Saxo doesn't pop

  1. Newbie Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 16
    #1
    Hi guys, just bought my first saxo. Its a 2002 VTR. She has a supersprint manifold and a full magnex system. I wouldn't mind the odd pop or bang now and again, but I haven't heard anything of such! Is the cat in the standard mani or what way does it work on these?

    Thanks
  2. Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198
    #2
    Hiya mate.

    The cat in a Vtr is in the manifold.

    As I understand it, Saxo's that pop are down to an overfueling problem. But it's usually left because it sounds good.

    If you get it mapped, the ecu can be configured to make it pop.

    Kev
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 North Wales Posts: 5576 Fabia VRS PD130/ VTR Mk2
    #3
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RAFkev View Post
    Hiya mate.

    The cat in a Vtr is in the manifold.

    As I understand it, Saxo's that pop are down to an overfueling problem. But it's usually left because it sounds good.

    If you get it mapped, the ecu can be configured to make it pop.

    Kev
    Mk1 is under car
    Mk2 is in mani

    does the magnex centerpipe have a silencer??
  4. Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sams_VTR View Post
    Mk1 is under car
    Mk2 is in mani

    does the magnex centerpipe have a silencer??
    2002 = mk2 sam!
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Sawtry Posts: 3456 Saxo VTS Saxo VTR
    #5
    if he's said its got a supersprint manifold, then it won't have a CAT on it??
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #6
    flaming is down to over fuelling, popping is from the back pressure or something along those lines i beleive.. with a full straight through system should ge a few pops and bangs..
    get a supersprint race section and 2" backox, had that on my vtr with supersprit mani, and it sounded awesome and popped and banged loads
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Sawtry Posts: 3456 Saxo VTS Saxo VTR
    #7
    i agree with jamie, supersprint centre pipe is needed, i have one on my VTS with a piper backbox and that pops and bangs like no tomorrow as stokesy can confirm
  8. Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198
    #8
    Hmmm

    Maybe it's just a supersprint thing.

    I have straight through magnex and get no popping.

    The guy who mapped my car said he can make it pop by tweaking the map. Can't remember why or how though.
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Shavington Crewe Posts: 828 MK2 Saxo VTR 51 PLATE
    #9
    On my VTR I have standard mani magnex decat and cat back it's reali quiet and when going flat in 3rd then changing to second it makes a lil pop. Nothing big just a noticeable one
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #10
    maybe its the magnex.. most othr systems seem to pop no problem..
    and as lee said above, his superspriint mani and race section with the piper backbox pops and bangs like mad.. soudnd aweosme
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 North Wales Posts: 5576 Fabia VRS PD130/ VTR Mk2
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RAFkev View Post
    2002 = mk2 sam!
    Fair enough, i miss read it
  12. Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Cheshire Posts: 441 furio ;)
    #12
    mine pops now and then sounds nice though got vtr manifold on and a savage backbox on a 1.1
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts
    #13
    Ive Got a btb 4-1 mani and a full btb 2.5" system, not heard any pops out of it, mabie im not driving it right lol
  14. Established Member Joined: May 2010 Hirwaun, South Wales Posts: 1178 '02 Leon Cupra R Flash Red
    #14
    Get a few pops and bangs on mine when I change down and its around 2k revs. Thats with Longlife cat back system and standard manifold.
  15. Newbie Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 16
    #15
    God knows, must just be magnex for ya lol! Can you map the standard ecu on saxo's or is it a new ecu needed ?
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543
    #16
    Magnex are supposed to be quiet until you open the taps up anyway, a full 2" supersprint would make it pop like a mad man.
  17. Established Member Joined: May 2009 pboro Posts: 1442 Saxo 1.4 furio Now Saxo 1.6 VTR
    #17
    how long has the full exhaust system been on for?
    mine started popping after a few weeks and now pops all the time
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS
    #18
    I had a VTR with Supersprint mani and Magnex single box system - no pops or bangs. Whack a Piper or Supersprint exhaust on and it probably will.
  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #19
    remap the standard ecu will be completely pointless and waste of money for just an exhaust system to try and get it to pop, tbf itd probs decrease the chance of it popping..
    imo sell up and get a new system
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 523 Mk1 VTS Nissan 350z
    #20
    My magnex only pops when you blip the throttle at high RPM, and when upshifting.
  21. Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Krys_23 View Post
    Magnex are supposed to be quiet until you open the taps up anyway, a full 2" supersprint would make it pop like a mad man.
    My magnex is in no way quiet. Even idling! And sitting at 70 on the motorway is not pleasant!
  22. Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 rotherham Posts: 1369 saxo westcoast
    #22
    westy - raceland 4-2-1, magnex decat, stainless center (unknown make), piper backbox, no pops, raspy as fuke if drop your foot off accelrator at 5k+ revs
  23. Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS
    #23
    My Magnex used to gurgle loads about 3.5k revs IIRC. If not it was 2.5k, but it used to gurgle loads, no pops and bangs though. SuperSprint system with 3" Piper backbox used to pop loads about 4k revs and on the engine run-off but when changing to PH3s and map it didn't pop or bang at all, even after getting bodies mapped onto it. Saying that it might be doing it but might not hear it over the bodies
  24. Newbie Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 16
    #24
    A few pops wouldn't go a miss but i'm getting nothing on this magnex system
  25. Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS
    #25
    The Magnex systems are pretty quiet. Mine never made much noise other then the usual exhaust drone/noise lol.

