Electric Superchargers

1. user_43578 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Derby Posts: 256 Mk1 Vts

   #1 8th July 2010, 16:31

   is it worth putting one of these on on my 98 mk1 vtr ?
   they say that they increase horsepower and are better for fuel ?
   and are they easy to fit ?
   cheers
2. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #2 8th July 2010, 16:35

   yeah worth every penny
   
   my mate put one on a mk2 vtr with a backbox its now running 136bhp
3. samueljonburgess Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 bromley Posts: 2728 Nissan S13, Saxo Furio

   #3 8th July 2010, 16:38

   if you put it on backwards it cleans the engine
4. johny105 L-plater Joined: Jun 2010 wakefield , west yorks Posts: 80 2000 hyundai coupe. 2.0 se 2002 mitsubishi galan

   #4 8th July 2010, 16:40

   how can something that give your car more power and more speed (alledgedly) save fuel?
   
   totall shite my friend
   most likely cheap crap from china (irrelevant of what the listing says) it'll run for so long
   then shatter wrecking your engine.
   
   this is just my opinion.
   go for the propper thing or dont bother
5. readie Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 leeds Posts: 2430 05' Clio 182

   #5 8th July 2010, 16:41

   i heard the combo of these and lexus lights add 50bhp!
6. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

   #6 8th July 2010, 16:42

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by -shuggles- yeah worth every penny my mate put one on a mk2 vtr with a backbox its now running 136bhp

   Seriously?!
   
   Here is a dyno graph from when i got mine put on...
   
   

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7. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

   #7 8th July 2010, 16:43

   I've heard that they dont give you that much more power and heard that they're shite
   but up to you mate
8. user_43578 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Derby Posts: 256 Mk1 Vts

   #8 8th July 2010, 16:45

   It says there from america and they've had good feedback from them ..
   what should i do ?
9. samueljonburgess Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 bromley Posts: 2728 Nissan S13, Saxo Furio

   #9 8th July 2010, 16:46

   dont bother if they where amazing wouldnt everyone on here have one?
10. 23carragold Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 4861

    #10 8th July 2010, 16:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -jay-vtr is it worth putting one of these on on my 98 mk1 vtr ? they say that they increase horsepower and are better for fuel ? and are they easy to fit ? cheers

    I would destroy you for even asking such a retarded question. But I'm feeling generous.
    
    There is no such thing. These so called supercharges fuck your engine up completely, and run them at such stupid ranges, and I have seen people have numerous problems from blown head gaskets to ruined sumps.
    
    Think about it. For such a piece of cheap shit, why would people spend thousands of pounds on quality mod's that increase hp a fair bit? If a supercharger like that suddenly increased it, ALL the manufacturers would use it. But they don't because it's utter shit.
    
    If you want to get more HP, you pay good money for it. Never heard of "cheap HP gain" tbh. Next thing you'll be saying a little black box that you simply strap on to your fuel pipe increases HP by 25...
    
    Steer clear of these bullshit mods. FOR LIFE.
11. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #11 8th July 2010, 16:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by samueljonburgess dont bother if they where amazing wouldnt everyone on here have one?

    lol exactly, if you got amazing power gains dont you think a car company who spend millions in research and development wouldn't have clocked on to it by now?
12. johny105 L-plater Joined: Jun 2010 wakefield , west yorks Posts: 80 2000 hyundai coupe. 2.0 se 2002 mitsubishi galan

    #12 8th July 2010, 16:48

    buy one and fit it to your vacuum cleaner
13. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #13 8th July 2010, 16:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lew_C Seriously?! Here is a dyno graph from when i got mine put on...

    yeah, what RR did youget that graph from? you seemed to get a better powercurve than me. is your backbox slash cut or straight? think thats where i could be lossin midrange
14. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #14 8th July 2010, 16:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -shuggles- yeah, what RR did youget that graph from? you seemed to get a better powercurve than me. is your backbox slash cut or straight? think thats where i could be lossin midrange

    i really hope you are taking the piss, no was has he got 137 bhp out of a VTR by fitting an electric supercharger. lol
    
    RR'd at FCS, think 1,000,000 bhp is optimistic but my backbox is a 9" slash cut as 45 degrees, that little back pressure you can see the gasses dribbling out
    
    its s1k bruddddah!
15. user_43578 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Derby Posts: 256 Mk1 Vts

    #15 8th July 2010, 16:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 23carragold I would destroy you for even asking such a retarded question. But I'm feeling generous. There is no such thing. These so called supercharges fuck your engine up completely, and run them at such stupid ranges, and I have seen people have numerous problems from blown head gaskets to ruined sumps. Think about it. For such a piece of cheap shit, why would people spend thousands of pounds on quality mod's that increase hp a fair bit? If a supercharger like that suddenly increased it, ALL the manufacturers would use it. But they don't because it's utter shit. If you want to get more HP, you pay good money for it. Never heard of "cheap HP gain" tbh. Next thing you'll be saying a little black box that you simply strap on to your fuel pipe increases HP by 25... Steer clear of these bullshit mods. FOR LIFE.

