Group Buy finished - Pics and measurements sought after for 106 Safety Devices Cup Cages 12 point

14th July 2010, 21:03

Safety Devices Roll Cage Group Buy

Below is all the information received so far for a group buy for both Saxo and 106 cages in either 6 or 12 point. They have 6 shell strengthening plates which need to be welded in at certain points with the whole assembly then being bolted in. (*See Pics*)

Group buy details and prices for the group buy are as follows:

20% discount on a group buy of 5 or more cages, of a similar type.

50% deposit required on each cage at point of order and the final balance on delivery of cages to us before dispatch.

The cages normally take 4 - 6 weeks from point of order and we would have to order them all together to get the discount.

Carriage costs are £55.00 per cage to UK Mainland addresses (collection is available if you wish)

The Cage options are as Follows:

Prices include VAT and are 20% Discounted For a group buy of 5 or more cages. All cages come with all the required reinforcing plates, bolts and any other fittings with no extra cost

Quote is Valid for 30 days.

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Peugeot 106 Cage.

6 Point Bolt in Cage. Clears normal trim & dashboard. 45mm main hoop.Rear cage with detachable back stays.MSA/FIA Homologated

Front Cage £147.93

Rear Cage, single fixed diagional in removable backstays £201.33

Door bars are optional, you dont need to buy them if you dont want them.

Door Bar LH £43.14
Door Bar RH £43.14

12 Point bolt in cage. Clears dashboard. 45mm main hoop. Rear cage with detachable back stays. MSA/FIA Homologated

Front Cage £176.73

Rear Cage (option 1), single fixed diagional in removable backstays £207.88

Rear Cage (option 2), cross diagional, removable, harness bar, tunnel brace, rear strut brace £303.36

Door bars are optional, you dont need to buy them if you dont want them

Single Door Bar LH £43.14
Single Door Bar RH £43.14

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Citreon Saxo

6 Point bolt in cage. Clears most trim and Dashboard, Door cards must be trimmed.. Mounts to floor and rear wheel arches.

Front cage, for single door bars £158.12

Rear Cage (Option 1), single fixed diagional for single door bars £306.31

Rear Cage (Option 2), Cross diagional, harness bar,tunnel brace, for cross door bars £320.41

Door bars are optional, you dont have to buy them if you dont want them

Single Door Bar RH £39.33
Single Door Bar LH £39.33

Cross Door Bar RH £83.30
Cross Door Bar LH £83.30

OR:

12 Point Multi Point cage. Clears normal trim and dashboard. Mounts to floor and rear wheel arches.

Multi Point front Cage, for Cross door Bars £198.00

Rear Cage (Option 1), Single diagional for single door bars £260.29
or
Rear Cage (Option 2) Cross diagional, Harness bar, tunnel brace, for cross door bars. £348.30

Door bars are optional, you dont need to buy these if you dont want them

Single Door Bar RH £39.33
Single Door Bar LH £39.33
or
Cross Door Bar RH £95.52
Cross Door Bar LH £95.52

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Fitting is available from £500 if required (Not sure what is included for that price, however if your car is already stripped and all you require is the reinforcing plates welding and the cage bolting into place you could have it fitted much cheaper locally i would suggest.

Cage Colours

Traditionally they all come in Powder coated Black.

However, other colours are available at extra cost of £50 per cage, if they were all different , however if say you ALL wanted them white or pink etc then we may be able to get them painted at a cheaper price".

Who is the company who are doing the group buy for us?

Full details for the company who the group buy is with is as follows:

Chris Birkbeck Rally Sport
Low Farm
Ings Lane
Brotton
Saltburn - By - Sea
TS12 2QX
United Kingdom

Phone: +44 (0) 1287 677 512

They are top of the list on the Safety Devices website for official stockists too

http://www.safetydevices.com/stockists/motorsport

When is the group buy taking place and when will payments be required

The group buy price is guaranteed for 30 days, i aim to contact them on Monday to see if they will stretch it to 45 days.

Therefore first payment required by the end of August. Final payment will be required after 4-6 weeks so aim to have final payment ready for end of September.

Group buy details finalised

They are more than happy to extend the guaranteed price beyond the 30 days so that we can pay the first 50% at the end of August.

The 20% discount that were getting is as good as they can do as Safety Devices when supplying dont offer any more than that for bulk orders.

All they require that i get is a full list of names who are 100% in for the group buy, so far there is 8 of us. Ill give this list to them 1 week before the end of August (Monday 23rd August)

You then have just over a week (7 working days) to phone up and give them details of the cage which you require, postal details and of course pay the first 50%.

Tuesday 31st August will be the last day to pay before they place the full order with Safety Devices to get the cages made
.

Current list of people who want a cage:

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

2. Raunchz - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

3. Mr_P - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

4.VTSTomE - 106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

6. DrewO - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - Gloss White - £566.37 + Different Colour + delivery)

7. RallyeMP - (106 12 Point, Front and rear cage with cross diagonal ect / Single door bars. £566.37 + Delivery) - Matt Black

8. SaxoMuffin (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

Pics

These are a mixture of the 106 and Saxo ones

14th July 2010, 21:14

I'll have a think and see what I can do. I was seriously tempted by the RR group buy but couldn't justify spending that much at the time. Easily the best bolt in cage available for saxo/106, can I come back to you in 2 weeks or so?

14th July 2010, 21:16

I'm in mate

especially if the discount is as good as the 106 SD cage groupbuy !!

I'm good to make the first half of a payment early September if that sort of timescale is good with people.

14th July 2010, 21:41

If I get the rise I'm currently fighting for in work then I'm deffo in!

If I don't, then I'll try my best.... lol

14th July 2010, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_P

If I get the rise I'm currently fighting for in work then I'm deffo in!

If I don't, then I'll try my best.... lol

Do it !!!!

14th July 2010, 23:34

I presume it's a dash dodger? I can't quite tell from the pics in link.

As I suck at maths, how much do I need to put aside each week to be able to afford it? £40-50?

15th July 2010, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harv

I'll have a think and see what I can do. can I come back to you in 2 weeks or so?

Yeah of course mate. If we aim for september as a deposit and october for remainder then hopefully thatll give those that are genuinely interested time to save

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_P

If I get the rise I'm currently fighting for in work then I'm deffo in!

If I don't, then I'll try my best.... lol

fingers crossed for you mate that you get the tasty payrise

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

I presume it's a dash dodger? I can't quite tell from the pics in link.

As I suck at maths, how much do I need to put aside each week to be able to afford it? £40-50?

As far as im aware it does dodge the dash. Will certainly be asking that when i call for quotes.

