VTR or Starlet GT Glanza

9th July 2010, 07:44

Iv got a blue VTR mk2, with standard mods (legal)...thinking about selling it and getting a Glanza Turbo, what ya think? good or bad move??

9th July 2010, 07:59

every time I see a glanza, I can't help but think about how ugly it is.

9th July 2010, 08:03

sorta remind me of a corsa b.,, would u rate them as a good motar tho?

9th July 2010, 08:29

there certainly alot faster than a VTR, 133 bhp standard iirc..

9th July 2010, 08:32

well iv had mi saxo for about a yr now, just fancy a turbo but not a high insurance bracket lol nothing like the sound of a hks ssqv lol but all serouius,

9th July 2010, 09:01

If you insure a starlet (legally) then it's stupid expensive to insure because there all jap imports.

9th July 2010, 09:14

do it ! i think they're sweet. 2 around my area both white and tbf they both shift pretty well !

9th July 2010, 09:18

Theres about 4240242894024824820 threads asking the same question, you will see how much everyone hates them.

My honest opinion, i think they look horrible and are generally shit cars, they may be fast but they are allways breaking.

9th July 2010, 13:16

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Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

there certainly alot faster than a VTR, 133 bhp standard iirc..

Not too sure about that, have had a few glanza's in my time trying to get away and theres not much difference, its about even for both cars. (and some people may say that i may be speaking crap, but the ones ive came across had their foot to the ground and turbo spooling)

For the price of a glanza, 3.5k? id rather have a saxo that costs £1500 or £2000 and spend £1500 on mods, you'd see much more than a glanza.

IRC, how much does a glanza weigh?

Edit, answered my own question:

Engine 4E-FTE 1331cc DOHC 4cyl EFI-16-valve intercooled turbo engine
Power 100kW (133hp) @ 6400rpm
Torque 157nM @ 4800rpm
Weight 920kg approx
Speed 0-100kmh @ 8sec approx, 0-400m in 16sec approx
Boost Standard boost is 0.8 bar. Boost map sensor can read up to 1.2 bar approx
Features Power steering, climate control, electric windows, keyless entry, 2 cup holders, radio cassette and CD player, 4 speaker system, 14" Alloys, front wheel drive

Specs not far off a VTR, 0-60 is about 1 second quicker on the book, and it even has cupholders.

The Saxo's Kerb weight is ranging FROM 805 kg (1,775 lb) to the VTS size of 935 kg (2,061 lb) - so even a VTR Weighs a bit less than the glanza, and chances are most VTR's are stripped anyways.

9th July 2010, 13:19

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Originally Posted by coleman258

Theres about 4240242894024824820 threads asking the same question, you will see how much everyone hates them.

My honest opinion, i think they look horrible and are generally shit cars, they may be fast but they are allways breaking.

I actually love them, got 2 of them that sit next to my house, theres a glanza and a GT Turbo , one of the workmen at my house came round with a supercharged 5 Door Sierra 2.6 litre engine and the guy was 76 and he was telling me how he was on the dueler at 140 lol

just as ugly of a car but then again, you still want one.

9th July 2010, 13:20

I fuckin love glanza's. I don't care wha anyone says.

I'd say do it. I nearly bought one before I bought my VTR, insured properly its the same price as the VTR for me. But the newer ones are silly expensive. The one I liked was 4k with 60,000 miles. I got my VTR for 1700 with 32k.

9th July 2010, 13:20

800 ish kg

glanza will rape a vtr, and a vts, dont really care what others say, i proved it with my standard gt loads of times, ask shuggles on here, had a play with his vtr just for a giggle, he could hardly see me after a mile.

oh, and the price has dropped right down on them now, can get a glanza now for 2.5 k, spend the other grand on it, youve got 190bhp glanza. aint too bad like.

personally, i would say get a gt turbo, but i may be a little biassed with that.

9th July 2010, 14:11

It's frightening just how much power can be extracted out of the Glanza engines with the right mod's. I personally do like them, not enough to ever buy one though. When I see a nice one I always appreciate it tbh.