    come on now im only a L-Plater ha this is my first sax and no nothing about them just want to make it sound and go a bit better
16. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #16 8th July 2010, 17:00

    if you want it to sound better just get an open coned filter on it
17. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #17 8th July 2010, 17:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gibbo-Vtr if you want it to sound better just get an open coned filter on it

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yummmmy lots and lots of heatsoak.
18. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #18 8th July 2010, 17:03

    and obviously whack a cold air feed on it aswell tho
19. MJ05LLY Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Doncaster Posts: 1616 Audi TTS

    #19 8th July 2010, 17:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -jay-vtr come on now im only a L-Plater ha this is my first sax and no nothing about them just want to make it sound and go a bit better

    lol, you will get used to these lads. Read the FAQ's at the top of the page it tells you bout all the different mods could want
    
    Edit its not top of page Engine FAQ's
20. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #20 8th July 2010, 17:08

    why dont you buy one then see if it actually does work then tell us ?
21. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #21 8th July 2010, 17:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gibbo-Vtr and obviously whack a cold air feed on it aswell tho

    lol i aint got one on mine, sooo lovely and heatsoakey
22. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #22 8th July 2010, 17:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lew_C i really hope you are taking the piss, no was has he got 137 bhp out of a VTR by fitting an electric supercharger. lol RR'd at FCS, think 1,000,000 bhp is optimistic but my backbox is a 9" slash cut as 45 degrees, that little back pressure you can see the gasses dribbling out its s1k bruddddah!

    taking the piss about what?
23. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #23 8th July 2010, 17:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -shuggles- taking the piss about what?

    your mate actually having one on his VTR? lol
24. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #24 8th July 2010, 17:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lew_C lol i aint got one on mine, sooo lovely and heatsoakey

    hahaha neither have i .. i really need one .. i'm looking for a place that does custom pipes
25. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #25 8th July 2010, 17:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gibbo-Vtr hahaha neither have i .. i really need one .. i'm looking for a place that does custom pipes

    buy that tubing off ebay, ive already took my fog light out ready for it, but meh! lol
26. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #26 8th July 2010, 17:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -jay-vtr It says there from america and they've had good feedback from them .. what should i do ?

    you should keep the money in your wallet thats what..
    
    With a very quick and rough calculation the VTR will flow 96 cubic feet/minute of air (i've guessed volumetric efficiency etc)
    
    Then work out the computer fan / electric supercharger
    flow rate (in cfm) = Cross sectional area (in sq. ft) * Velocity (ft/minute)
    
    I'm sure the details are available on their website.
    (My maths are probably as dodgy as the supercharger )
    
    Kev
27. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #27 8th July 2010, 17:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lew_C your mate actually having one on his VTR? lol

    if my mate had one on any car he would get the biggest bitch slap one could get, and he would be called tosspot for the rest of his days
28. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #28 8th July 2010, 17:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lew_C buy that tubing off ebay, ive already took my fog light out ready for it, but meh! lol

    thats a well good idea putting it through your fog light ha if thats what your saying ..
    i know loads of people said get a cold air feed of ebay but i want like a custom one so it looks nice when you lift bonnet up
29. user_43578 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Derby Posts: 256 Mk1 Vts

    #29 8th July 2010, 17:51

    so i shouldnt get one then ?
30. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #30 8th July 2010, 17:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -jay-vtr so i shouldnt get one then ?

    No.
    ...
31. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #31 8th July 2010, 17:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -jay-vtr so i shouldnt get one then ?

    lol are you blind or just retarded?
32. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #32 8th July 2010, 17:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gibbo-Vtr thats a well good idea putting it through your fog light ha if thats what your saying .. i know loads of people said get a cold air feed of ebay but i want like a custom one so it looks nice when you lift bonnet up

    yep, thats what im saying
33. Mike_08 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Birmingham Posts: 2401 Subaru Impreza WRX

    #33 8th July 2010, 17:59

    Lol. Just lol
34. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #34 8th July 2010, 18:09

    If its is this then it will work
    http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/04..._supercharger/
    based on an eaton supercharger....
    if it looks like a computer fan then its shit.
    
    a little 60mm diameter PC cooling fan flows only about 18 cubic feet per minute
    the VTR needs 96 cubic feet per minute at 6500rpm
35. chris84 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 durham Posts: 1218 02 black vts with nitrous!!

    #35 8th July 2010, 18:09

    Yes i say get one, especially after all the positive comments and great reviews from everyone!! If you do post up some pictures for all to rofl!!!!!
36. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #36 8th July 2010, 18:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chris84 Yes i say get one, especially after all the positive comments and great reviews from everyone!! If you do post up some pictures for all to rofl!!!!!

    If you have to ask weather or not you should buy an electric supercharger I really don't think you would be capable of wiring the thing. lol
37. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #37 8th July 2010, 19:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lew_C yep, thats what im saying

    i like it mate i like it ha
    i might rob that idea ha
38. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #38 8th July 2010, 19:12

    I think your question has now been answered!
    
    Could have saved the embarrassment by using the search button