15th July 2010, 14:59

List of those who are interested, please add your names accordingly:

1. Willsy

Questions that you would like asking, please list:

1. Does it dodge the dash?
2.
3.
etc

15th July 2010, 15:44

List of those who are interested, please add your names accordingly:

1. Willsy
2. raunchz

Questions that you would like asking, please list:

1. Does it dodge the dash?
2. What's your best price for a groupbuy

- in all seriousness, what sort of bars can be added to the spec of the cage? Are there different variants of the 'Saxo' cage ?
3.
etc

15th July 2010, 15:47

this the cage i bought from your mate tom willsy?? as the 106 cage listed is different to the saxo one

If so are you going through ABP or wtf their name is,

15th July 2010, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

this the cage i bought from your mate tom willsy?? as the 106 cage listed is different to the saxo one

If so are you going through ABP or wtf their name is,

Not sure which one Tom's was, I know he paid in excess of £800 for his. It was partially weld in with the feet too wasnt it whereas this one seems to be 100% bolt in.

Have not yet rang round for quotes, however the company that did the Rallye Reg group buy would be a good starting point i guess.

15th July 2010, 15:57

the saxo one is the one with welded in box sections which you bolt the cage to and double X bars on the doors.

The 106 one isnt and iirc the saxo one is the dash dodger the 106 one isnt

The plates that come with the bolt in still need welding to the shell on the 106 cage

15th July 2010, 16:08

Just called Safety Devices - theyll be calling me back shortly with full specification

15th July 2010, 16:18

I would be needing a 106 cage by the way....

If that's not a problem I'll join the list.

15th July 2010, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

the saxo one is the one with welded in box sections which you bolt the cage to and double X bars on the doors.

The 106 one isnt and iirc the saxo one is the dash dodger the 106 one isnt

The plates that come with the bolt in still need welding to the shell on the 106 cage

Cheers Ryan,

Have just confirmed this with Safety Devices too to save any confusion.

On both the Saxo and 106 there is mounting plates which need to be welded in which the cage then bolts to.

Saxo one does dodge the dash as does the 106 one for its own dash (106 cage in saxo would require dash trim)

If still using interior parts which i doubt, you would have to cut or ditch the door cards so that the door bars fit

There is still the two options of both a single door bar and a crossed option

Just wondering then what SD cage is the one that Lewisimo and the lad from the other link have as that is 100% bolt in with no welded plates required. Old design perhaps?

They have advised that AB Motorsprot are one of their most popular stockists so ill give them a quick call now and see what prices they can do

15th July 2010, 16:28

Lewisimo already had plates welded in. Hank had done it before the car was resprayed.

List of those who are interested, please add your names accordingly:

1. Willsy
2. raunchz
3. Mr_P

Questions that you would like asking, please list:

1. Does it dodge the dash?
2. What's your best price for a groupbuy - in all seriousness, what sort of bars can be added to the spec of the cage? Are there different variants of the 'Saxo' cage ?
3.
etc

15th July 2010, 16:28

Ah awwesome - I'd go with the single door bar I think, do they do that extra diagonal on the main hoop ?

might be worth giving this bloke a call as he supplied the cages for the last 106 SD cage groupbuy - was a cracking price and beat AB's price hands down.
http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...t=71636&page=2

15th July 2010, 16:30

Bugger slightly too late calling AB Motorsport - opening hours til 4:30 theyve already gone home for the day lol

15th July 2010, 16:30

Cheers Ross, ill try calling him now

15th July 2010, 16:31

Although the first post in that thread has been edited with the price from the bloke in page 2 - im sure the AB price was £700 plus in the groupbuy

15th July 2010, 16:31

And the s1 in the link was just a trial fit as the plates hadn't been welded in yet.

15th July 2010, 16:35

Good news:

Just spoke to the chap who did the group buy for Rallye Reg

He is still more than willing to do another group buy

He's going to get us a price for 5 and a price for 10

He's going to get a price for all the options available too so that will include either single door bar or the double crossed and the additional diagonal on the main B pillar hoop behind t

15th July 2010, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Good news:

Just spoke to the chap who did the group buy for Rallye Reg

He is still more than willing to do another group buy

He's going to get us a price for 5 and a price for 10

He's going to get a price for all the options available too so that will include either single door bar or the double crossed and the additional diagonal on the main B pillar hoop behind t

Wicked !!! If he can get it for a similar price to the 106 groupbuy price then I'm sure we'd easily get 5 people up for it ! Made my day this has

15th July 2010, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_P

And the s1 in the link was just a trial fit as the plates hadn't been welded in yet.

Aha gotcha

This is a pic from Lewisimo's

Ill do some digging for the one with the welded in plates - Took quite a few pics of one a while ago so ill raid photobucket and see what i can find

15th July 2010, 16:41

Welding in the plates wouldn't be too hard or costly to do really - I'm sure some of the geronimo cages that were produced just had the cage bolted in through a plate. The plate wasn't welded to the chassis at all.

I think welding the plate on is the safest bet

15th July 2010, 16:43

http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/th...2-rallye-build

That's Lewisimo's (Hank's old one) See he welded the plates then had the shell sprayed.

Good news on the cage front though

15th July 2010, 16:45

willsy lewis everyone has the 106 cage, the plates still should be welded, like the old OMP dash dodger bolt in, alot didnt weld them in but they still should be.

pm me the supplyer whoever you get other than ABP as i need some weld in box sections

15th July 2010, 16:48

Just found some old pics from my mates old car, this is the cage which Ryan bought off him

15th July 2010, 16:52

Does the Saxo rear cage mount to the rear arches ?

And the 106 one mount to the boot floor at the rear arch/floor join ?

15th July 2010, 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

Does the Saxo rear cage mount to the rear arches ?

And the 106 one mount to the boot floor at the rear arch/floor join ?

Ill ask about that when they call me back with prices.

Whether or not the design has changed a bit over time as from those pics its from 2008 where the B pillar bar is horizontal and not diagonal which they are now.

Id rather have mine mounted to the boot floor i think rather than the arches if possible, if it meant me going for the 106 one and trimming my dash that wouldnt bother me although im sure all sections will be interchangeable to use (if there is any difference) a 106 rear section with a saxo front section or vice versa.

Ill make sure to ask all these questions to clarify

15th July 2010, 16:59

Yeh no worries, I think I'm with you on that one, I'd prefer to mount to the arch/floor join but I really don't know which is stronger?

I'm happy to cut my dash - that's no problem at all !

15th July 2010, 17:10

Would have thought that the section on the boot floor would be most beneficial for strength as its directly on the chassis section where the rear beam bolts to

Again this is a pic from Lewisimos cage when Hank had it fitted

15th July 2010, 17:26

^ ^ I like that location to bolt to - fingers crossed they do the saxo cage that bolts there.

Although tbh, with the 106/saxo shells being pretty much identical, having a 106 cage with the extra diagonal and having to trim the dash would suit me fine if they are cheaper etc.

