rust!!

1. andyb87vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 peterlee Posts: 139 pug 106 gt 1.1

   #1 3rd August 2010, 09:04

   well iv read a few things about saxos and there little rust problems but didnt relise there could be so bad, recently had mine in for its mot and its failed on 11 bits all on the main parts of the chassis and all with dangours next to them!!
   will put on what it did fail on later
   
   a am sick as a chip and me mate who moted it said it can be fixed but idealy isnt worth it!!
   
   so if anyone has a 99 vts if aye was you id be getin under there and checkin it out because mine has a failed on some really bad things and upon removing the side skirts where the holes didnt look to bad in the sill got quite big after abit poke with a screw driver
2. user_39430 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2009 Northern Monkey Posts: 17064 Work van che.

   #2 3rd August 2010, 09:29

   It's all about maintenance mate. Needs regularly checking.
3. RossRog Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shropshire/North Wales Posts: 605

   #3 3rd August 2010, 09:30

   Same problems here mate, i got a mark 1 Vts on a v plate.
   
   its a rite mess lol, i got underneath it the other month looked at the brackets the bumper is bolted too an looks like its going to just fall apart, its also got the usual rust in the bay.. but the opposite side to the ecu there is a nice whole there like....
   
   i've not been back under the car in the last 2/3 months i know problems are there i'm just putting it off haha
4. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

   #4 3rd August 2010, 15:35

   Pugs/saxos don't really rust visibly. Its under the ECU as mentioned and also the bottom of the arches in the boot are the main areas to look for.
5. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

   #5 3rd August 2010, 16:01

   True dat, I knew my one needed cleaning up when I bought it, but it just went on and on luckily my old man is pretty good with a welder and I had the time to strip and underseal the whole thing, so hopefully she will pass.
   
   If not il just reshell it all into a 1.1
6. RossRog Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shropshire/North Wales Posts: 605

   #6 3rd August 2010, 16:10

   i've got my plan sorted....harerite...Attack!!
   
   ahah
   
   i know somone who will weld a plate for me too so it could be fixed
7. andyb87vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 peterlee Posts: 139 pug 106 gt 1.1

   #7 16th August 2010, 20:10

   heres a pic of one of the holes that a made just off tapping the floor with the end of a rachet
   
   
   this hole goes right threw the sill only bit that was left is he jacking point
8. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #8 16th August 2010, 21:34

   Bloody hell, have never seen rust in the footwells other than the odd small patch, thats insane
9. RossRog Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shropshire/North Wales Posts: 605

   #9 17th August 2010, 08:51

   never seen it there on a saxo....
   
   that is mad!
10. user_34323 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3

    #10 17th August 2010, 09:01

    scrap the car. and part it.
11. JohnRambosCat Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 stafford Posts: 299 saxo 1.1, saxo vtr

    #11 17th August 2010, 11:04

    ive never seen a car rust that bad! is that repairable as im not to sure about the rust factor lol
12. RossRog Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shropshire/North Wales Posts: 605

    #12 17th August 2010, 11:10

    ia there much rust over the rest of the car?!
13. andyb87vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 peterlee Posts: 139 pug 106 gt 1.1

    #13 17th August 2010, 11:55

    aye theres plenty more,both front arches, chassis leg has a hole in on the passenger side,rear sill on drivers side,front sill on drivers side wer its had a dodger repair already, boot floor both sides inner rear quater both foot wheels wer the arch meets the floor so quite abit,but it has been scrapped now only thing tht wen was the bare shell stripped the lot, and av bought me self a little 1.1 106 with a gti bodykit on from a freind, its a x write off but has been fully repaired to a vry high standard its a y plate with 48,000 on the clock jus needs a few odds n sods and ill be away ;-)
14. reedy1 L-plater Joined: May 2009 Posts: 66

    #14 17th August 2010, 12:25

    i have never seen anything so bad! this rust was caused by the leak in the door seal or the arial seal though ..
15. RossRog Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shropshire/North Wales Posts: 605

    #15 17th August 2010, 12:48

    must have lived in a grit bin...haha!
16. Piano L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 80 Saxo VTR

    #16 17th August 2010, 13:49

    Think i'll give my own another check just incase. Just bought it recently but i haven't come across any rust problems atall. It's a 2001. That looks really bad mate. Reminds me of an old Escort XR3i i bought years ago. Looked minted from the outside. I wanted it as soon as i saw it. I didn't think to check the car properly, it was only my second car ever. Turned out the rot underneath it was terminal. You should have seen this thing. Looks like it's curtains for your car mate, unfortunately.
17. user_39430 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2009 Northern Monkey Posts: 17064 Work van che.

