To everybody who has lowered theirs cars

1. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

   #1 22nd July 2010, 09:36

   Did you by new shocks or did you just use existing and just replace the springs?
   
   Cheers
2. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #2 22nd July 2010, 10:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by micky045 Did you by new shocks or did you just use existing and just replace the springs? Cheers

   it depends on how low you go mate if you go 30mm it will be fine mine is 40mm front still on standards and thier still good but reccomended to get them as it will ruin other parts as the bumps will be to hard how low are you going ?
3. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

   #3 22nd July 2010, 12:52

   I was thinking 35mm
4. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #4 22nd July 2010, 12:56

   35mm will be fine with standard shocks and dampers. If you want to go any lower than 40mm then you definately want to get an uprated kit.
5. Steph_at_constella Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Shepshed Posts: 460 205 Evo, S1 Rallye

   #5 22nd July 2010, 12:58

   As said above, though its always better to treat the car to some nice stiffer shocks anyway
6. stupotvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 EDINBURGH Posts: 3143 BMW e36 328i sport

   #6 22nd July 2010, 13:13

   luck has a good bit to play in it I was down 60mm for 2 years on standard shocks with no problems. The shocks were in fine condition when I changed to the apex kit.
7. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

   #7 22nd July 2010, 13:14

   It'd be silly not to upgrade the shocks as you will of had to disassemble the front struts anyway so chucking new shocks in wouldn't be an extra effort, and the rear ones are easy to do so silly not change them really, cost isn't really with the budget kits out there, get an apex and pay someone to fit it and do the torsion bar and you'll of only £300 and it will outlast and out preform your standard shocks 10 times over
   
   James
8. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

   #8 22nd July 2010, 14:21

   What about this conbination:
   
   Shocks:
   
   FRONT:
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GMAX-SPORTS-FR...item5883206ae5
   
   BACK:
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GMAX-SPORTS-RE...item3ca22d9b7b
   
   or:
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
   
   Springs:
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GMAX-Lowering-...item2a0868b3b1
9. CarlosVT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Bristol Posts: 4070 Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #9 22nd July 2010, 14:25

   GMAX is awful mate. Go for a spax vsx or apex kit, they are good budget kits.
10. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

    #10 22nd July 2010, 14:26

    or this kit?
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-SAXO-V...item4a9fd9c704
11. Juggyluggs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2010 Moke's Master!!! Posts: 3434 Ibiza Formula Sport Yammy yzf r6

    #11 22nd July 2010, 14:40

    as mentioned above dude get the spax vsx or apex kit im looking at getting one in the next few weeks look on kamracing.co.uk and look what they have always decent stuff on there
12. daveski Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 155 Golf

    #12 22nd July 2010, 14:46

    I changed the shocks when I lowered my Megane. I would definately change both if you can.
13. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

    #13 22nd July 2010, 15:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Juggyluggs as mentioned above dude get the spax vsx or apex kit im looking at getting one in the next few weeks look on kamracing.co.uk and look what they have always decent stuff on there

    Just been looking funny enough of found this 40mm Spax VSX kit. Think i'll go with this for the price.
    
    Roll on payday!!
14. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

    #14 22nd July 2010, 15:10

    http://www.chgperformance.co.uk/cata...roducts_id=214
15. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #15 22nd July 2010, 15:34

    i went down 60mm and only changed springs.. i soon regretted it and fitted apex dampers, the car used to bottom out on oem shocks resulting in my front bumper smacking on the deck
16. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

    #16 22nd July 2010, 15:39

    Doubt I would ever go as low as 60mm to be honest, to many speed bumps everywhere where I live. I think 40mm would be my absolute max.
17. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #17 22nd July 2010, 16:12

    either way mate id buy dampers, even if you only buy front dampers for the sake of £110 you can have apex dampers and they get very good reviews and all my mates have said how much better my car rides with them on
18. micky045 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 121 2001 Saxo VTR

    #18 22nd July 2010, 16:37

    Yea think I'm gonna just get thisand get the lot done:
    
    http://www.chgperformance.co.uk/cata...roducts_id=214
19. user_32464 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Trackside Posts: 2624 1.1 saxo died :( now on the look for another

    #19 22nd July 2010, 17:14

    i did shocks and springs
    50mm down using a apex kit from kam racing
    love it
20. K17NEY Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner

    #20 22nd July 2010, 17:55

    I went down 60mm on standard shocks, They did not last long and blew, resulting in it sitting 10mm lower and smashing my gerabox on the floor.
21. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #21 22nd July 2010, 19:31

    standard shocks on 60mm springs last about a week, two if you drive like betty from the bingo hall
22. saxo_gash Newbie Joined: Apr 2010 redditch Posts: 11 saxo vtr

    #22 22nd July 2010, 21:05

    35mm is the lowest ide go on standard shocks any lower uprated are advisable as when the car is lifted off the ground you can move the spring around due to the lenth difference which is also mot faliure
23. stupotvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 EDINBURGH Posts: 3143 BMW e36 328i sport

    #23 24th July 2010, 14:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beermonstah standard shocks on 60mm springs last about a week, two if you drive like betty from the bingo hall