9th July 2010, 14:37

-Theyre shit.
-They look like bodykitted micras.
-The interior is piss poor.
-They where made for around town shopping trip for grannys in Japan.
-Theyre umbeliable slow once out of second gear and not racing at the "traffic light gran prix".
-They handlle worse than a Rover.
-They ARE massivly unreliable.

And they expensive to buy.

9th July 2010, 14:50

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Originally Posted by scot-ish

800 ish kg

glanza will rape a vtr, and a vts, dont really care what others say, i proved it with my standard gt loads of times, ask shuggles on here, had a play with his vtr just for a giggle, he could hardly see me after a mile.

oh, and the price has dropped right down on them now, can get a glanza now for 2.5 k, spend the other grand on it, youve got 190bhp glanza. aint too bad like.

personally, i would say get a gt turbo, but i may be a little biassed with that.

dont the GT turbo's have a stronger bottom end than a glanza?

Glanzas are rapid cars, but with that and being forced induction they do have lots of reliability issues.. if you've got the money to run and rebuild then yeah mate go for it.. if not though (which is probably the case) stick with the french tat..

9th July 2010, 16:17

You know youve got probems when a french car is more reliable

9th July 2010, 16:30

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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo

You know youve got probems when a french car is more reliable

LOL at this ^^^

9th July 2010, 16:32

Starbo every time

9th July 2010, 16:35

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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo

You know youve got probems when a french car is more reliable

This is a good point lol

9th July 2010, 16:39

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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo

You know youve got probems when a french car is more reliable

Amen to that

9th July 2010, 16:53

get a gt turbo lighter about same weight as a paxo my g/f has one with 190 h/p and its been perfectly fine with her only downside is they dont handle quite aswell her car has passed a modified s3 before would like to see a vtr do that

9th July 2010, 16:54

also you get a even older version with a 1.3 12v turbo in it put the put a 4efte in and you will have a car that is far lighter than a saxo and faster

9th July 2010, 17:13

Ive had both the Starlet GT and a Glanza and yeh they will out run a VTR.......Glanza 0-60 is 6.9 where as a VTR is 9.1 iirc?

But my Glanza was the most unreliable car ive ever owned........and when standard they aint that fast.......my Glanza was pretty standard all except full exhaust system and air filter relocation and boost was turnt up abit, and my VTS used to leave it for dust

Although if you buy a good one that been looked after and set up right then go for it........but i was looking at some last night and cant beleive how much they have gone up in price........you looking at 3-4k for one now

3 months ago they was around 2-3k

9th July 2010, 23:23

Id love a turbo second car but dont want a starlet why dont you think about getting a turbo diesel or being very unique turboing a saxo 1.5d or turbo diesel engine

I just like the sound and when you have nothing until the turbo kicks in then it hits you like a sledge hammer I find it more fun when you have to be in the right gear at the right revs.

9th July 2010, 23:24

glanza all the way .. there engines always go but a saxo is french.... i love my saxo but a smart glanza is still a head turner......

10th July 2010, 10:16

+1 to that looking like a bodykitted micra.

Was looking into getting one myself...then decided to the s the vtr.

10th July 2010, 12:04

would rather have a glanza tbh, saxos are shit and unreliable aswell!

most of them have been molestered by idiots anyway no wonder you dont see many about anymore, either been crashed or scrapped.

10th July 2010, 12:19

starlets are fine if you have mechanical sympathy like not cold thrashing them almost every one i see gets a cold thrash

10th July 2010, 12:20

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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo

-Theyre shit.
-They look like bodykitted micras.
-The interior is piss poor.
-They where made for around town shopping trip for grannys in Japan.
-Theyre umbeliable slow once out of second gear and not racing at the "traffic light gran prix".
-They handlle worse than a Rover.
-They ARE massivly unreliable.

And they expensive to buy.

well said on all of this! especially the bodykitted micra's!

