Can i feel the difference between a 4-2-1 and a 4-1?

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Soton - Hedge End Posts: 3143 TT 225, Charged Eunos
    #1
    Been offered a 4-1 piper fanimold for my vts quite cheap but i was allways planning on a 4-2-1.

    Just wondering if ide really feel a difference? AFAIK the 4-1 is just a increase in the higher range and a 4-2-1 is more mid to low revs?
  2. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S
    #2
    Where did you get them stickers on the rear bumper mate, and in my experiance i prefer 4-2-1 manifolds..but thats just me
  3. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #3
    Marginal I'd say.

    Having a piper stainless 4-1 I have to say the fit is superb and seems to be more 'chunky' than a raceland
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Soton - Hedge End Posts: 3143 TT 225, Charged Eunos
    #4
    Hmmm... might just go for the piper in the end then.

    Just dont want to be getting this fitted and then allways wanting a 4-2-1

    And its not a sticker its just a edited image...
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #5
    what ross said I noticed little diff
  6. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #6
    Tbh you'll enjoy either, but saying that, I don't think the standard 16v manifold is that bad.

    Piper will last long and resale should be okay - just depends on price.

    Craig - clean your engine bay as it looks filthy in the procomp pics
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  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Soton - Hedge End Posts: 3143 TT 225, Charged Eunos
    #7
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    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Tbh you'll enjoy either, but saying that, I don't think the standard 16v manifold is that bad.

    Piper will last long and resale should be okay - just depends on price.

    Craig - clean your engine bay as it looks filthy in the procomp pics
    Sounds like ill be buying it then

    And yes i knows its filthy. Is one fo the last things im planning to do though tbh

    Will get like the cam covers etc done yellow then clean all the parts etc
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2009 Los Anglesey Posts: 3416 Ibiza Sport TDI / MK1 VTS
    #8
    I had a raceland 4-2-1 & my mate has a piper 4-1

    I much perfer my 4-2-1, sounds better, and my pulled alot better than his... but his was better at top end range....
  9. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2007 Sunderland Posts: 10341
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Tbh you'll enjoy either, but saying that, I don't think the standard 16v manifold is that bad.

    Piper will last long and resale should be okay - just depends on price.

    Craig - clean your engine bay as it looks filthy in the procomp pics
    Got to agree with this, the standard manifolds are pretty good.
    On my GTI with the pugsport exhaust had 130bhp and 120lb/ft torque.

    There was plenty of low down punch coupled with high end as well. Probably why I never bothered with a Manifold.
  10. Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Aberdeen Posts: 2211
    #10
    I have the Janspeed 4-2-1 and with the milltek compared to standard exhaust, it just feels like a train, pulls well, but after realising that my manifold studs were incorectly tightened and a fu**ed decat gasket i may have lost power, but thats all getting done when the car is back in my hands as its in at the doctor getting a check up on why its running rough.
  11. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953
    #11
    have to agree with previous comments, the standard item is more then adaquate. after id fitted a Janspeed 4-2-1 i felt the car was worse off for it