15th July 2010, 17:31

Im very much of the same opinion. Can't wait to get going with this and have prices confirmed

15th July 2010, 18:40

I really want one but I dont want to put my name down in case i have to drop out, i dont want to let you guys down.

i have added another question though!

List of those who are interested, please add your names accordingly:

1. Willsy
2. raunchz
3. Mr_P

Questions that you would like asking, please list:

1. Does it dodge the dash?
2. What's your best price for a groupbuy - in all seriousness, what sort of bars can be added to the spec of the cage? Are there different variants of the 'Saxo' cage ?
3. Can the cage be powdercoated any colour we want or is there going to be extra costs?

15th July 2010, 19:00

I'm 99% sure they only come in matt black - would be pretty easy to get it blasted and then powdercoated yourself - worth an ask though

15th July 2010, 19:03

oh in that case, black would be fine. black/blue exterior and white/black interior

15th July 2010, 19:23

Yerh they're black only.

They can be supplied un-finished but these are made to order.

15th July 2010, 21:06

im interested, as chris said dont add me to the list until a price has been added

16th July 2010, 12:46

Just woke up from after my night shift, got a txt from the chappy to let me know that hes got all the info and details and he's compiling an email for me which ill be in my inbox this afternoon.

16th July 2010, 12:59

Non of the SD cages bolt to the beam. All of the to the arches or floor(neither have any benefits over each other as neither are to structual parts.)

I will warn that i have seen saxos cages in a saxo and 106 cages in 106's and they do have to trim the dash. Bearing in mind the further down the a pillar it goes the more protection it will give so cutting your dash isnt a massive loss for protection?

16th July 2010, 13:25

I'm 100% in swapping my rallye for another 1 without a sd cage so I'll be after another. I'll be looking for a 106 cage with as many extra parts they do (double door bars, extra diagonal etc!)
List of those who are interested, please add your names accordingly:

1. Willsy
2. raunchz
3. Mr_P
4.VTSTomE

Questions that you would like asking, please list:

1. Does it dodge the dash?
2. What's your best price for a groupbuy - in all seriousness, what sort of bars can be added to the spec of the cage? Are there different variants of the 'Saxo' cage ?
3. Can the cage be powdercoated any colour we want or is there going to be extra costs?[/QUOTE]

16th July 2010, 13:27

Also if it can be provided unfinished/unpainted that will be beneficial as I'll be having mine sprayed.

16th July 2010, 15:13

Right then, email received with the following quotes:

Hi Matt

We can do a 20% discount on a group buy of 5 or more cages, of a similar type.

We would require a 50% deposit on each cage at point of order and the balance on delivery of cages to us before dispatch.

The cages normally take 4 - 6 weeks from point of order and we would have to order them all together to get the discount.

Carriage costs are £55.00 per cage to UK Mainland addresses.

The Cage options are as Follows:

Prices include VAT and are 20% Discounted For a group buy of 5 or more cages.

Quote is Valid for 30 days.

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Peugeot 106 Cage.

6 Point Bolt in Cage. Clears normal trim & dashboard. 45mm main hoop.Rear cage with detachable back stays.MSA/FIA Homologated

Front Cage £147.93
Rear Cage, single fixed diagional in removable backstays £201.33

Door Bar LH £43.14
Door Bar RH £43.14

OR:

12 Point bolt in cage. Clears dashboard. 45mm main hoop. Rear cage with detachable back stays. MSA/FIA Homologated

Front Cage £176.73
with either

Rear Cage, single fixed diagional in removable backstays £207.88
or
Rear Cage, cross diagional, removable, harness bar, tunnel brace, rear strut brace £303.36

Door Bar LH £43.14
Door Bar RH £43.14

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Citreon Saxo

6 Point bolt in cage. Clears most trim and Dashboard, Door cards must be trimmed.. Mounts to floor and rear wheel arches.

Front cage, for single door bars £158.12

Rear Cage, single fixed diagional for single door bars £306.31

Rear Cage, Cross diagional, harness bar,tunnel brace, for cross door bars £320.41

Door Bar RH £39.33
Door Bar LH £39.33

Cross Door Bar RH £83.30
Cross Door Bar LH £83.30

OR:

12 Point Multi Point cage. Clears normal trim and dashboard. Mounts to floor and rear wheel arches.

Multi Point front Cage, for Cross door Bars £198.00
with either
Rear Cage, Single diagional for single door bars £260.29
or
Rear Cage, Cross diagional, Harness bar, tunnel brace, for cross door bars. £348.30
with either
Door Bar RH £39.33
Door Bar LH £39.33
or
Cross Door Bar RH £95.52
Cross Door Bar LH £95.52

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We can also offer a fitting service Prices from £500 dependent on spec of cage..

Hope this is of help to you , and we look forward to hearing from you soon.

16th July 2010, 15:34

Have sent a reply asking about colour options (if available), and also to clarify whether both the saxo and 106 cages mount on the rear arch.

16th July 2010, 15:38

Do you want to start up a list of what people want?

If the 106 bolts to the floor then:

1. Willsy
2. raunchz (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - £566.37 + delivery)
3. Mr_P
4.VTSTomE

I'd almost prefer to cut the dash tbh (by having a 106 cage in a saxo), as means, like Aron says, it follows down the A pillar for longer which can only be a good thing! Plus makes it easier to get into if the front section of the cage is nearer the bulkhead !

Willsy, any chance of seeing where he is based? As could pick them up to save another £55 ?

16th July 2010, 15:44

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars £566.37 + delivery)
2. raunchz (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - £566.37 + delivery)
3. Mr_P
4.VTSTomE

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

I'd almost prefer to cut the dash tbh (by having a 106 cage in a saxo), as means, like Aron says, it follows down the A pillar for longer which can only be a good thing! Plus makes it easier to get into if the front section of the cage is nearer the bulkhead !

Willsy, any chance of seeing where he is based? As could pick them up to save another £55 ?

The decision is made for me too

definately the 106 dash.

Had a look where they are based its right up North: Brotton, Saltburn, TS12 2QX (177 miles from me so postage preferred this time round i think

)

16th July 2010, 15:47

Could anyone who is on 106 OC and Rallye Register as an established member please post up aswel.

At this price between a few forums theres a chance we could get it even cheaper for 10.

16th July 2010, 15:48

I'm on 106 rallye forum so will post a link up now for you

16th July 2010, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

I'm on 106 rallye forum so will post a link up now for you

Legend

16th July 2010, 16:03

Boys and girls this just gets better and better!!!!

Reply to other questions is as follows:

"Hi Matthew

As far as i am aware the Peugeot 106 rear bolts to the Floor and the Saxo rear bolts to the rear arches.

I will see if i can get a Picture or a Schematic Diagram from safety devices for you to confirm this.