    #17 17th August 2010, 13:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Piano Think i'll give my own another check just incase. Just bought it recently but i haven't come across any rust problems atall. It's a 2001. That looks really bad mate. Reminds me of an old Escort XR3i i bought years ago. Looked minted from the outside. I wanted it as soon as i saw it. I didn't think to check the car properly, it was only my second car ever. Turned out the rot underneath it was terminal. You should have seen this thing. Looks like it's curtains for your car mate, unfortunately.

    
18. RossRog Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 North Shropshire/North Wales Posts: 605

    #18 17th August 2010, 13:53

    ^^^^
    
    i lol'd
19. SmuJ Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Essex Posts: 300 Black Saxo VTS

    #19 17th August 2010, 15:16

    The only bit of visible rust i can see on my 01 plate is a patch on the drivers door seal. It's about 10cm x 5cm big...
    
    I'm going to try salvage mine next month.
20. andyb87vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 peterlee Posts: 139 pug 106 gt 1.1

    #20 17th August 2010, 17:06

    not to sure hoe its happened all ano is once a stripped the carpets out the under lay stuff was soaked threw cud b a gd time to check yours over people might be worth takeing it out and drying it for a few days then putin it back in ano one thing my 106 is geting sealed every where and stripped so theres no wet carpets or anything
21. reedy1 L-plater Joined: May 2009 Posts: 66

    #21 17th August 2010, 17:11

    i just put a new carpet in mine last week because i caught this problem early..
22. Piano L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 80 Saxo VTR

    #22 17th August 2010, 18:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeKinetik [IMG]http://chrisk.name/rtimages/piano.pn/IMG]

    
23. user_39430 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2009 Northern Monkey Posts: 17064 Work van che.

    #23 17th August 2010, 23:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Piano

    No, that was a shite comeback...
    
    
    
    
24. Piano L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 80 Saxo VTR

    #24 18th August 2010, 07:10

    lol You're obviously a juvenile. Get out some more, it will do you good. Infact 2884 posts? You probably spend all day on the Computer posting on here and wanking over wee boys in their vests n pants.
25. user_39430 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2009 Northern Monkey Posts: 17064 Work van che.

    #25 18th August 2010, 09:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Piano lol You're obviously a juvenile. Get out some more, it will do you good. Infact 2884 posts? You probably spend all day on the Computer posting on here and wanking over wee boys in their vests n pants.

    Haha! What's got into your keys mate?
    
    My post count is nowhere near as much as others.
26. Regan Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Harrogate Posts: 193 vtr soon to be a Vts-Gti

    #26 18th August 2010, 12:40

    my 02 plate has been in my garage for 7 months striped down so ive done a full rust removal and engine conversion so im happy theres a few more years rust free in her ! But when i striped the inside out for the track and the sound proofing under the carpet was piss wet through!! And thats after it was in my garage for 6 months and the carpets never felt wet ! If i never l striped it out it would still be under there eating away with no sighn!
27. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #27 18th August 2010, 21:08

    how did that get through an mot the previous year. surely would have had advisorys on corosion. bought my vtr last year saw 1 rust hole under it. the birds brothers a pro welder so got it.came to mot time the guy found loads, holes on both rear arches boot, 1 sill, both front arches under ecu and fuse box, had it all welded up but dont no how long its gonna last.
28. andyb87vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 peterlee Posts: 139 pug 106 gt 1.1

    #28 20th August 2010, 14:59

    have no idea mate the cars got all its mot certificates full service history recipts for all kinds, reakon its had a dodgy test last year, was a shame to see it get completly stripped and scrapped but a just didnt see the point in paying a fortune to get it welded up and for next year for it to be just the same
29. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #29 20th August 2010, 20:23

    yea think that was too far gone to be pissin about with. dont no how some older cars are still fine tho even tho their the same car and age.