    If you want pop try getting a SuperSprint Race centre section and cutting it to fit the sleeved fitment on the Magnex as this would then loose the centre silencer you have on the current Magnex system.

    Fitting this centre section to my cousins car as opposed to the standard centre section made a big difference to his VTR. It went from just exhaust noise to popping a fair bit although this was with a 3.5" Piper rear silencer I would imagine it would act in a similar fashion.
  26. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #26
    ive got a mij custom exhuast but i need the standard 1.1 backbox now, bf was gunna put a furio centre pipe on to keep it decat and told me its still gunna pop and be noisy, im not convinced, anyone confirm?
  27. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #27
    is it standard mani nicole?
    and it might, but a furio centre section snt going to be great, and a 1.1 backbox gunna lower the odds even more imo. i could be wrong, but i dont think it will with that backbox
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #28
    i thought with a supersprint centre pipe i have slightly more chance lol,
    yeh its standard mani and mk1, so decats it.
    wanna keep my custom one but i need a hidden backbox
  29. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #29
    well benjee off here has standard mk1 mani and is borrowing my supersprint centre section and 2" backbox and thats popping a fair bit and a very nice noise..
    maybe try something different.. i saw a rally with the exhaust coming out of the rear 1/4 just infront of the wheel.. would be good for your kinda theme as would be different, then you can have whatever backbox..
    just an idea
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #30
    ive got a supersprint center section with standard mani and back box and it does pop from time to time and i have had 2 flames come out over the 6 or so months or owning it but exhaust systems need time to bed in it will probably pop more over time mine has only just started doing it
  31. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #31
    shush u, u making me sound wrong lol ..
    i still rekon relocate where the backbox comes out off..
    side exit ftw!! will be good on yours or nicoles theme
  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #32
    yeh ive considered it before, but with the vtec going in i need a custom exhuast made up, so no point getting one done yet
  33. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stokesy View Post
    shush u, u making me sound wrong lol ..
    i still rekon relocate where the backbox comes out off..
    side exit ftw!! will be good on yours or nicoles theme
    lmao ill look in to it
  34. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #34
    saw it on a bianca rallye looked awesome!!
    and yea nicole look into it when the vtec goes in
  35. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #35
    with such a short exhuast though i can imagine it sounds quite different and would effect performance, i dunno, im abit of a noob but might just get a custom hidden one done as its more subtle then, and itll have its vtec purrrrr
  36. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #36
    get an extra 8valves
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  37. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #37
    nah dont think itll effect it that much.. spesh not if it still a straight through..
    just a though, would be good for the euro kinda theme you got going, they tend to go for 'different' lol..
  38. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #38
    shh mines not euro, shes cleaned
  39. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #39
    well its a grogeous car either way, shame its a mk1 though hehe
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  40. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9
    #40






    bitch
  41. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #41
    haha sorry

    we kinda messed up mateys thread, sorry bud lol
  42. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #42
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nicole_ View Post






    bitch
    dont get so emotional lol its your car just because he doesnt like mk1's doesnt
    mean you should get upset lol