Traditionally they all come in Powder coated Black.

Other colours are available at extra cost of £50 per cage, if they were all different , however if say you ALL wanted them white or pink etc then we may be able to get them painted at a cheaper price".

16th July 2010, 16:06

lol at the having them pink.

I'm cool with matt black tbh. looks fine like that.

16th July 2010, 16:08

lol matt black for me aswel. Could you imagine my car pink and yellow - mr blobby alert!

16th July 2010, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

lol matt black for me aswel. Could you imagine my car pink and yellow - mr blobby alert!

lmao

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)
2. raunchz (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)
3. Mr_P
4.VTSTomE

16th July 2010, 16:17

Is that fitting price correct, from £500?

16th July 2010, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenotesmiley

Is that fitting price correct, from £500?

I suppose fitting is only stripping the interior out, welding 6 plates in, spraying the plates and bolting the cage in.

Willsy, do the cages come with a 'fitting kit' ? I presume it comes with the plates you need to weld onto the chassis, and nuts and bolts etc ?

16th July 2010, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenotesmiley

Is that fitting price correct, from £500?

Yes, however im pretty certain that you can find fitting locally much much cheaper than that so havn't paid any consideration to enquiring about an additional discount for multiple fitting price.

Its only really the welding in of the box sections thats labour orientated. Bolting it in yourself wouldnt be an intensive task

16th July 2010, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

Willsy, do the cages come with a 'fitting kit' ? I presume it comes with the plates you need to weld onto the chassis, and nuts and bolts etc ?

Have just emailed him again to double check.

He's emailed Safety devices to get some diagrams sent over to us, likely to receive those on Monday as SD are closed for the weekend now

16th July 2010, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Have just emailed him again to double check.

He's emailed Safety devices to get some diagrams sent over to us, likely to receive those on Monday as SD are closed for the weekend now

Awesome !! Look forward to seeing some pics - I hope you realise you've just pushed my s/c build back a couple of months

!

O well ,better to be safe than sorry !

16th July 2010, 16:31

I'm interested in this, need a cage and these seems good, I'll have a proper read when I get back home from work.

16th July 2010, 16:32

Haha worth every penny mate. My spending over the last month has now become mammoth. Its all very exciting

16th July 2010, 16:33

Here we go - seriously impressed with the quick replies etc from this chap:

"Hi Matthew

Yes they come with full fitting kits, plates bolts etc.

If you need to know any more details please feel free to contact us.

Regards
Paul"

So there we have it. The leg work is done. Everything is confirmed and ready to go

Lets have some more names down

16th July 2010, 16:35

Sweet - I'm in then mate !

16th July 2010, 16:41

I'll make my mind up in cage type when I see some diagrams.... I'm undecided at the moment...

16th July 2010, 17:48

Spec I will be after:-
12 Point bolt in cage. Clears dashboard. 45mm main hoop. Rear cage with detachable back stays. MSA/FIA Homologated
Front Cage £176.73
Rear Cage, cross diagional, removable, harness bar, tunnel brace, rear strut brace £303.36
Door Bar RH £39.33
Door Bar LH £39.33

16th July 2010, 17:51

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)
2. raunchz (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)
3. Mr_P
4.VTSTomE-106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

16th July 2010, 18:15

This looks to be the 106 12point cage

looks spot on tbh (about half way down)

http://s9.zetaboards.com/Shed_motors...pic/7218843/1/

16th July 2010, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

This looks to be the 106 12point cage

looks spot on tbh (about half way down)

http://s9.zetaboards.com/Shed_motors...pic/7218843/1/

Im very much of the opinion that thatll do nicely

16th July 2010, 18:36

Right very interested in this cage guys... however... very busy with money over the next few months... 556 in two payments? One in august? september? Are we talking the end of each month? As thats when i get paid and that would be most best for me to be honest...

Well done for getting this going though

Jason

16th July 2010, 18:47

Jason,

I will enquire with regards to dates. It will certainly be 2 seperate payments. 1 initial one for 50% and then the final one 4-6 weeks later.

Of course theyve initially put that the group buy price is valid for 30 days but if theres significant interest im sure theyre not going to mind holding that for a little while longer to incorportate the first payment being end of August (it is only a couple of weeks extension afterall).

They may want a final list of names within the 30 days at least

Ill find out which method of payment suits them best too, id imagine id give them a list of names of who to expect a call from then you'd need to call to pay the first 50% and give all your requirements and postal addresses etc. Then when they arrive theyll either contact individually or maybe contact me as the organiser to let you know and then call to pay the final funds asap.

I will confirm all this with them though dont worry

They have been very helpful so far and very quick to respond to any questions etc. The guys on RallyeRegister had very positive dealings with them too

16th July 2010, 18:52

Ideally first payment at end of August would be ideal for me but can do sooner if people are eager to get it going!

16th July 2010, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Jason,

I will enquire with regards to dates. It will certainly be 2 seperate payments. 1 initial one for 50% and then the final one 4-6 weeks later.

Of course theyve initially put that the group buy price is valid for 30 days but if theres significant interest im sure theyre not going to mind holding that for a little while longer to incorportate the first payment being end of August (it is only a couple of weeks extension afterall).

Ill find out which method of payment suits them best too, id imagine id give them a list of names of who to expect a call from then you'd need to call to pay the first 50% and give all your requirements and postal addresses etc. Then when they arrive theyll either contact individually or maybe contact me as the organiser to let you know and then call to pay the final funds asap.

I will confirm all this with them though dont worry

They have been very helpful so far and very quick to respond to any questions etc. The guys on RallyeRegister had very positive dealings with them too

Nice one man, i work it out to be 284 (roughly) for two payments of my required specification! that should be manageable! Count me in

16th July 2010, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

Nice one man, i work it out to be 284 (roughly) for two payments of my required specification! that should be manageable! Count me in

Brilliant nice one mate.

Pop your name and specification on the list

16th July 2010, 18:56

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)
2. raunchz (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)
3. Mr_P
4.VTSTomE
5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

16th July 2010, 19:01

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

2. raunchz (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

3. Mr_P

4.VTSTomE-106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)[/QUOTE]

16th July 2010, 19:02

Thats awesome we've got 5 people down already.

Will be great if 10 are interested between Saxp, Rallyereg and 106oc should get us some further discount on what is already an awesome price

16th July 2010, 19:18

love the prices, still need to number crunch though, will add my name hopefully

16th July 2010, 20:08

Think all the questions have been answered, but think I can help with some:

Saxo rear legs bolt onto arches. 106 onto the floor, butting up against the bottom of the arch.

Saxo mounts are taller and the legs bolt on level with the top of the inner door sills. 106 legs bolt onto flat(ish) plates on the floor is shown on the pics of Lewis' cage on preceeding pages where you can see the plates welded in and painted.

