a caged Turbo Technics 205.
    
    Mine has only been on the road the last month, before that parked up for 3 and a bit years.
16. robut Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 South Wales Posts: 282 '00 Furio 16v

    #16 23rd July 2010, 17:21

    That's a bit of a collection!
    
    Good Read
    
    Sorry for hijacking.
17. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #17 23rd July 2010, 17:29

    loves a bit of Hijacking I do :lol:
    
    I've got a Phase2 MI16, 1.9 205 gti, gti6 engined ZX 16v as well as my Goodwood, which happens to be for sale now.