10th July 2010, 12:26

ANY car is reliable as long as you look after it and use what is correct for it, For me i'd rather have a starlet turbo over a 172 let alone a saxo.

10th July 2010, 12:36

exactly most of the people on here would own a r5 turbo and that is far less reliable than most cars and atleast starlets arnt falling apart my g/f's gt is a 93 and underneath was like new most saxo's are f***ed now

10th July 2010, 12:46

Truth is both saxos and starlets have been owned by idiots and ragged at somepoint in their life!

10th July 2010, 12:54

Personally would buy one standard and do your own performance idea's then look after it, rather than buying someone else's 200bhp starlet which has been well used.

10th July 2010, 12:58

yeah standard would be more sensible. only thing i dont like about my g/f's car is everything costs a fortune one rear disk costs £100 as they have bearings in them stuff like that puts me off them i can get a disk for my 205 rallye for £12 lol

10th July 2010, 16:39

i wouldnt mind a go in a Nissan micra super turbo , they are pretty quick, supercharger gives you maximum boost off the mark and once you hit 3k rpm the turbo charger has spooled up and takes over

, hence constant power with no lag, but pretty rare to get hold of

10th July 2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by scot-ish

800 ish kg

glanza will rape a vtr, and a vts, dont really care what others say, i proved it with my standard gt loads of times, ask shuggles on here, had a play with his vtr just for a giggle, he could hardly see me after a mile.

oh, and the price has dropped right down on them now, can get a glanza now for 2.5 k, spend the other grand on it, youve got 190bhp glanza. aint too bad like.

personally, i would say get a gt turbo, but i may be a little biassed with that.

yep raped something awful, my vtr beat another vtr that had a proven 121bhp so they would rape a vts anyday, doesn't help that scot-ish had a gay sticker

10th July 2010, 20:27

the old starlet gt's look okish but the glanza literally is a micra with a bodykit and an ironing board spoiler on the back.

at 9.5psi mine was at 230bhp a starlet with 210bhp couldn't touch mine so they can't be any lighter imo.

also, not that i've studied a dyno printout from one but i can't imagine a boosted 1.3 being able to produce as much torque as a boosted 1.6

10th July 2010, 23:36

do any of you guys like the look of a glanza turbo over a saxo or 106 id prefer a flipping moped rather than a starlet its like a micra a disgusting car and a corsa not a bad looking car imo but together they make something much worse and they called it the toyota starlet

11th July 2010, 10:40

the notorious cat is the one to ask as he has had a starlet gt a vtr and a 106 gti

11th July 2010, 18:51

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Originally Posted by turbomad

the notorious cat is the one to ask as he has had a starlet gt a vtr and a 106 gti

Ive had a Starlet GT, Glanza, 4 VTR's and a VTS...........and VTS's are quicker unless the starlet/glanza is running like 200bhp

One tried to outrun me it had no chance...........but i got a feeling my VTS is cammed etc

12th July 2010, 11:31

Only thing i don't like about the vts is you need to be 4k upwards to have any real acceleration.

14th July 2010, 10:20

What do you want from your car really is the question I would ask.

If you want straight out speed the starlet of whatever kind would be the better car, if you want to hike about back roads I would say a french car would be the best bet.

As Stefan has said I have owned most of the options, and the best handling cars I've had was my 106 gti and the clio I own now. Fastest was the starlet though in a straight drag.

Starlets are reliable if remotely looked after, same with most cars really.

15th July 2010, 20:03

Glanza's are evil if you put the money into it. A pal of mine has one, all i know is that its got its standard 1.3 block, skyline turbo and its boosting of its t*ts. 230hp at wheels and it must weigh less than a tonne, It bloody moves alright. Shame it looks poo.

16th July 2010, 01:22

hard core joe the turbo in a starlet only spools at 3.5k in the wet they are pretty much undrivable, they dont handle so great either, had a few friends had them, mean time to failure 10k

16th July 2010, 07:11

go for the glanza! some look ugly as standard but with a little work you'll get a decent look and a decent speed