106 cage in a saxo (with saxo dash) means the dash needs to be trimmed slightly. The area under the side vents needs to be slotted and the front legs then sit in this space.

Crossed door bars look cool, but can be a pig to get in/out of the car with. Think carefully if you are having this in a daily drive

Heres mine for reference (ignore the 2 rear bars across the rear screen as they are not part of the cage). Its the saxo version:

16th July 2010, 20:37

Thanks for that Andy, the cross door bars do look tempting but not sure I could actually get in the cobra seat with the head protectors!!

Does look ver nice though!!

16th July 2010, 21:08

They are cool, but I struggle getting in even without any interior in at all, And you would deffinately look a twat getting out at work in a moning lol

16th July 2010, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

Thanks for that Andy, the cross door bars do look tempting but not sure I could actually get in the cobra seat with the head protectors!!

Does look ver nice though!!

Mine fit fine with the head protection. And i don't think the cross door bars would effect anything compared to a single bar.
Although my circuit plus is touching the bar. haha. Like it was made to be

16th July 2010, 21:22

I'll post some pics of the 106 cage in my current car if people want more?
It's the 6 point 106 cage with harness bars etc.

16th July 2010, 21:29

the more pics the better

would you lot who have the cage reccomend it to others, for the way it fits etc

obviously access will be reduced with bars but we should all expect that

16th July 2010, 21:36

Mine fitted easy enough

Cant complain about the build quality

16th July 2010, 23:16

all very positive. Thanks for those who are able to assist with the Q's and A's too, always a great help

16th July 2010, 23:22

ill update the first thread on page 1 tomorrow. the details are on rallye register now too, is anyone able to post up on 106 owners?

16th July 2010, 23:37

Ill do it now Willsy.

edit, done

http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/th...94#post1698394

17th July 2010, 01:11

I'll be interested in a 12 point cage for 106. Before i put my name down when you thinking dates of giving payments? Been looking for a safety devices cage for a while.
The time might finally be here lol

17th July 2010, 08:08

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

2. raunchz (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

3. Mr_P - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

4.VTSTomE-106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

17th July 2010, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

And i don't think the cross door bars would effect anything compared to a single bar.

The single door bar is lower than the crossed one, so easier to step out over it. The upper front bar on the crossed version is quite high so you have to pull yourself up out of the car which is a bit undignified lol. Its not a major issue tbh. But I am considering removing that bar on mine or modifying it to sit a bit lower down to make entry/exit a bit easier.

17th July 2010, 11:56

I'm 90% certain I will also have one of these. I won't put my name down just yet as I'm still waiting to buy my R888's from the group buy. When would you be looking to pay the 50% deposit? Ideally I would like it sometime in September but if not i'll just have to dip into the ol' savings

.

17th July 2010, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_K

The single door bar is lower than the crossed one, so easier to step out over it. The upper front bar on the crossed version is quite high so you have to pull yourself up out of the car which is a bit undignified lol. Its not a major issue tbh. But I am considering removing that bar on mine or modifying it to sit a bit lower down to make entry/exit a bit easier.

Yeah,sorry i was talking about in relation to fitting ross' sreats in

17th July 2010, 14:45

does the £566.37 include everything inc strut? and single door bars? im after one in white im off the rallye reg forum

17th July 2010, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewO

does the £566.37 include everything inc strut? and single door bars? im after one in white im off the rallye reg forum

£556+delivery (£620 delivered) is for everything to fit by the sounds of it. That price is for a 106 12point one with rear x and harness bars and single doorbars.

Would be extra money for a White one.

17th July 2010, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harv

I'm 90% certain I will also have one of these. I won't put my name down just yet as I'm still waiting to buy my R888's from the group buy. When would you be looking to pay the 50% deposit? Ideally I would like it sometime in September but if not i'll just have to dip into the ol' savings

.

I'm ideally looking to pay the first 50% at the end of August, but I m happy to go with the majority

17th July 2010, 14:55

end of august is good for me put my name down

and ill have it in white if they can do it cheap enough

17th July 2010, 14:56

and what about the rear sturt is that included in the 620 price tag?

17th July 2010, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

Yeah,sorry i was talking about in relation to fitting ross' sreats in

Ah my bad sorry!!!
Cant really see a problem in using seats with head protectors and the crossed bars, as loads of rally/race cars use them so you must be able to fit in/out of the car with them!

17th July 2010, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewO

and what about the rear sturt is that included in the 620 price tag?

The price is for the cage, which has a horizontal bar between the bottom of the rear legs in the boot.

The strut brace that bolts to the rear seatbelt point is a custom job that Andy has made from memory.

17th July 2010, 15:52

ah right ok then well put me down for the same as everyone so far

17th July 2010, 15:54

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

2. Raunchz - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

3. Mr_P - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

4.VTSTomE - 106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

6. DrewO - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - Gloss White - £566.37 + Different Colour + delivery)

That correct Drew?

17th July 2010, 16:03

do these have to have the door bars???
as i think with my seats i would be stretched to fit door bars??

17th July 2010, 16:10

when does this group buy finish.

17th July 2010, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by adzvtr

do these have to have the door bars???
as i think with my seats i would be stretched to fit door bars??

I would have maybe thought so? But could get it with doorbars but not fit them if the seats in the way? Would just have to watch your shins getting into car!

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTSjames

when does this group buy finish.

A few people are talking about getting it going end of August but might be a bit sooner.

17th July 2010, 16:24

yeah thats correct so the rear strut brace is not included is this right just so i know?

17th July 2010, 16:37

No it's not included - I think it's been custom made by Andy_k on here - you can't buy them.

You have to remember though, that the Saxo doesn't have rear struts, so there's nothing really to brace.

17th July 2010, 16:46

im wanting it for my S1 106 Rallye mind not a saxo lol and i know there still nothing to brace on a 106rallye S1

17th July 2010, 17:04

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

2. Raunchz - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

3. Mr_P - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

4.VTSTomE - 106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

6. DrewO - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - Gloss White - £566.37 + Different Colour + delivery)

7. Harv - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras - just like lewisimo's (rear cross, harness bars, bar on main loop etc) single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery. Would prefer to pay early september but its not really a problem if it is earlier.

17th July 2010, 17:08

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

2. Raunchz - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

3. Mr_P - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

4.VTSTomE - 106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

6. DrewO - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - Gloss White - £566.37 + Different Colour + delivery)

7. Harv - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras - just like lewisimo's (rear cross, harness bars, bar on main loop etc) single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery. Would prefer to pay early september but its not really a problem if it is earlier.

8. RallyeMP - (106 12 Point, Front and rear cage with cross diagonal ect / Single door bars. £566.37 + Delivery) - Matt Black

17th July 2010, 17:11

rear sturt brace is not part of group buy fella

17th July 2010, 17:13

Do you think if we get 10 or more would they give a even better discount?

