Baker BM Engine Mounts

1. PetrolHeadSeb L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Norwich Posts: 54 MK1 Mauritius Blue VTS

   #1 27th July 2010, 22:34

   My top engine mounts are both cracked so I'm thinking of getting the Baker BM Grp N engine mounts and Grp A lower engine fork bush fitted.
   
   I've hear people talk a lot about Vibra Technics mounts, but are the Baker BM ones any good? If it matters, I'm currently using the car on the road, but ultimately it's purpose is to be a track car.
2. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #2 27th July 2010, 22:40

   make sure it will fit your car.
3. PetrolHeadSeb L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Norwich Posts: 54 MK1 Mauritius Blue VTS

   #3 27th July 2010, 22:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing make sure it will fit your car.

   It's a MK1 VTS...
4. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #4 27th July 2010, 23:08

   you need an S2 kit, NOT and S1 kit
   
   as far as I'm aware, Baker don't do an upper engine mount for the S2 type.
5. PetrolHeadSeb L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Norwich Posts: 54 MK1 Mauritius Blue VTS

   #5 27th July 2010, 23:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz you need an S2 kit, NOT and S1 kit as far as I'm aware, Baker don't do an upper engine mount for the S2 type.

   Hmm, is there a good alternative to the Baker mounts in the same kind of price range then?
6. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #6 27th July 2010, 23:20

   not really.
   
   Peugeot sport or Vibra/Spoox are the only ones I know of
7. PetrolHeadSeb L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Norwich Posts: 54 MK1 Mauritius Blue VTS

   #7 27th July 2010, 23:38

   OK, cheers for that.
   
   Might just replace the top ones with standard and fit a powerflex lower mount for now and look at doing the whole kit in a few months time then.
8. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #8 27th July 2010, 23:49

   Sounds a good plan.
   
   Could get baker upper and lower gearbox mounts, just fit the lower for now.
   
   When you've got more cash buy a vibra upper engine mount and fit bothe engine and gearbox upper mounts (you don't want one stiffer than the other)
9. PetrolHeadSeb L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Norwich Posts: 54 MK1 Mauritius Blue VTS

   #9 9th August 2010, 23:13

   OK little update. In the end I bought the GrpN lower mount on it's own and the GrpA Fork Bush and decided to keep the top mounts standard for a bit.
   
   I finally got them fitted today and what a difference it makes! Firstly, the car feels much tighter, much more responsive on pickup and feels really good when lifting off and down shifting too, from a performance point of view from me, especially as the parts were only £44.
   
   Although, I probably wouldn't recommend doing it to a daily driver, all I can say is that it's like driving a vibrator! The cabin vibrates right the way through the rev range and generates a fair amount of extra noise in the process.
   
   I am very pleased though, it's exactly the effect I wanted for the track
10. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

    #10 10th August 2010, 00:52

    its mainly the fork bush creating the vibrations, if you remove that it wont be too bad
    i have the vibratechnics/spoox fast road upper mounts and had the group a pugsport lower mount and it vibrated a stupid amount and id been in cars with the group a lowr and they didnt vibrate as much, i then removed the fork bush and its now a very tolerable drive tbh, i also tried the group a fork bush with the group n baker bm mount and itvibrated just as much as my group a currently does without the fork groupa fork bush, so its suprising how much of a diff it makes tbh
    have you noticed your car kangeroos/jerks a little bit on light throttle?
    
    just thought id give you a few options on what you could go for next if you plan on driving the car daily and a few track days here and there, or just a full on track car
11. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

    #11 10th August 2010, 01:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PetrolHeadSeb Although, I probably wouldn't recommend doing it to a daily driver, all I can say is that it's like driving a vibrator!

    lol.
    
    I am quite suprised how much of a difference you say it makes, didn't realise it would be that profound. I have seen people on here say that fitting stiffer upper mounts have reduced vibration. Might be worth keeping in mind. I cannot wait to get all mine bought and fitted.
    
    The Powerflex one is perfect for a daily drive.
12. PetrolHeadSeb L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Norwich Posts: 54 MK1 Mauritius Blue VTS

    #12 10th August 2010, 10:53

    To tell you the truth, I wasn't expecting it to be as noticeable as it is. Can't say that I'm noticing it kangarooing on low throttle to be honest, although I haven't driven it extensively yet.
    
    In all honesty, some of the vibration effect is probably being introduced because I also took the back seats out last night, so there's more sound in the cabin anyway.