    Mines lasted 2 years and were still invoke condition when they got swapped for apex ones. Everybody scaremongers about shocks getting fucked in a week after getting lowered imo
24. Hawwy Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 109

    #24 25th July 2010, 14:22

    If your car has a bouncy bumpy ride, would fitting updated shocks improve the ride,? Mine was already lowered I think only springs.
25. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #25 26th July 2010, 08:14

    If it's bouncing around I'd change te shocks as it sounds knackered. Tbh I'd change the shocks everytime when lowering as it just makes sense. If you end up changing it back, you have the shocks!
26. numineez L-plater Joined: Oct 2007 manchester Posts: 70 mk1 saxo vts,mg zr

    #26 26th July 2010, 08:32

    i lowered mine just springs and felt fine 40mm,year later upgraded to apex kit from kamracing my god did i feel the differance well better with full kit.
27. user_41441 L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 Norwich Posts: 62 Citoren Saxo VTR (Mk1)

    #27 26th July 2010, 10:19

    homemade coilis ftw, with billy b8s
28. Hawwy Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 109

    #28 26th July 2010, 14:03

    What difference do you usually feel from standard and uprated shocks
29. Hawwy Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 109

    #29 26th July 2010, 14:10

    What difference do you usually feel from standard and uprated shocks
30. numineez L-plater Joined: Oct 2007 manchester Posts: 70 mk1 saxo vts,mg zr

    #30 26th July 2010, 14:57

    stiffer more resposive feel to the car.think of 1.4 astra to a vxr a bit over the top but you get what i mean.
    the lads on here with track cars could explain better a standard vts around a track is good same car uprated suspension is better it makes the car feel and handle better.
31. clubbz Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Shropshire Posts: 454 Black Saxo VTR

    #31 26th July 2010, 21:22

    i have eibach springs and it blew my front to shock absorbers so had to buy some new ones and same with the back dampers your better of changing everything tbf mate
32. FuroPK Newbie Joined: Aug 2010 St. Clements, Jersey Posts: 9 Saxo 1.1 Desire :(

    #32 4th August 2010, 00:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by micky045 What about this conbination: Shocks: FRONT: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GMAX-SPORTS-FR...item5883206ae5 BACK: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GMAX-SPORTS-RE...item3ca22d9b7b or: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT Springs: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GMAX-Lowering-...item2a0868b3b1

    Hi guys.. I am brand new... actually bought a Saxo 1.1 4dr Desire today and it is bog standard.... i need to do something about that... would these kits/shocks work ok or ar these VTS/VTR only?
33. stupotvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 EDINBURGH Posts: 3143 BMW e36 328i sport

    #33 5th August 2010, 13:16

    they should fit but will not be lowered as much due to the 1.1 weighing less.
    
    check apex,spax etc for kits specific to the 1.1
34. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #34 5th August 2010, 13:29

    didnt when i was 35mm at the front on eibach springs, as they have the same spring rate or something to standards to felt quite comfy. after a year and a half the dampers were pretty knackered though. wouldnt go lower than 40mm on standard dampers tbh
35. lookinsaxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Manchester Posts: 191 mk2 saxo VTS blue

    #35 5th August 2010, 19:38

    if your gonna change suspension go all the way. if you cant afford save up and do it all in one go. i wouldnt change to lower springs without changing dampers personally
36. FuroPK Newbie Joined: Aug 2010 St. Clements, Jersey Posts: 9 Saxo 1.1 Desire :(

    #36 5th August 2010, 20:03

    thanks stupotvtr.
    
    another question i've been looking around but anyone know any good places online to buy spax/apex suspension kits. I'm looking for the whole set really... springs and dampers
37. user_34090 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Devizes Posts: 2280 Blue Clio 172 Cup

    #37 5th August 2010, 20:10

    I havent uprated, at a 35mm drop, pretty stable atm
38. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #38 6th August 2010, 00:00

    kamracing was cheapest i found for spax
39. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #39 6th August 2010, 00:02

    i got mine off ebay shocks and springs for 140 that was adjustable ones
40. stupotvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 EDINBURGH Posts: 3143 BMW e36 328i sport

    #40 6th August 2010, 12:57

    motorsportworld are a good company, that would lower your car about 40mm I think.
    
    http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/det...-40&PID=436406
    
    and also check
    
    www.kamracing.co.uk
    
    They have kits specific for 1.1's
41. Boyes Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Sheffield Posts: 276 Peugeot 106 GTi, Clio 172

    #41 6th August 2010, 17:37

    Down -45/50mm standard shocks on GTi, bumpy ride that's why I've got Gaz coilovers in garage waiting to go on would be fine for a weekend but a daily with potholes it's a pain..
42. user_42401 Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Cupar Fife Posts: 1712 1600 16v VTS 1600 8v VTR 1400 16v Clio Sport

    #42 6th August 2010, 17:39

    i ran a 60mm drop all round on standerd dampers and they were fine
43. user_31231 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150

    #43 9th August 2010, 10:51

    mines down 50-60 and still using standard shocks and dampers and its been lowered year and half had no problems yet