17th July 2010, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewO

rear sturt brace is not part of group buy fella

ok cheers for letting me know ill take that off

17th July 2010, 17:17

cant see why not anyone else having white apart from me so i can get it cheaper? lol

17th July 2010, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewO

cant see why not anyone else having white apart from me so i can get it cheaper? lol

Would it be cheaper to have it sprayed or powercoated white after?
but then again i dont know what they offer to have it in white in the 1st place

17th July 2010, 17:42

Willsy - maybe worth getting a price for 10? It looks like everyone is going for the same cage too, so maybe some economy of scale there too.

17th July 2010, 17:50

it £50 to have another colour than matt black but the more the cheaper

17th July 2010, 19:18

I have just edited the first post on page 1 to include all the details so far, ive made it a bit simpler too in the layout to avoid confusion

Could those who posted up on Rallye Reg (Ross?) and on 106 owners (Chris?) edit theirs using the first post on page 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by RallyeMP

Before i put my name down when you thinking dates of giving payments?

The quote they have given is guaranteed for 30 days, however i will ask them to extend that to 45 days so that first payment of 50% of your parts total will need to be paid by the end of August.

The final 50% will need to be paid 4-6 weeks later (thats how long it takes for the cages to be made and ready to send out) so aim to have the final 50% ready for the end of September.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adzvtr

do these have to have the door bars???

Door bars are optional, you dont have to buy those if you dont want to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTSjames

when does this group buy finish.

First 50% end of August
Final 50% end of September

Quote:

Originally Posted by RallyeMP

Do you think if we get 10 or more would they give a even better discount?

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

Willsy - maybe worth getting a price for 10? It looks like everyone is going for the same cage too, so maybe some economy of scale there too.

On Monday i will ask them to give me a price for 10 cages too as interest has been awesome so far

17th July 2010, 19:24

Just edited the 106rr one for you - I'll add colour and bold text when I'm next online as opposed to on the phone.

17th July 2010, 19:24

edited post on 106mc, only 1 reply so far but he's on here too

17th July 2010, 19:43

Nice one

17th July 2010, 20:17

Edit I completed missed the 6th page!

17th July 2010, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTSTomE

End of august would be perfect for me also, then the final payment would be 4-6 weeks later ja?!

Yes mate

The 4-6 weeks is time for cage to be made and ready to despatch so if you get the final money ready for end of september (4 weeks) then its ready to go as soon as they say cages are all ready to send out to us all

17th July 2010, 20:52

Only decent pic i have on photobucket will upload more tomorrow.

17th July 2010, 20:56

Loving that pic Tom

18th July 2010, 02:59

willsy, gonna pm you in the morning wehen i can typre properlty lol

19th July 2010, 00:52

lol Chris were you by any chance drunk when typing that and then forgot to PM whatever you wanted to PM about today?

Will confirm today (Monday) how theyd prefer payments to be made etc and when theyd like to know the final list by of those who have their names down and any additions before we go ahead and order next month.

19th July 2010, 07:49

yeah just a *few*

pm sent

19th July 2010, 11:05

Morning all,

Have just sent them a further email to confirm if there is any further discount for exceeding 10 confirmed orders

Also ive asked with the price guaranteed for 30 days whether they are prepared to extend that if we ensure that all 50% deposits are paid before the end of August to give those that need it the extra end of August payday to help out with funds etc.

If anyone is able to pay sooner just so theyre happy that the ball is rolling then thatll be great.

Ive also asked what they prefer to do with regards to ordering details, whether theyd like a full email of names, postal addresses and cage requirements etc with each person then being responsible for calling to pay their 50% deposit or whether theyd just prefer me to give them a list of names with the rest of the details and requests being given by phone upon the first payment.

Please let me know if there are any further questions as they are more than willing to answer any

19th July 2010, 11:35

Sounds good to me mate

19th July 2010, 13:00

Sounds good to me mate. As I say the end of August would be better for me as I've got insurance to pay in the middle of the month

. Good news is a cage is only £22 more to insure

.

19th July 2010, 14:42

Update:

Here we go everything is now fully confirmed.

They are more than happy to extend the guaranteed price beyond the 30 days so that we can pay the first 50% at the end of August.

The 20% discount that were getting is as good as they can do as Safety Devices when supplying dont offer any more than that for bulk orders.

All they require that i get is a full list of names who are 100% in for the group buy, so far there is 8 of us. Ill give this list to them 1 week before the end of August (Monday 23rd August)

You then have just over a week (7 working days) to phone up and give them details of the cage which you require, postal details and of course pay the first 50%.

Tuesday 31st August will be the last day to pay before they place the full order with Safety Devices to get the cages made

19th July 2010, 15:11

Thanks for the PM Willsy. That's great, I will most likely pay on the 29th or the 30th August

. Cheers for taking your time to organise it. We'll all have the best bolt in cage for saxo/106 by a long way

.

19th July 2010, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harv

Thanks for the PM Willsy. That's great, I will most likely pay on the 29th or the 30th August

. Cheers for taking your time to organise it. We'll all have the best bolt in cage for saxo/106 by a long way

.

Cheers mate

Can't wait till we all have it ordered and of course fitted, will be ace

19th July 2010, 16:33

Cheers Willsy

If I start counting the pennies now, I may be able to afford it by the end of August

19th July 2010, 16:49

Just for clarity I know its above but when is the first payment actually due?

19th July 2010, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin

Just for clarity I know its above but when is the first payment actually due?

First payment must be made on or before Tuesday 31st August.

Ill send them the full list of names just over a week before that (7 working days) on Monday 23rd August so people can pay anytime within that week

19th July 2010, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin

Just for clarity I know its above but when is the first payment actually due?

Tuesday 31st August

As you said, it' directly above. lol.

Edit: Too slow Mr_P

19th July 2010, 16:55

Meh just want clarity but I will be in, I'll post my exact requirements when I've had a think about what exactly I want.

19th July 2010, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin

Meh just want clarity but I will be in, I'll post my exact requirements when I've had a think about what exactly I want.

Nice one

More the merrier

19th July 2010, 17:19

1. Willsy (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

2. Raunchz - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

3. Mr_P - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

4.VTSTomE - 106 12 Point front + rear cage with cross diagonal, tunnel brace, rear strut brace and single door bars. £566.37 + delivery

5.Tufty - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

6. DrewO - (106 12 Point, Front and Rear cage with cross diagonal etc. + single door bars - Gloss White - £566.37 + Different Colour + delivery)

7. Harv - (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras - just like lewisimo's (rear cross, harness bars, bar on main loop etc) single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery. Would prefer to pay early september but its not really a problem if it is earlier.

