Vts in for Catcam 708's and remap this week- Induction kit question regarding the map?!

1. _Rob Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Posts: 170 Ep3 Civic Type R

   #1 20th July 2010, 22:06

   Hi Guys,
   
   Right I have a vts with the kamracing supersprint system with a ss 4-2-1 on my car at the moment, im also running the raceland induction kit with the large green filter (but without the enclosing box as its a bugger to fit and i never got round to it)
   I plan on replacing it with a BMC CDA
   
   Question is:-
   
   Will I gain more power from Installing a BMC CDA prior to mapping ecu on the rollers when the cams are being set up than if i left it as it is induction-wise for the map, and then installed the BMC CDA afterwards.
   
   i.e. Will the induction kit i am running at the time of the map have any sort of effect on the map itself, or is the power gained from switching induction kits fully independant of the map.
   
   
   I beleive that the map is designed to fit all aspects of the enigne from induction through to exhaust but i am tight for cash at the mo. and these things are like £200 squids so i just want someone to tell me whether the effects will be negligible or whether it is worth investing in the best induction kit before the map.
   
   Soz for the longwindedness!- Hope you follow me
   
   Rob
2. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

   #2 20th July 2010, 22:14

   Not sure how much better a BMC would be over the Raceland if at all. You want to put the enclosure over the filter though to help protect it from sucking in hot air off the engine. Most people say the standard airbox with an uprated filter is the best option for performance.
3. _Rob Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Posts: 170 Ep3 Civic Type R

   #3 20th July 2010, 22:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bluenotesmiley Not sure how much better a BMC would be over the Raceland if at all. You want to put the enclosure over the filter though to help protect it from sucking in hot air off the engine. Most people say the standard airbox with an uprated filter is the best option for performance.

   Yeah i know that would be a decent option i just dont know how to make it fit very well- ill have to get on making some sort of bracket for it but even then it seems to sit right up to the slam panel almost as if it would restrict airflow into it.
   
   Just had a Pipercross viper on my last one and a hole cut from the slam panel so the end came right up to the grill and that seemed to work ace powerwise so was wanting to go back down that route.
   
   Cheers for the advice on the airbox i hadnt heard that before!
   
   Anyone know if the induction kit effects the map to any extent?
4. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

   #4 20th July 2010, 22:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by _Rob Yeah i know that would be a decent option i just dont know how to make it fit very well- ill have to get on making some sort of bracket for it but even then it seems to sit right up to the slam panel almost as if it would restrict airflow into it. Just had a Pipercross viper on my last one and a hole cut from the slam panel so the end came right up to the grill and that seemed to work ace powerwise so was wanting to go back down that route. Cheers for the advice on the airbox i hadnt heard that before! Anyone know if the induction kit effects the map to any extent?

   There was a thread somewhere on here that had a couple of options, including the standard airbox and uprated filter, and IIRC the standard came out a couple of BHP higher with the other loosing a 1-5 BHP depending on setup.
   
   The brackets I did have for my Raceland broke so I popped to B&Q and got a couple of the 90 degree metal brackets they had near their screws and bolts. One needed bending slightly but they held it fine. Near had any issues with it half up against the slam panel either.
5. _Rob Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Posts: 170 Ep3 Civic Type R

   #5 20th July 2010, 22:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bluenotesmiley There was a thread somewhere on here that had a couple of options, including the standard airbox and uprated filter, and IIRC the standard came out a couple of BHP higher with the other loosing a 1-5 BHP depending on setup. The brackets I did have for my Raceland broke so I popped to B&Q and got a couple of the 90 degree metal brackets they had near their screws and bolts. One needed bending slightly but they held it fine. Near had any issues with it half up against the slam panel either.

   Nice one thanks alot mate shall do that!
6. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

   #6 20th July 2010, 22:37

   Get nylock nuts and you don't even need to tighten it down fully to ensure that it stays secure.