Engine loseing power from 4k up

1. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #1 18th July 2010, 20:32

   just took the car out for a spin and it seems like somethings wrong with the engine, has not been driven in a month and it feels like from about 4000 rev and up to max its struggling and goes sloppy and the tappets go really loud with the car ? anyone know
   
   or - i had a new cambelt kit not too long ago put in by a local garage could it be something to do with this ? but the tappets have definatley gone really loud
2. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

   #2 18th July 2010, 21:07

   spark plugs
3. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #3 18th July 2010, 21:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Manu spark plugs

   had new ones about 2000 ish miles ago and i put in ngk ones i will check them tomorrow after work back on my bike again lol
4. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

   #4 18th July 2010, 21:19

   that might be a problem in the leads or coil pack. Also, how old is your battery ? Smells like either the ignition is not keeping up, either you're lacking amps..
5. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #5 18th July 2010, 21:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Manu that might be a problem in the leads or coil pack. Also, how old is your battery ? Smells like either the ignition is not keeping up, either you're lacking amps..

   battery is brand new altenator new i will have a look at the spark plugs and go from thier
6. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #6 18th July 2010, 21:43

   Being a VTR, have you tried adjusting the tappets?
7. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #7 18th July 2010, 22:06

   Only the blacktops have solid lifters iirc
8. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #8 18th July 2010, 22:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mr_P Being a VTR, have you tried adjusting the tappets?

   yes they were adjusted by a garage a few months back and have been fine only just got really bad vts is looking very close by the looks of things !
9. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #9 18th July 2010, 22:09

   I'd say it was some sort of restriction.
   
   Unplug the battery overnight.
   
   Check the air filter, clean it out if necessary - or remove it temporarily and see if anything changes.
   
   If not, then could be an exhaust blockage.
   
   Or could be fuel filter (I'd replace anyway, only £5)
   
   Check oil level? All okay?
   
   What colour are the plugs?
10. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #10 19th July 2010, 17:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz I'd say it was some sort of restriction. Unplug the battery overnight. Check the air filter, clean it out if necessary - or remove it temporarily and see if anything changes. If not, then could be an exhaust blockage. Or could be fuel filter (I'd replace anyway, only £5) Check oil level? All okay? What colour are the plugs?

    i might drive to a local garage if i make it and ask them to look it over, i cleaned the filter not long ago and polished all throttle exhaust should be sweet as air flow is good still comeing out fine and i changed fuel filter about 100 miles ago to the good bosch ones and recently put in millers oil 5w40 fully syntetic and its to the max bang on, i just took the plugs out put new ones in no change used a mates coild pack no change i rev it and the accelerator comes back to 1k really fast and the tappets are going mad
11. b-christie Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 dundee (scotland) Posts: 466 saxo vtr/vts engine

    #11 19th July 2010, 20:07

    try disconecting the lambda sensor bud
12. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #12 19th July 2010, 20:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by b-christie try disconecting the lambda sensor bud

    And then reconnecting it is what you were about to say as well. Please
13. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #13 20th July 2010, 11:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR And then reconnecting it is what you were about to say as well. Please

    lol, i dont have one do i because have the mani on i just took it to the garage made it there lol, the one bloke there just when (its fooked) lol i said cheers mate thanks for noticeing, he also said sounds like the top end is trying to come off ? what ever this means but when i know any more ill post up
    
    Thanks for all the replys guys much appreciated !
14. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #14 20th July 2010, 12:03

    So you don't have a lambda sensor on your exhaust? none at all?
    And that is probably your problem
15. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #15 20th July 2010, 12:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR So you don't have a lambda sensor on your exhaust? none at all? And that is probably your problem

    no if you have a mani you cant put the lamba on because there is'ent a hole for it to go in i avent had one on it for 2 years and its run fine, i know for sure one sensor is off but another one at the end of the manifold may be on ?
    
    (saxo's do my nut in lol brother has had his type r for a year now not one problem he drives it hard and got it on coilies mani on it decat and backbox) i need £
16. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #16 20th July 2010, 13:08

    That's honda for you haha.
    Bet you if you ask him the size of any bolt on his car he won't know though. The problem with not having to fix anything
17. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #17 20th July 2010, 13:12

    okay then just took a video down the garage and this is what it sounds like at the moment he well be looking at it in the morning to tell me whats up with it.
    
    Engine noise - sound like the tappets to me and cambelt but i am not that good with this kind of stuff.
    
    Click
    
18. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #18 20th July 2010, 13:28

    christ that sounds unwell.
    If you take the rocker off and have a look under the oil baffle to see if there is fresh oil everywhere. It sounds very dry. Could be an oilway blockage
19. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #19 20th July 2010, 13:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR christ that sounds unwell. If you take the rocker off and have a look under the oil baffle to see if there is fresh oil everywhere. It sounds very dry. Could be an oilway blockage

    when they done the oil change a few weeks back they put it to full on dipstick and i have checked it since then about 3 times hasent changed hmmm strange well i cant do anything on it now as its like 3 miles away at garage i used g/f's car to get there but got work soon when they let me know ill tell you straight away. more then likely an oil blockage than low oil ?
20. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #20 20th July 2010, 13:38

    If it is full on the dip then it isn't low oil. That's just what it sounds like to me. I'm sure someone older with more experience will be able to diagnose better with their ears
21. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #21 20th July 2010, 13:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR If it is full on the dip then it isn't low oil. That's just what it sounds like to me. I'm sure someone older with more experience will be able to diagnose better with their ears

    well i dont have a clue i cook lol , he said he will try get it in tonight and look and hes going to ring me as soon as its done when i know i will update with some bad (good :/) news
22. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #22 20th July 2010, 21:26

    Okay so the problem was a loose rocker arm about to come off
23. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #23 20th July 2010, 22:10

    Ah. at least that was nice and simple to fix. Lucky it didn't come off, could of been dam expensive
24. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #24 21st July 2010, 10:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR Ah. at least that was nice and simple to fix. Lucky it didn't come off, could of been dam expensive

    yup thats what the bloke said, gave her a clean today
25. b-christie Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 dundee (scotland) Posts: 466 saxo vtr/vts engine

    #25 23rd July 2010, 18:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR So you don't have a lambda sensor on your exhaust? none at all? And that is probably your problem

    my car does not run when the lambda sensor is conected cuts out so its been disconected for the past year lol