8. RallyeMP - (106 12 Point, Front and rear cage with cross diagonal ect / Single door bars. £566.37 + Delivery) - Matt Black

9. SaxoMuffin (106 12 point, front/rear with all the extras/single door bars - MATT BLACK - £566.37 + delivery)

That's me definitely in! please can someone PM closer to the date as I'm not really on Sax-P a whole bunch any more...

19th July 2010, 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin

That's me definitely in! please can someone PM closer to the date as I'm not really on Sax-P a whole bunch any more...

Will do, if you PM me your number i can always txt you. Think its Tufty whos asked me to keep him informed by txt just incase he misses anything lol

Will have to make note of everyones real names at some point too.

The 106 style cage seems to be much more popular then than the saxo one

19th July 2010, 17:30

Will PM the number now, I much prefer the 106 cage as mentioned before with the rear mounting points being on the floor rather than the arch and again the front following the A-Pillar for that little longer.

19th July 2010, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin

Will PM the number now, I much prefer the 106 cage as mentioned before with the rear mounting points being on the floor rather than the arch and again the front following the A-Pillar for that little longer.

Very true, think those 2 points have been the deciding factor for most of us

19th July 2010, 17:41

Yeah apart from that there isn't really anything else that separates them

Just sucks this may push back my bodies going on grr lol... Should still be OK..

19th July 2010, 22:59

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, thanks Matt !

I'm good to pay right at the end of August - I'm back in the UK on the 28th August so will pay on the 30th/31st

I won't be on the phone/Internet for 15th-28th August so will check this thread before I go and be ready to pay as soon as I get back !!!

Looking forward to getting the cage, they are by far the best bolt in/off the shelf cages for the Saxo

Thanks again for sorting it Matt !!

20th July 2010, 17:23

Full details for the company who the group buy is with is as follows:

Chris Birkbeck Rally Sport
Low Farm
Ings Lane
Brotton
Saltburn - By - Sea
TS12 2QX
United Kingdom

Phone: +44 (0) 1287 677 512

They are top of the list on the Safety Devices website for official stockists too

http://www.safetydevices.com/stockists/motorsport

20th July 2010, 18:41

So the 106 cage is the better one but the dash needs a slight trim - correct?

Still can't commit as Im still not guarenteed work for the next two months (downside of being self-employed) but will *hopefully* jump in at the last minute.

20th July 2010, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

So the 106 cage is the better one but the dash needs a slight trim - correct?

Still can't commit as Im still not guarenteed work for the next two months (downside of being self-employed) but will *hopefully* jump in at the last minute.

Correct,

106 one requires a slight dash trim on a Saxo but it is a preferred mounting point for the front leg as it follows the A pillar further down. Also the rear section bolts onto the boot floor near the beam mount which is a more structurally strong area than the rear arch like the saxo one does.

To be fair there is no difference atall in the chassis, can understand the front leg difference due to the dash clearance, but the rear of the car is identical so its strange why they have varied it.

Everyones opting for the 106 one to go into their Saxo so far though it seems

Still plenty of time to jump in. Ill be sending the final list on Monday 23rd August, with the first 50% to be paid anytime between then and before/on Tuesday 31st August.

Hope you have a good spree of good work before then Chris

20th July 2010, 18:50

me too lol, work tomorrow and thurs/fri afternoons and 3 days next week but god knows after that

ideally i didnt want to do any cutting but a custom dash could be next

20th July 2010, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

ideally i didnt want to do any cutting but a custom dash could be next

Im intending on fitting a 106 dash anyway

its much easier to lighten than a Saxo one and im hoping to have my wiring all redone with the fuses set into the dash, the 106 one gives a perfect flat section on the bit where the pass airbag panel goes or the centre console being flat to do it

20th July 2010, 19:08

Wow, that is planning! 106 dash a straight fit then? Not keen on it myself.

If you're at Trax, Ill get you a drink as a thanks. Same goes to Ross

21st July 2010, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

If you're at Trax, Ill get you a drink as a thanks. Same goes to Ross

Ill be there mate, cheers

21st July 2010, 17:53

I'm not one to miss a free drink

I'll be at Trax

21st July 2010, 18:28

You know who's 106 that is? Rally car of course.

21st July 2010, 18:33

Do you guys mind if I take myself out of this - not that I'm saying I don't want one anymore, its more of a case of not disappointing you guys if I take myself out at a later date. 80% sure I will be having one but I would rather not be on the list as I'm not a definite 100% now due to deciding to go to Uni this year and actually do something with my life. If there was only 5 of us I wouldn't let you guys down and stay in but as there is 9 or so of us, 1 less won't really matter will it. Don't count me out of it though, i'll most likely be paying my 50% deposit on the 30 or 31st August if everything goes to plan, but just incase it doesn't I would rather not be on the list if you get my drift

.

21st July 2010, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Ill be there mate, cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

I'm not one to miss a free drink

I'll be at Trax

Shit, I need to keep quiet

I have another question but I need to go and take a picture first lol...

21st July 2010, 20:06

lol ask away

21st July 2010, 21:42

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Originally Posted by raunchz

lol ask away

Get stuffed! I'm answering this!

(I wants a free pint....

)

21st July 2010, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Mr_P

Get stuffed! I'm answering this!

(I wants a free pint....

)

This could get competitive

21st July 2010, 21:48

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Originally Posted by raunchz

This could get competitive

21st July 2010, 21:51

Chr15 is online...

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21st July 2010, 21:51

meh, its too dark now

anyway, how much space do i need between the b pillar and seat? my recliners dont leave much room but surely the door bar isnt that thick?

if it comes to it, id leave the door bar off, although not ideal

^lols at the above

sexual favours can be arranged too? i know some local slags...

21st July 2010, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Chr15

meh, its too dark now

anyway, how much space do i need between the b pillar and seat? my recliners dont leave much room but surely the door bar isnt that thick?

if it comes to it, id leave the door bar off, although not ideal

^lols at the above

sexual favours can be arranged too? i know some local slags...

You might have to put me in touch with the locals

If I had to take a punt as to the room you'll need I'd say around 150mm max. From memory, the SD cage is a pretty tight fit to the B pillar as it locates to the chassis there too.

21st July 2010, 22:04

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture162.jpg

i have a feeling its not going to fit, ill have a measure up tomorrow. thats the 'best' pic i have atm, rear cards and b pillar covers are out so a touch more space now.

21st July 2010, 22:07

there looks plenty of room drivers side, passenger side looks closer but I'm sure it'd fit

Both the seats mounted in the same place?

21st July 2010, 22:10

drivers side is fixed in place, but passenger's is movable (just about)

21st July 2010, 22:12

I think you should be fine once the plastics are removed.

I've not got a huge amount of space either but will make it fit !!