    MK1's FTWWWWW
  43. Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR
    #43
    mines completely standard apart from Magnex back box and an induction.

    and it pops its ass off.

    in 1st, sharp acceleration, then 2nd, then dip the clutch.. and pop pop pop bang bang bang!

    fuckin A
  44. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #44
    If you want it to pop more get a FSE Power boost valve and decat and set the fuel pressure to 6bar haha that should do it!
  45. Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR
    #45
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffchiz View Post
    dont get so emotional lol its your car just because he doesnt like mk1's doesnt
    mean you should get upset lol

    MK1's FTWWWWW
    Mk1s FTW!

    i have had 2 now. mainly coz i cant afford a mk 2!! lol

    Mk1s look more manly i think though... but mk2s look sweet with the dimma grill and black light mod... so each to there own though.
  46. Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR
    #46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by furio-james View Post
    If you want it to pop more get a FSE Power boost valve and decat and set the fuel pressure to 6bar haha that should do it!
    Yer, then also cry as you can visually watch your fuel gauge hand move downwards!
  47. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #47
    Haha yeah!
  48. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #48
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Newtz07 View Post
    Yer, then also cry as you can visually watch your fuel gauge hand move downwards!
    and cry even more as you force petrol past the piston rings, into the oil and screw your engine up
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  49. Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR
    #49
    exactly... the only popping you will hear then will be the repairs garage as there popping a few more digits on the repair bill!

    *wait for applause

    thanks people!

    i am here all day!
  50. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffchiz View Post
    dont get so emotional lol its your car just because he doesnt like mk1's doesnt
    mean you should get upset lol

    MK1's FTWWWWW
    mk1's FTL!!! lol..
    course she should, be opinion means everything..
    im god haha
  51. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Manchester Posts: 191 mk2 saxo VTS blue
    #51
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RAFkev View Post
    Hmmm

    Maybe it's just a supersprint thing.

    I have straight through magnex and get no popping.

    The guy who mapped my car said he can make it pop by tweaking the map. Can't remember why or how though.
    where did you get your car mapped ?
  52. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #52
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stokesy View Post
    mk1's FTL!!! lol..
    course she should, be opinion means everything..
    im god haha
    lmao not too far up your own arse then
  53. Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198
    #53
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lookinsaxo View Post
    where did you get your car mapped ?
    Andy Hammond aka Luthor1 aka genius behind the predator ecu.
  54. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)
    #54
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffchiz View Post
    lmao not too far up your own arse then
    that should be 'up your perfect arse then ' haha..
    nah i joke!! lol
  55. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Nottm. Posts: 924 Focus ST2 ASBO
    #55
    Standard mani and downpipe and brand new (100miles) standard system, nice burble and a few pops


    not sure of the cars history though, so might have been mapped then (?) and the guys took all the parts off and fitted OEM before selling up
  56. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #56
    4-2-1 raceland, straight through 2.5" pipe to mongoose backbox

    pops and burbles like a motherfucker on the overrun

    also pops when changing 2nd to third at high revs
  57. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Kingswinford, W.Midlands Posts: 124 2002 Furio 1.4
    #57
    Just blow the lambda sensor out of your standard system like I did last week and it pops like a bitch coming down through the revs
  58. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #58
    Well seen as though it was my car ill explain why it doesnt pop, the magnex i had on was a twin box system hence why it wont pop
  59. Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Aberdeen Posts: 2211
    #59
    If you come off the throttle and constantly light tap the throttle, should pop and bang in the powerband, my milltek enjoyed popping, and really want another one!!!
  60. Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 rotherham Posts: 1369 saxo westcoast
    #60
    or just loosen the manifold bolts so oxygen mixes with the fumes as this is what causes them to bang.
  61. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 6476 RB RS 200
    #61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by laberridge View Post
    or just loosen the manifold bolts so oxygen mixes with the fumes as this is what causes them to bang.
    why would anyone do that mate, it'll sound like a bag of shit when on throttle
  62. Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE
    #62
  63. Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 rotherham Posts: 1369 saxo westcoast
    #63
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    why would anyone do that mate, it'll sound like a bag of shit when on throttle
    some people may like there saxo to sound like a fuked tractor