21st July 2010, 22:35

As above drivers looks fine but the passenger side may be a bit tight. My door bar touches my passenger seat, it is a fat man seat though

22nd July 2010, 11:35

Still very excited about it all, can't wait

Harv ive edited the list. Still got plenty of time to decide so its all good

22nd July 2010, 12:19

Same, the car's begging for a cage now, then can really get moving with the inside of it.

23rd July 2010, 13:31

wanting to keep this at the top

23rd July 2010, 13:45

Just thought i'd post up as a word of warning for anybody that is concerned about seats.

23rd July 2010, 13:50

Love it

Plenty of room there

23rd July 2010, 15:29

Im out then. Even with the cards removed I dont think Ill have space due to the design/shape of my seats.

23rd July 2010, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Chr15

Im out then. Even with the cards removed I dont think Ill have space due to the design/shape of my seats.

You dont have to buy or fit the door bars if you dont want to Chris. It does save you £80+ if you didnt want them

23rd July 2010, 15:36

plenty of room there !

Im rocking an XL width Cobra Evolution seat and I'm sure it'll be tight - but with great things comes compromise

23rd July 2010, 15:54

Yeah, the super close one is the circuit plus. So it should be ok chris. Take a chance, and as willsy said you don't have to use them if worst comes to worst

23rd July 2010, 15:57

I 100% know that I'll need to re-jig the positioning of my seat. In the grand scheme of fitting the cage that's fine.

I'd rather the protection of the door bars and re-jig my seat than just the saxo door as protection

23rd July 2010, 16:06

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Originally Posted by raunchz

I'd rather the protection of the door bars and re-jig my seat than just the saxo door as protection

It's like on an al capone film i have seen. A guy gets attacked by a bear and tries to protect himself with a painting off the wall. It will end in a similar fashion

23rd July 2010, 16:12

looooool can only end badly !!

I would go for the cross door bars but I think they'd make it a pig to get into the car, and would put me off taking the car for short blasts.

Single door bars with the A and B pillar uprights should be man enough.

adamskiTNR - you welded plates onto your floor for your cage? Then bolted through them and the floor with a nut and bolt and washers? Or is there some sort of captive nuts beneath the plates that you bolt into?

23rd July 2010, 16:15

Nah. I was gonna bolt it in. But that was at the stage when i was gonna keep the radio. The i woke up one morning and thought fuck it. So i welded it all in proper. It ain't going nowhere!
And the one unique thing of my cage i like is that i bolts ONTO the rear beam

23rd July 2010, 16:17

Ah so the main A and B uprights are bolted to the floor? and then the rear section is bolted to the rear beam mounts?

Sounds a nice setup - does it bolt onto the A and B pillars at anypoint?

23rd July 2010, 16:21

Well yeah it's all supposed to be bolted. But i just welded it all in as the sparco tig welds are seamless and amazing so should be stronger than a diy weld in.
Yes A and B to the floor. Well not directly to the floor on plate steps. And rear to the beam. There are some pics of the beam mounts before the cage was welded over them somewhere early in my thread.
And it is bolted to the b pillars. I was gonna gusset it to the a pillar but that involves removing the windscreen, so really couldn't be fucked

23rd July 2010, 16:23

As i said in my thread i nearly made a fatal mistake. Because it is welded over the mounts. The bolt for the rear beam is in there so it would have just spun around when i need to undo them to get the beam off!! Luckily i thought about it just in time and spot welded it to the mount to make it captive

23rd July 2010, 16:25

ah sweet - I'll have a gander at your prog thread now.

Gussetting it to the A pillar would tempt me tbh. especially if the windscreen is out to fit a roofskin

23rd July 2010, 16:28

Here is a pic.

23rd July 2010, 16:29

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Originally Posted by raunchz

especially if the windscreen is out to fit a roofskin

Now your spending my money haha

23rd July 2010, 16:36

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Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

Now your spending my money haha

looooooool

23rd July 2010, 16:46

I'm having thoughts of modifying my existing cage in the rallye (sparco 8 point) so may be out as of yet just see what prices I can get for welding harness bars and a rear strut at the bottom of the rear cross. But if I get a buyer soon for it as it's up for sale I'm definitely still in!

23rd July 2010, 16:47

Is it the same sparco one as mine? or is it the type 4? One rear cross i think

23rd July 2010, 17:46

Like yours adam with the extra bracing between rear cross and main b pillar hoop that's what's swaying me towards modyfying this one against the safety devices although the sd is 12 point. Catch 22 or what!?

23rd July 2010, 17:49

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Originally Posted by VTSTomE

Like yours adam with the extra bracing between rear cross and main b pillar hoop that's what's swaying me towards modyfying this one against the safety devices although the sd is 12 point. Catch 22 or what!?

Suppose it depends on the cost of adding in bars to make it like the SD cage and having the bars exactly where you want them vs. selling the sparco cage and buying an SD one.

23rd July 2010, 17:54

And then 8 point vs. 12 point lol!

23rd July 2010, 18:27

The extra points are just tabs of metal with a hole in them for the a pillar and top windscreen bar. Nothing too hard to make up.
And if it is the same model as mine with the beam mounts then i think it has something others are missing.
Not trying to take people from the buy or anything

24th July 2010, 01:49

Do you reckon sd would charge me for asking for gloss black cage instead of matt black??

24th July 2010, 11:05

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Originally Posted by RallyeMP

Do you reckon sd would charge me for asking for gloss black cage instead of matt black??

I would imagine so, as Matt black is the standard colour.

24th July 2010, 11:11

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Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

The extra points are just tabs of metal with a hole in them for the a pillar and top windscreen bar. Nothing too hard to make up.
And if it is the same model as mine with the beam mounts then i think it has something others are missing.
Not trying to take people from the buy or anything

AdamskiTNR - roughly how much was your cage?

What do you think the sd cage is missing? The mounting to the rear beam?

£620 delivered for a 12 point FIA cage, with fitting kit, that fits spot on is a great price.

24th July 2010, 11:19

My cage was £618 undelivered with fitting kit. So probably about £635 delivered.

Sparco - thicker bars, beam mount

Safety devices - Pre painted, easier fitting

24th July 2010, 11:26

But it doesn't have a bottom bar between the B pillars or harness bars?

What thickness is the tubing on the Sparco? Or you mean larger dia. tubes? Are the two main types 38 and 45mm tubes?

I don't know what omp have to offer as far as full cages - I've got to head out but will see what they offer tomorrow evening after Silverstone

24th July 2010, 11:50

Oh yeah, i forgot i added those. That's another tick for the SD.
The diameter tubing on the sparco is 40mm and 50mm tubing.
I'm not a big fan of OMP's range tbh. It focus' too much on weight and not on protection. Like a house of straws.

Sparco or SD for me.
Well custom cages ideally. They make some mean cages, (dam expensive though)